Thanks for the exposure to the FIFA series. I've been a subscriber to the FIFA Series for several years. Though I play on PC, its nowhere near the "NextGen" level of XBox 360 and PS3. I've purchased FIFA the day of release the past few years except this year. If it wasn't for the enhanced Be A Pro & 40% off sale, I wouldn't have bothered with '10 on PC. I have no reason to get a console, but if I did, it would be just to play this game, yes I'm sad.
Its also sad that EA is taking the direction they are with PC. FIFA 07 & 08 had a huge, HUGE general PC community. Since the release of FIFA 09, I think the community virtually disappeared.
As a longtime FIFA player (who left for W11/PES's greener pastures for a period of time) it certainly is. Go take a look at the gameplay feature videos on youtube to get a feel for some of the stuff I'm describing, it's really pretty mindblowing.
It's easy to take the stance "well, yeah, incremental release, but it's still the same game". Hear me now: you simply cannot play any previous FIFA release and feel satisfied after touching this one.
I agree with the PC sentiments. I'd actually picked up the 360 just so I could play sports games. The PC developers really cannot hold a candle to their console counterparts, which is a shame really.
Have forgotten about these 3, have you?
a. AI hardly ever fails to give a header, and all too often aims to plant a header in front of your goalie
b. AI has a 6th sense, knows exactly how you are going to dribble
c. AI world class level (=level 4) is far more difficult than the preceeding level (=level 3). Whereas level 3 will provide easy wins, level 4 will knock you off - unless you're a really skilled player.
These 3 issues partly ruin the gameplay. Why are they there after so many FIFA iterations? To keep us all yearning for yet another one? To make us fools shell out another 40 or so euros next year? I bet.
A) I'd noticed this at first, too, but over time mitigated the issue by taking control of the player in the middle before the cross comes in to reposition him manually.
B) All I can recommend is you practice the "exit" moves of your players, and know who you can and can't beat off the dribble. Obviously, not everyone has the ability to beat defenders. All the same, you're not going to dribble the team in real life, why should you expect to do the same in the game? But I can't agree with you that it knows what I'm going to do before I do it - the defender will move WITH you, sure, but acceleration and ball handling of my player take care of the rest.
C) This is the level I play on, and I'd agree with you there, it most certainly is more difficult. But this has always been the case, world class is (at times) frustratingly difficult (depending on the matchup) but hardly unbeatable. What works at the Pro level won't work at World Class, as I'm sure you've figured out. My best advice would be to know where you're going with the ball before your man even touches it. Touch it into space with the right stick, pass it back, move it around - just kind of actively think about what it is you're trying to do with the ball. I hardly hold on to the ball for more than half a second in most cases. You can't expect to win every game
hey Nights
I agree with you now after playing more intensively.
Although one issue remains, one that hasn't been mentioned yet: AI (most teams , not every team) excessively tries to outflank the other team, up to a degree where it is not realistic football any more.
There's no patch for this on XBOX Live.
The only thing that can be done is change the gameplay sliders (shooting flanking and passing: 100-30-100) for every team separately. So I did and what a hell of a difference.
But basically, what you get in FIFA10 out of the box is not real soccer... You have to change the sliders first.
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Its also sad that EA is taking the direction they are with PC. FIFA 07 & 08 had a huge, HUGE general PC community. Since the release of FIFA 09, I think the community virtually disappeared.
PS. Is that Benzema in a O.Lyon jersey?
It's easy to take the stance "well, yeah, incremental release, but it's still the same game". Hear me now: you simply cannot play any previous FIFA release and feel satisfied after touching this one.
I agree with the PC sentiments. I'd actually picked up the 360 just so I could play sports games. The PC developers really cannot hold a candle to their console counterparts, which is a shame really.
a. AI hardly ever fails to give a header, and all too often aims to plant a header in front of your goalie
b. AI has a 6th sense, knows exactly how you are going to dribble
c. AI world class level (=level 4) is far more difficult than the preceeding level (=level 3). Whereas level 3 will provide easy wins, level 4 will knock you off - unless you're a really skilled player.
These 3 issues partly ruin the gameplay. Why are they there after so many FIFA iterations? To keep us all yearning for yet another one? To make us fools shell out another 40 or so euros next year? I bet.
B) All I can recommend is you practice the "exit" moves of your players, and know who you can and can't beat off the dribble. Obviously, not everyone has the ability to beat defenders. All the same, you're not going to dribble the team in real life, why should you expect to do the same in the game? But I can't agree with you that it knows what I'm going to do before I do it - the defender will move WITH you, sure, but acceleration and ball handling of my player take care of the rest.
C) This is the level I play on, and I'd agree with you there, it most certainly is more difficult. But this has always been the case, world class is (at times) frustratingly difficult (depending on the matchup) but hardly unbeatable. What works at the Pro level won't work at World Class, as I'm sure you've figured out. My best advice would be to know where you're going with the ball before your man even touches it. Touch it into space with the right stick, pass it back, move it around - just kind of actively think about what it is you're trying to do with the ball. I hardly hold on to the ball for more than half a second in most cases. You can't expect to win every game
I agree with you now after playing more intensively.
Although one issue remains, one that hasn't been mentioned yet: AI (most teams , not every team) excessively tries to outflank the other team, up to a degree where it is not realistic football any more.
There's no patch for this on XBOX Live.
The only thing that can be done is change the gameplay sliders (shooting flanking and passing: 100-30-100) for every team separately. So I did and what a hell of a difference.
But basically, what you get in FIFA10 out of the box is not real soccer... You have to change the sliders first.