Potential power consumption might be a little higher than we'd like for a xx30 part, but as far as performance and reliability, being a "crippled" 5870 has no impact. This is essentially aggressive binning and is not much different than what we already see in the rest of the GPU and CPU industry.
^ This. As we said, the Ps and Qs of the architecture are immaterial. Yes, the load consumption is a little high, but that doesn't mean the part is somehow shoddy or not worthy of purchase.
If this is indeed a crippled 5870 would that sway your decision in buying it?
Even if the price is sub $200?
I have a 5870 so not so much in my case, but I have used "crippled" chips in the past and as long as they present a good value and perform for the applications I want to run, I'm all for it.
Like I said, I think $199 is the magic price here, if they are $199 gamers on a budget are going to snap this thing up as soon as it hits the shelf, if its more, they may pinch pennies until they can get a step up, or just wait and see what Nvidia does.
If I'm AMD, my strategy is to strike before Fermi is released, give up just a little bit of my margin to get AMD parts in systems right now, so those users will have far less incentive to consider Nvidia when they do finally get around to releasing a DX11 gamer card. AMD has enjoyed months of high margin's without challenge, I would not be surprised to see them preemptively lower their price across the line a little, and drop the 5830 for $199 which in many gamers mind is the magic barrier for what makes a reasonably priced piece of graphics tech. With crossfire boards and higher quality power supplies as prevelant as they are, some users will eat that up knowing they can buy a $199 card today and crossfire it in a few months for even less than that when AMD does a full line refresh and just as importantly for AMD, get Fermi off the option chart for that gamer.
In today's comparative terms, it looks like you could say the 5830 is about 10% better than a GTX 275, but with an important feature in DX11 readiness. If they price it right gamers that have been waiting for a better price are going to have a hard time not pulling the trigger.
Well, its out, and its $259. Too much in my opinion. It serves no meaningful niche at that price. Thats where the 5850 started at before it got inflated due to lack of alternatives in the enthusiast graphics market.
It performs well from the reviews I have seen, but when you look at other Radeon's, its just not fitting in any place that makes sense to me. The 5850 performs about 25% better for 10% more cash, the 5770 is about 20% less card, but it is priced 40% better.
The 5830 needs to cost a little less to look appealing.
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Even if the price is sub $200?
I have a 5870 so not so much in my case, but I have used "crippled" chips in the past and as long as they present a good value and perform for the applications I want to run, I'm all for it.
Like I said, I think $199 is the magic price here, if they are $199 gamers on a budget are going to snap this thing up as soon as it hits the shelf, if its more, they may pinch pennies until they can get a step up, or just wait and see what Nvidia does.
If I'm AMD, my strategy is to strike before Fermi is released, give up just a little bit of my margin to get AMD parts in systems right now, so those users will have far less incentive to consider Nvidia when they do finally get around to releasing a DX11 gamer card. AMD has enjoyed months of high margin's without challenge, I would not be surprised to see them preemptively lower their price across the line a little, and drop the 5830 for $199 which in many gamers mind is the magic barrier for what makes a reasonably priced piece of graphics tech. With crossfire boards and higher quality power supplies as prevelant as they are, some users will eat that up knowing they can buy a $199 card today and crossfire it in a few months for even less than that when AMD does a full line refresh and just as importantly for AMD, get Fermi off the option chart for that gamer.
In today's comparative terms, it looks like you could say the 5830 is about 10% better than a GTX 275, but with an important feature in DX11 readiness. If they price it right gamers that have been waiting for a better price are going to have a hard time not pulling the trigger.
It performs well from the reviews I have seen, but when you look at other Radeon's, its just not fitting in any place that makes sense to me. The 5850 performs about 25% better for 10% more cash, the 5770 is about 20% less card, but it is priced 40% better.
The 5830 needs to cost a little less to look appealing.