Let mommy and daddy decide with the law if weâ€™re too obsessed with protecting the kids to let them do it at home.
Black Hawk wrote:
There's a flaw in your argument and that is the assumption that all parents pay attention to what their kids play or even care at all. If it's not the government, be it state or federal that regulates it, then who? The church?
Who thinks the ESRB is a pain now? They were the only ones shielding the hobby from this stupidity, and gamers and M rated game developers do nothing but whine and cry about the job the ESRB does
There's a flaw in your argument. If parents arent paying attention, or dont care at all, what's to say a law will do any good. This is a problem that begins and ends in the home...not in the law, or lack thereof.
Cliff I think you have it wrong... The game industry (Each gaming studio) pays for the ESRB as it was and still is the game industries stepping stone to be proactive and create a board to regulate itself. The industry did this to avoid the government stepping in and controlling the video game world. A huge fear in the game industry is that the government will step in and say the ESRB isn't doing enough. If that happened, games will than be even more dumbed down based on a government rating system.
This is the first step of the government doing any sort or oversight into how a state controls sales / rating of games... This can turn into a huge deal for the gaming industry pending the outcome of what the Supreme Court even thinks about this.
Are you arguing that we should sell violent games (and presumably other media) to minors?
Putting aside all the things that are banned from being sold to minors without anything more inconvenient than a proof of age at purchase for adults, it does no side credibility to exaggerate their opponents argument. One is then put in the position of having to backtrack when confronted with his inaccuracies.
Did you three even... read the article?
Alen, nobody says they should sell games to minors. The ESRB is doing enough, it just doesn't require government intervention.
Homes, firstly, it's rIdiculous. Secondly, where did you get the idea that you buying something for your child would become illegal? The illegalities are only to selling games to minors directly, and they're penalties for the stores, not the parents.
Thomas, the ESRB doesn't have any role in lawmaking. They were meant to be a body created so the video game industry could police itself, and they did a fantastic job. This lawsuit is asking the Supreme Court to override the ESRB and create a law. ESRB hasn't made any - it's just a (very good) ratings system that manages to prevent nearly all sales of mature games to minors. Siding against the ESRB means you want the government to pass legislation on it.
I mean Jesus, guys, did you read at all?
I love you, Bobby.
Black Hawk wrote:
It's not really a flaw. Even if the parents don't care their kids still can't legally acquire the game.
A minor can go to a movie theater or a store and watch/buy an R-rated film. There is no law against that. Now, the MPAA has put a rating system in place, and it is followed very judiciously at almost every store, and every movie theater in the nation.
Personally I think the ESRB is one of the most proactive ratings boards out there with their ever changing descriptions on the back of games and on some of the newer games including the descriptions in more than one language, in very easy to read print. Unlike the MPAA which just tells you the movie is rated R and in small print at the bottom of the end of the trailer it shows why it got the rating.
Because it doesn't affect us personally, it's not worth debating? Wow.
It also has more effects than the obvious ones - for instance, many retailers will just stop carrying M-rated games if it becomes a punishable offense since it's more trouble than its worth if they have a dumb employee violate the law.
Wal-Mart already doesn't carry video and audio content with adult ratings (obscene rap, etc); if there's a fine when Timmy gets a copy of GTA4 without his mom, they just won't bother selling it. If big retailers don't sell it, devs start to water down content - because if they can't sell it at Wal-Mart, they can't necessarily sell it at the volumes they want to sell.
Ahem. As I've said a few times, this law is in place not to stop the sale of M or AO video games, it's in place to give parents more power and control over what their child does in their house.
The ESRB stops it. You will not find a major retailer in the United States that will sell an MA game to a minor without an ID or a parental escort.
Perhaps you're arguing from a different cultural vantage point, but games MA games do not readily get sold to minors in the US of A, and not a lick of legislation has ever been needed to get us to that point.