My thoughts on the new Engineer Stuff
Foxy-K
Frostbite Falls
I don't like the idea of using the Wrangler and frontier justice together because then your personal firepower amounts to melee, 3 shotgun shots (likely without very many crits because you want your sentry to be alive.) and a sentry that aims imperfectly. So, the two loadouts I think will be my favorite and second-most favorite respectively are:
Frontier Justice
Pistol
Gunslinger
This allows you to have 150 hp and quickly make dispensable sentries (lots of revenge crits) and support your sentry with your pistol. Your sentry will die often but that's ok because you want to move it to be sneaky and you want revenge crits. This is the awesome battle/ninja engie layout.
Shotgun
Wrangler
The Southern Hospitality
The Wrangler lets you have a sentry-sniper and with a dispenser you have a dangerous little base. However, the sentry's aim is imperfect. I use the regular shotgun to provide plenty of personal firepower (6 shots) which I feel is necessary with not having a pistol. In addition, you can't really take advantage of revenge crits with a sentry that has a shield around it. The southern hospitality gives spies something to think about, although if there were tons of pyros I'd use the wrench I think.
So, those are the two loadouts I think I'll be using, especially the first one. Thoughts?
Frontier Justice
Pistol
Gunslinger
This allows you to have 150 hp and quickly make dispensable sentries (lots of revenge crits) and support your sentry with your pistol. Your sentry will die often but that's ok because you want to move it to be sneaky and you want revenge crits. This is the awesome battle/ninja engie layout.
Shotgun
Wrangler
The Southern Hospitality
The Wrangler lets you have a sentry-sniper and with a dispenser you have a dangerous little base. However, the sentry's aim is imperfect. I use the regular shotgun to provide plenty of personal firepower (6 shots) which I feel is necessary with not having a pistol. In addition, you can't really take advantage of revenge crits with a sentry that has a shield around it. The southern hospitality gives spies something to think about, although if there were tons of pyros I'd use the wrench I think.
So, those are the two loadouts I think I'll be using, especially the first one. Thoughts?
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I think it should also pair nicely with the Gunslinger, but you really need to be doing the ninja engie thing with it... lately all I've been seeing is people dropping mini sentries in normal defensive positions, which seems pointless. It seems to me you want to be dropping them behind enemy lines or in unexpected places, to harass them and/or create diversions while you run up behind and punch them or drop a tele exit in a sneaky place. And then, like you said, with any luck you'll be getting one or two revenge crits on a regular basis while you're running around causing havok. If you're going to go that route, you're basically forgoing a real sentry gun in favor of a distraction or speed bump, in which case you really need to be sure you're causing a lot of trouble in other ways.
And I noticed something today that I may as well post here because I can't be bothered to start a thread about it. With the Wrangler, Medics ubering someone can no longer count on being able to absorb the pushback on the sentry guns by running around in front of their partner. I did this today, ubered a heavy and ran in to three sentries. Figured we'd at least get two of them easily. Did my thing, ran up to get the sentry's attention, and couldn't figure out why I wasn't having my movement impeded but my heavy was way back where we started. Then I saw two laser beams aimed at the heavy, and realized the engies were being smart (gasp!) and aiming at him and not me. He couldn't get close enough to really dish out the damage and we barely got one gun down. Just another strategic change to keep in mind with this update, and one that I hadn't thought of until it came up.
The Wrangler is pretty amazing in the old role of the engineer (area denial) since you can have either a regular sentry or one that you aim.
Fixed.
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