I have not gone blu-ray simply because I see no value in the format. For mass data storage I have better options, and I still see blu-ray as this kind of transitional tech that will likely die in just a few years when the broadband pipes get fat enough. Down with optical disks! Delivered content on demand is the future.
I have not gone blu-ray simply because I see no value in the format. For mass data storage I have better options, and I still see blu-ray as this kind of transitional tech that will likely die in just a few years when the broadband pipes get fat enough. Down with optical disks! Delivered content on demand is the future.
I disagree with the few years argument. ISPs just aren't that interested in improving user speeds to the point of supporting 1080p+ streams. I'm betting on 5+ years before they can be bothered to do so.
Besides, I have a large television and I can tell the difference between Blu-ray and upscaled DVD. That difference bothers me and detracts from my movie experience. I understand that most people either can't tell the difference or just don't care (my wife falls under both of those). For those folks, waiting for the next new thing is fine.
I want the resolution AND the physical media, therefore I buy Blu-ray.
Tech moves on, so do I, when it's warranted. There's a number of reasons that it's not in this case. Sure, when the drives finally die, I'll replace them with SATA drives... but there's not enough justification to replace a fully functional DVD drive just so I can change cables. Especially when a board with an IDE port is no more costly than one without.
people still buy movies? like on a disc? (and no I am not promoting piracy, there are a million+one ways to get 720/1080p movies legally)
DEATH TO LEGACY!
Yes, I buy movies on Blu-ray that I actually want to watch multiple times. Otherwise I rent...but starting today I'm getting Netflix with the Blu-ray option now that the PS3 doesn't require a disc.
Yes, I buy movies on Blu-ray that I actually want to watch multiple times. Otherwise I rent...but starting today I'm getting Netflix with the Blu-ray option now that the PS3 doesn't require a disc.
and that $16 could buy me 3 used DVDs (or 1-2 new ones, depending on the DVD and where I buy it from). Why fix what isn't broke? There is NO BENEFIT to replacing an IDE DVD drive with a SATA DVD drive. They're not any faster. They're not any better. They're the exact same thing but with a different connector. You're just upgrading to upgrade. If you don't care about spending money to upgrade for no practical reason, that's fine by me, you can waste your money all you want, it doesn't hurt me any. I will take that money and put it toward something I could actually use though. For the 2 drives in my system, that's 32 dollars closer to a PS3 (or some other device that I want, that I don't already own).
and that $16 could buy me 3 used DVDs (or 1-2 new ones, depending on the DVD and where I buy it from). Why fix what isn't broke? There is NO BENEFIT to replacing an IDE DVD drive with a SATA DVD drive. They're not any faster. They're not any better. They're the exact same thing but with a different connector. You're just upgrading to upgrade. If you don't care about spending money to upgrade for no practical reason, that's fine by me, you can waste your money all you want, it doesn't hurt me any. I will take that money and put it toward something I could actually use though. For the 2 drives in my system, that's 32 dollars closer to a PS3 (or some other device that I want, that I don't already own).
why you wasting money on DVDs, Blu-ray is the standard?
and I didn't read any of your rant beyond the first line because then it became legacy
Because I don't have a Blu-ray player at this point nor do I have a desire to buy one. When I get around to buying a PS3, then I'll consider paying the premium for Blu-ray, though I'm dubious that Blu-ray will look noticeably better on a 32" screen even though it is 1080p. Frankly, I haven't noticed any issues with DVDs played in my HD up converting DVD player.
@Thrax - airflow is a moot point, I have a rounded cable that isn't going to obstruct airflow any appreciable amount.
Cable management - once again, rounded cable and 1 cable instead of 2. Cable management isn't an issue.
Disc-to-disc copying isn't something that I ever do.
Care to try again? You still haven't given me a single good reason that I should spend money to replace a fully functional drive apart from "because it's not the latest and greatest cable".
Care to try again? You still haven't given me a single good reason that I should spend money to replace a fully functional drive apart from "because it's not the latest and greatest cable".
I have not gone blu-ray simply because I see no value in the format. For mass data storage I have better options, and I still see blu-ray as this kind of transitional tech that will likely die in just a few years when the broadband pipes get fat enough. Down with optical disks! Delivered content on demand is the future.
This^ = truth.
For movie viewing, BR is awesome no doubt but IMHO useless for PCs.
Bluray will be around for years to come. Sure, it hasn't probably been quite as adopted on the PC side of things yet as traditional CD and DVD discs were. But, give it time. Once drives are as much as current DVD burners and media is as cheap as a stack of DVDs, PC users will be using it as a cheap form of backup and file sharing. When you can get 25 gigs on a .25 cent disc with a $20-30 drive, it will be embraced by a lot of people.
Not to mention having a means to archive and view your HD home movies... I have hours and hours of footage taken with my HD camcorder. I don't want to limit myself to low res DVD discs for it. Most people are in the process of upgrading all their home entertainment equipment (if they haven't already). Bluray is part of that picture.
I do agree that when highspeed internet (I am talking 20+ mb connections) are available to most of the nation, disc based movies will become obsolete. Until then, though (and it will be quite a while) the need for high density storage discs will be high. My DSL provider won't give me anything higher than 3 mb and I am 5 minutes from Minneapolis.
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BD-R $99.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136181
How much more reasonable does it have to get?
I have not gone blu-ray simply because I see no value in the format. For mass data storage I have better options, and I still see blu-ray as this kind of transitional tech that will likely die in just a few years when the broadband pipes get fat enough. Down with optical disks! Delivered content on demand is the future.
I... agree... with...... Cliff....
Never thought I would say that.
Besides, I have a large television and I can tell the difference between Blu-ray and upscaled DVD. That difference bothers me and detracts from my movie experience. I understand that most people either can't tell the difference or just don't care (my wife falls under both of those). For those folks, waiting for the next new thing is fine.
I want the resolution AND the physical media, therefore I buy Blu-ray.
a SATA DVD drive is $16....
people still buy movies? like on a disc?
DEATH TO LEGACY!
The diskless interface is a bit janky.
and that $16 could buy me 3 used DVDs (or 1-2 new ones, depending on the DVD and where I buy it from). Why fix what isn't broke? There is NO BENEFIT to replacing an IDE DVD drive with a SATA DVD drive. They're not any faster. They're not any better. They're the exact same thing but with a different connector. You're just upgrading to upgrade. If you don't care about spending money to upgrade for no practical reason, that's fine by me, you can waste your money all you want, it doesn't hurt me any. I will take that money and put it toward something I could actually use though. For the 2 drives in my system, that's 32 dollars closer to a PS3 (or some other device that I want, that I don't already own).
why you wasting money on DVDs, Blu-ray is the standard?
and I didn't read any of your rant beyond the first line because then it became legacy
@Thrax - airflow is a moot point, I have a rounded cable that isn't going to obstruct airflow any appreciable amount.
Cable management - once again, rounded cable and 1 cable instead of 2. Cable management isn't an issue.
Disc-to-disc copying isn't something that I ever do.
Care to try again? You still haven't given me a single good reason that I should spend money to replace a fully functional drive apart from "because it's not the latest and greatest cable".
You win!
oh noes... look how horridly cluttered that one cable is. o_O it's clearly going to completely cut off air flow. HERPDERP
So mad breh~
U the ones mad bout legacy ports. I gots mah legacy ports.
$19.99 mostly cuz i don't need it. (pssst $99.99 is not even close to reasonable)
This^ = truth.
For movie viewing, BR is awesome no doubt but IMHO useless for PCs.
Not to mention having a means to archive and view your HD home movies... I have hours and hours of footage taken with my HD camcorder. I don't want to limit myself to low res DVD discs for it. Most people are in the process of upgrading all their home entertainment equipment (if they haven't already). Bluray is part of that picture.
I do agree that when highspeed internet (I am talking 20+ mb connections) are available to most of the nation, disc based movies will become obsolete. Until then, though (and it will be quite a while) the need for high density storage discs will be high. My DSL provider won't give me anything higher than 3 mb and I am 5 minutes from Minneapolis.