Need to get around a wirless router and add another

ss4vegitass4vegita
edited January 2011 in Science & Tech
Hello. I need to figuer out how to get around one wirless roughter to hook up another. The problem is on friday night i game with friends over at another friend house. His brother doesnt want us on the wirless net work with laptop so he doesnt give us the code and he pays for the Internet. We game in the basment the router on the first floor, my friend has a line that goes to the roughter from the basment were his pc is. I was wondering if i put a two way spliter in at the modem and run one line to his router and run the other to the basment and hook up another wirless router would that work?

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  • TushonTushon I'm scared, Coach Alexandria, VA Icrontian
    edited January 2011
    Yes, actually. You would need to turn off the routing functions of your newer router (assuming you need wireless), so that it acts like an access point rather than a router. Your friends brother shouldn't be a dick about games, maybe if you were torrenting it would be a different story. You should also not broadcast the SSID of your new router, since it would be rather obvious to the older brother.
  • kryystkryyst Ontario, Canada
    edited January 2011
    Just clarifying on Tushon's post. You wouldn't split the network cable. Unlike a phone line splitter there's no such thing as a network splitter.

    So what you would do is run the cable going to your friends computer into another wireless router. Set the router to connect to the internet as dhcp. Then connect your friends computer to it. Then you can connect your computer to this new router's wifi. It's ridiculously simple and your friends brother wouldn't be able to see your device at all.
  • ss4vegitass4vegita
    edited January 2011
    thank u i will give this a try. Just to make sure, Take the new router and set it to run as dhcp, then plug the ethernet from the first router into the second router main ethernet point like would be normaly coming from a modem.
  • kryystkryyst Ontario, Canada
    edited January 2011
    Yep, that's it.
  • D3nnisD3nnis
    edited January 2011
    I have what I believe is a similar problem. I volunteer at a convalescent hospital. It has a wired network and internet access. I would like to make the internet accessible to the patients, through an independent computer. If I connect the splitter to the modem and then run one ethernet cable to the network modem and the other cable directly to the independent computer, with the network and the independent computer have internet access? If so, will the independent computer be able to see the network (which would be a security problem)?
  • D3nnisD3nnis
    edited January 2011
    Re-reading the above advice. If I connect the splitter at the modem, run one cable to the network router and the second cable to another wireless router, can I provide wireless access to the residents without giving them access to the computers on the wired network?
  • kryystkryyst Ontario, Canada
    edited January 2011
    I would suggest that if you are a VOLUNTEER you get permission from the people that are running the place before you going hacking their network. I also would suggest in not touching their network unless you actually understand all the components involved in maintaining it.
  • TushonTushon I'm scared, Coach Alexandria, VA Icrontian
    edited January 2011
    kryyst wrote:
    Unlike a phone line splitter there's no such thing as a network splitter.

    First, get permission. Second, you would either have to find an empty network port or get permission to add a simple switch (which does not raise security concerns) between an existing port and computer so that you can connect your computer also. If the hospital has its own network (which it should), the word you are using (modem) is not correct. Modems do not sit on end points in networks. You would just need to plug straight into the network.

    As for security concerns of putting an un-managed computer on the network, the network admins could put it into a DMZ, which would isolate it from the network, while providing internet access. This would bring up security issues on the computer itself, namely that it is internet-facing. A good, aggressive firewall and some antivirus should be able to handle it. As always, I recommend Firefox w/ Adblock Plus for browsing, especially in a situation like that. You may also want to look into creating a "Steady State" which would sort of negate the need for antivirus (windows 7 only, I believe ... before there was a free tool, though there are excellent paid products also). There would be minimal risk to the network, and none to other workstations.

    Your question about providing wireless access rests on the willingness of the network administrators to allow this, as it would be significantly more involved on their end (not "hard", just more involved).
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