Table not collapsing....

EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
edited February 2004 in Internet & Media
Ok, I know XHTML isn't really a programming language, but it's close enough.

Trying to rewrite my site so that it stops growing at a certain size, and it is all fine, apart from the news on the front page. For some reason, this small table (which is used to format the news and image etc) isn't collapsing, causing the page to be stock at 1250px width. It breaks down in Mozilla but no IE.

The Code is-
[php]<table border=\"0\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse;\">
<tr>
<td style=\"border-collapse: collapse; background-image: url('http://atomnet.co.uk/dl?ss=newsbar')\"><div class=\"newstitle\">$Date -::- $Title</div></td>
<td align=\"right\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse; background-image: url('http://atomnet.co.uk/dl?ss=newsbar')\"><div class=\"newstitle\">$Poster</div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width=\"100%\" colspan=\"2\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse;\">
<img style=\"Margin-top: 15px; Margin-bottom: 8px; Margin-right: 13px; Margin-left: 7px; BORDER-RIGHT: #cccccc 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #cccccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #cccccc 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #cccccc 1px solid\"
height=\"75\" hspace=\"0\" src=\"/dl?newsi=newsthumb$id\" width=\"85\" border=\"0\" align=\"left\" alt=\"$Title\" />
<div style=\"color: #DCDCDC; font: 8pt Verdana; margin: 2px 0px 0px 14px;\">$NewsBody</div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style=\"border-collapse: collapse;\"></td>
<td align=\"right\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse;\"><a href=\"#Top\"><img style=\"border: 1px solid #110055;\" src=\"/dl?newsi=top\" alt=\"Back to Top\" /></a></td>
</tr>
</table>[/php]

Any idea what I am missing? As the rest of the page breaks down fine..... just not this.

Comments

  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    IE does not usually use the collapse CSS2 and XHTML code functions to collapse, it likes static tables.

    ASP live gens tables in server, what is fed is a static output from an ASP function set.

    For IE, server gets to calc table, and then feed a static result, or invoke active-X client side (and feed it first if special function set). Microsoft took the route of making this a server function. Server calcs page, then feeds a static table. Table is calced based on client request input.

    So, the collapse is not supported in IE as it stands now. That is bottom line.

    That is also why sites that truely want to have apparent collapses instead regen table for IE clients and feed it as a static result. IE can regen areas based on layering,but Netscape does not layer well, so in many cases either a choice is made to not support IE and support mozilla type or to branch how server gens and feeds active live data by browser. They discriminate by browser detection and then alternate response based on browser, and most folks do not grok this well.

    I know, this stinks, but it is reality.... This site works by gening static resends for end to browser on client, for IE browsers or those pretending to be such like Opera-- essentially PHP lets a teble be appended to on server, and then browser in essence repaints the appended result as a static thing if it emulates IE real well. I get a different look and feel out of Opera than in IE, and different feel in Windows in Opera as to fine spacing and fine actions than I do in Opera in Linux. Overall behavior as above is why.

    John D.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    Collapse has ALWAYS worked in IE so I see no reason why it would decide to stop now.
    You seem to be missing the point. Every other table on the page breaks down, just not that small one on the news page.

    Right, open these two pages in IE -
    http://atomnet.co.uk
    and
    http://atomnet.co.uk/amiga/?p=engine&letter=p

    Both of those are full of tables. Page B collapses perfectly, where are page A, doesn't (try resizing the browser to about 800px wide or so).
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    View this message as source:

    Note your table cell is 820 pixels wide literally, then you continue with tables in cells stated as 100% width. 100% of 820 is 820. Change the top 820 to 100% and 100% of center remaining space will be used to calc width.
    [php]
    <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
    <tr>
    <td valign="top" width="80%" style=
    "background: url('/ss/backdropblue.gif'); padding-left: 2px; padding-right: 2px; Border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">
    <center><br />
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#B0B0B0"><a id='Top'>Welcome to
    the Atomic Cabbage Network (Atomnet). Facilities are to the
    right.</a><br />
    Page is best viewed at</font> <font face="Arial" size="1" color=
    "#FFA500">1024-768@32bit</font> <font face="Arial" size="1" color=
    "#B0B0B0">using Mozilla or compatable<br />
    and while you are here it would be nice if you would sign the
    <a href="/guestbook">guestbook</a> to say you visited,
    thanks<br /></font> <img src="/dl?ss=spacer" height="10" alt=
    "Spacer" /></center>
    <br /></td></tr></table>]
    [/php]

    Do you really want a table inside a CELL, which is what not closing cell pair will give and force the top cell explicit width def to be in use for any tables inside it.

    Center table not width collapsing as the top cell is fixed width and you tabled inside it.


    ----Edited by Necropolis_uk
    Ageek I have added PHP tags as it screws the layout of the page up.
    End Edit


    -- Editted by Ageek--
    Now that I know the syntax for a php square bracket tag, I will.... I know HTML but not php.... Looked at source in editor here to see what syntax was. SORRY!
    End Edit--
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    Ageek: Use PHP code square brackets as you are destroying the page.
    Note your table cell is 820 pixels wide literally, then you continue with tables in cells stated as 100% width. 100% of 820 is 820. Change the top 820 to 100% and 100% of center remaining space will be used to calc width.

    That doesn't matter. The size is the tables MAXIMUM size. When collapse is specified, it will shrink down if it needs to. Also, both pages specify that the same way and it is still only the other than fails.

    I have already broken this down and the table I pasted IS the problem. Stop trying to look for other issues as there aren't any. If I remove that block of code that I pasted initially, it all breaks down fine. With it in, the page is locked.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    Still does it (this is the page you attached) - http://atomnet.co.uk/tidy.htm
    As I already stated, ALL the pages work, EXCEPT the first page and they ALL specify 820px.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    Forum thread page fixed, look at my table quote reply with literal html displayed again. I simply did a cell, record, and table close.

    I am on the XP box, posting from within IE.

    John.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    Just put it in [ php ] quotes else it makes no sense. All it is is a complete mess and viewing it as source doesn't help as it has all been mangled anyway.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    As you seem the be missing the point entirely and going on a wild goose chase, here is the full skeleton template. Notice that THIS is what contains the 820px and ALL THE OTHER PAGES WORK FINE including ones with tables in them and ones with tables that specify 100% width.

    [php]<!DOCTYPE html
    PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
    "DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

    <html>
    <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-gb" />
    <link rel="SHORTCUT ICON" href="http://atomnet.co.uk/favicon.ico&quot; />
    <meta http-equiv="Keywords" content="Atomic, Cabbage, AtomicCabbage, Atomic Cabbage, Atomnet, Amiga, ADF, Enverex, NightShade737" />
    <title>:: Atomic Cabbage :: The scroll, The Scroll, The Buttons, The Buttons, scrolling so smooth like the butter on the muffins.</title>
    <link rel="stylesheet" href="/fullpagesettings.css" type="text/css" />
    </head>

    <?php define("ac", '/usr/http/ac/'); ?>
    <body>

    <table align="center" border="0" style="border-collapse: collapse;">
    <tr>
    <td colspan="80" height="80" style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">

    <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; Border: 1px solid #000;" bgcolor="#000000" width="100%"><tr><td>
    <a href="http://atomnet.co.uk&quot; target="_top"><img src="http://atomnet.co.uk/dl?ss=mainlogo.jpg&quot; alt="Atomic Cabbage Network Logo" border="0" /></a></td><td>
    <img border="0" src="http://atomnet.co.uk/dl?ss=sarc.jpg&quot; align="right" alt="Free of charge..." /></td></tr></table>


    </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td height="6">
    </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td valign="top">
    <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
    <tr>
    <td valign="top" style="border-collapse: collapse; Border: 1px solid #000; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; background-image: url('/ss/backdropblue.gif');">

    <script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
    function openpopup(url,param){var page = window.open(url,'_blank',param);}
    </script>

    <?php
    if(isset($_POST)){

    $name = $_POST;
    $text = $_POST;

    if($text != 'Type your blog here and then press submit! Max: 90 Chars' && $text != '' && $name != '' && $name != 'Name')
    {
    mysql_connect('localhost');
    @mysql_select_db('site');

    $query="INSERT INTO miniblog (
    name,
    text)
    VALUES(
    '".$name."',
    '".$text."')";

    mysql_query($query);
    };}
    ?>
    <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-right: -1px;">
    <tr>
    <td align="left" valign="top" width="136">

    <table border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: 1px solid #000" cellpadding="0">
    <tr>
    <td bgcolor="#00002F" height="15">
    <b><font face="Arial" color="#FF6600" size="2">S</font><font face="Arial" color="#FF6600" size="1">ectors:-</font></b>
    </td>
    </tr>
    </table>

    <table border="1" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="border-collapse: collapse; background-image: url('/ss/blueback2.gif'); border: 1px solid #000" cellpadding="0">
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="/index.php">
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">- HOME</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="/amiga/">
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">- AMIGA</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="/?p=reviews">
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">- REVIEWS</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="/?p=guides">
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">- GUIDES</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="/protection/">
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">- PROTECTION</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    </table>

    <?php include("exnav.inc") ?>

    <table border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: 1px solid #000" cellpadding="0">
    <tr>
    <td bgcolor="#00002F" height="15">
    <b><font face="Arial" color="#FF6600" size="2">C</font><font face="Arial" color="#FF6600" size="1">ommunity:-</font></b></td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    <table border="1" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="border-collapse: collapse; background-image: url('/ss/greyback.gif'); border: 1px solid #000" cellpadding="0">
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="irc://irc.atomnet.co.uk/ac">
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">- IRC (Chatroom)</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="javascript:openpopup('/guestbook/','height=600, width=800,location=no,directories=no,status=no,menubar=no,toolbar=no,resizable=no')">
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">- GUESTBOOK</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="http://forum.atomnet.co.uk"&gt;
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">- FORUM</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    <br />
    <table border="1" cellspacing="0" width="100%" bgcolor="#00002F" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: 1px solid #000" cellpadding="0">
    <tr>
    <td height="15">
    <b><font face="Arial" color="#FF6600" size="2">V</font><font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FF6600">isitor Blog:-</font></b>
    </td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background-image:url('/ss/blueback.gif');"><tr><td align="center">
    <?php $self = $_SERVER; echo "<form method=\"post\" action=\"$self\">"; ?>
    <input class="textbox" maxlength="24" type="text" name="name" value="Name" onfocus="if(this.value=='Name'){this.value='';}" onblur="if(this.value==''){this.value='Name';}" /><br />
    <textarea class="textarea" rows="5" cols="4" name="text" onfocus="if(this.value=='Type your blog here and then press submit! Max: 90 Chars'){this.value='';}" onblur="if(this.value==''){this.value='Type your blog here and then press submit! Max: 90 Chars';}">Type your blog here and then press submit! Max: 90 Chars</textarea><br />
    <center><input class="button" type="submit" value="Submit" name="submit" /> 
    <input class="button" type="reset" value="Clear" name="reset" /></center></form></td></tr>
    <tr><td style="border-top: 1px SOLID #000; border-bottom: 1px SOLID #000; background-image:url('/ss/blueback2.gif');">

    <?php
    mysql_connect('127.0.0.1');
    mysql_select_db("site");
    $SQL ="SELECT * FROM `miniblog` ORDER BY 'id' DESC LIMIT 7";
    $Result=mysql_query($SQL);
    $SQL_Result=mysql_db_query('site', $SQL);
    $Rows=mysql_num_rows($SQL_Result);
    for ($a=0; $a < $Rows; $a++)
    {
    $Array = mysql_fetch_array($Result);
    $name = ucwords($Array);
    $text = $Array;

    $text = str_replace(':)', '<img src="/ss/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" />', $text);
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    $text = str_replace('; )', '<img src="/ss/smilies/wink.gif" alt="Wink" />', $text);
    $text = str_replace('>(', '<img src="/ss/smilies/mad.gif" alt="Mad" />', $text);
    $text = str_replace(';[', '<img src="/ss/smilies/uttersillyness.gif" alt="Utter Silliness" />', $text);
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    $text = str_replace('^_^', '<img src="/ss/smilies/icon_smile_sleepy.gif" alt="KeKeKe" />', $text);

    echo "<div class=\"normbodtb\"><img src=\"/ss/smilies/icons/attention.gif\" alt=\"Note\" /> <strong>$name</strong><br />
    $text<br /><img src=\"/ss/spacer.gif\" alt=\"Spacer\" height=\"5\" /><br /></div>";};
    mysql_close(mysql_connect('127.0.0.1'));
    ?>
    </td></tr></table>
    <br />
    </td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    </td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    </td>

    <td width="6">
    </td>

    <td valign="top">
    <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse;">
    <tr>
    <td valign="top" width="820" style="background: url('/ss/backdropblue.gif'); padding-left: 2px; padding-right: 2px; Border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">


    <?php
    if ( !isset($_GET) ){ $p = "home";}
    else { $p = $_GET; } if (!file_exists($p.".php")) $p = ac."ss/error/error"; include($p.".php"); ?>

    <br />
    </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td height="8">
    </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="background: url('/ss/whitepaper.jpg'); border: 1px solid #000;">
    <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse">
    <tr>
    <td align="center" width="125">
    <?php
    $fp=fopen(ac."php/counter/acc.txt","r");
    $count=fgets($fp,1024);
    fclose($fp);
    $fw=fopen(ac."php/counter/acc.txt","w");
    $cnew=$count+1;
    $countnew=fputs($fw,$count+1);
    echo "<b>..:|$cnew|:..</b>";
    fclose($fw);
    ?>

    </td>
    <td align="left">
    <font size="1" color="#000080" face="Arial">All Pages & Images Copyright © Their Respective Owners unless
    otherwise stated. <br />All other images copyright ACSoft 2003</font></td>
    <td width="180" colspan="2" align="right" height="42"><img style="margin-left: 7px; margin-top: 2px" src="http://www.w3.org/Icons/valid-xhtml10&quot; alt="Valid XHTML 1.0!" /><img style="margin-right: -3px;" src="http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/images/vcss&quot; alt="Valid CSSv2" />
    </td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    </td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    </td>

    <td width="6">
    </td>


    <td valign="top">
    <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
    <tr>
    <td valign="top" width="131" style="background-image: url('/ss/backdropblue.gif'); border-collapse: collapse; Border: 1px solid #000; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">

    <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse">
    <tr>
    <td align="left" valign="top">
    <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse">
    <tr>
    <td align="left" valign="top" width="132">

    <table border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" bgcolor="#660066" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: 1px solid #000" cellpadding="0">
    <tr>
    <td bgcolor="#00002F" height="19">
    <b><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#FF6600">R</font><font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FF6600">andom Funneh:-</font></b></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td bgcolor="#273050">
    <?php
    mysql_connect('127.0.0.1');
    mysql_select_db("site");
    $SQL ="SELECT * FROM `toprightimg` ORDER BY RAND() LIMIT 0,1";
    $Result=mysql_query($SQL);
    $Array = mysql_fetch_array($Result);
    $id=$Array;
    $name=$Array;
    echo "<img style=\"border-bottom: 1px #000 solid; border-top: 1px #000 solid\" width=\"130px\" src=\"/ss/toprightimg/$id\" alt=\"$name\" />";
    mysql_close(mysql_connect('127.0.0.1'));
    ?>
    </td>
    </tr>
    </table>

    <br />
    <table border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="border-collapse: collapse; background-image: url('/ss/purpleback.gif'); border: 1px solid #000" cellpadding="0">
    <tr>
    <td bgcolor="#00002F" height="15">
    <b><font face="arial" size="2" color="#FF6600">Q</font><font face="arial" size="1" color="#FF6600">uote of The Day:-</font></b></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td>

    <?php
    mysql_connect('127.0.0.1');
    mysql_select_db("site");
    $SQL ="SELECT Quote FROM `qotd` ORDER BY RAND() LIMIT 0,1";
    $Result=mysql_query($SQL);
    $Array = mysql_fetch_array($Result);
    $Quote=$Array;
    echo "<center><div class=\"quote\">$Quote</div></center>";
    mysql_close(mysql_connect('127.0.0.1'));
    ?>

    </td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    <br />
    <table border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" bgcolor="#660066" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: 1px solid #000" cellpadding="0">
    <tr>
    <td bgcolor="#00002F" height="15">
    <b><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#FF6600">W</font><font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FF6600">ebmail:-</font></b></td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    </td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    <table border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: 1px solid #000; background-image: url('/ss/greenback.gif')" cellpadding="0">
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="http://mail.atomnet.co.uk"&gt;
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">- WEBMAIL LOGIN</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="">
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">- SECURE LOGIN</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="/?p=WebMailInfo">
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">- WEBMAIL INFO</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="http://status.atomnet.co.uk"&gt;
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">- SERVER INFO</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">- SERVER STATS</font></td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    <br />

    <table border="1" cellspacing="0" width="100%" bgcolor="#660066" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: 1px solid #000" cellpadding="0">
    <tr>
    <td bgcolor="#00002F" height="15">
    <b>
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    </tr>
    </table>
    <table border="1" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: 1px solid #000; background-image: url('/ss/blueback.gif')" cellpadding="0" >
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="ftp://Free:Loader@atomnet.co.uk"&gt;
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">- ACCESS</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="ftp://login@atomnet.co.uk"&gt;
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">- LOGIN</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="/?p=FTPInfo">
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">- INFO</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="/?p=FTPBans">
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">- BANS</font></a></td>
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    <td>
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    </tr>
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    <table border="1" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: 1px solid #000; background-image: url('/ss/redback.jpg')" cellpadding="0" >
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">-
    </font>
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="/?p=RadioInfo">
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">INFORMATION</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">-
    </font>
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="http://atomnet.co.uk:8000"&gt;
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">STREAM INFO</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style="border: 1px solid #000">
    <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">-
    </font>
    <a style="text-decoration: none" href="http://atomnet.co.uk:8000/listen.pls"><font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FFFFFF">TUNE-IN!</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    <br />
    <table border="1" cellspacing="0" width="100%" bgcolor="#00002F" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: 1px solid #000" cellpadding="0">
    <tr>
    <td width="128" height="15">
    <b><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#FF6600">A</font><font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FF6600">C Hosted Sites:-</font></b></td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    <table border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: 1px solid #000" width="100%">
    <tr>
    <td bgcolor="#063535" align="center" height="25px">
    <a href="http://obsidian.atomnet.co.uk"><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#FFFFFF">.:: Obsidian ::.</font></a></td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    </td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    <br />
    <table border="1" cellspacing="0" width="100%" bgcolor="#00002F" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: 1px solid #000" cellpadding="0">
    <tr>
    <td>
    <b><font face="Arial" color="#FF6600" size="2">S</font><font face="Arial" size="1" color="#FF6600">ite Tally:-</font></b></td>
    </tr>
    </table>

    <?php
    // Amiga-Links Count
    mysql_connect('localhost');
    mysql_select_db("amigagames");
    $SQL ="SELECT * FROM `links`";
    $SQL_Result=mysql_db_query('amigagames', $SQL);
    $amigalinks=mysql_num_rows($SQL_Result);

    // Amiga-Games Count
    mysql_connect('localhost');
    mysql_select_db("amigagames");
    $SQL ="SELECT * FROM `games`";
    $SQL_Result=mysql_db_query('amigagames', $SQL);
    $amigagames=mysql_num_rows($SQL_Result);

    // Comedy Store Count
    mysql_connect('localhost');
    mysql_select_db("site");
    $SQL ="SELECT * FROM `comedystore`";
    $SQL_Result=mysql_db_query('site', $SQL);
    $comedystore=mysql_num_rows($SQL_Result);

    // Joke Count
    mysql_connect('localhost');
    mysql_select_db("site");
    $SQL ="SELECT * FROM `longjokes`";
    $SQL_Result=mysql_db_query('site', $SQL);
    $jokes=mysql_num_rows($SQL_Result);

    // Guides Count
    mysql_connect('localhost');
    mysql_select_db("site");
    $SQL ="SELECT * FROM `guides`";
    $SQL_Result=mysql_db_query('site', $SQL);
    $guides=mysql_num_rows($SQL_Result);

    // Review Count
    mysql_connect('localhost');
    mysql_select_db("site");
    $SQL ="SELECT * FROM `reviews`";
    $SQL_Result=mysql_db_query('site', $SQL);
    $reviews=mysql_num_rows($SQL_Result);

    echo " <table border=\"1\" cellspacing=\"0\" width=\"100%\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse; border: 1px solid #000; background-image: url('/ss/purpleback.gif')\" cellpadding=\"0\" >
    <tr>
    <td style=\"border: 1px solid #000\">
    <font face=\"Arial\" size=\"1\" color=\"#FFFFFF\">-
    </font>
    <font face=\"Arial\" size=\"1\" color=\"#FFFFFF\">$amigagames Amiga Games</font></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style=\"border: 1px solid #000\">
    <font face=\"Arial\" size=\"1\" color=\"#FFFFFF\">-
    </font>
    <font face=\"Arial\" size=\"1\" color=\"#FFFFFF\">$amigalinks Amiga Links</font></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style=\"border: 1px solid #000\">
    <font face=\"Arial\" size=\"1\" color=\"#FFFFFF\">-
    </font>
    <font face=\"Arial\" size=\"1\" color=\"#FFFFFF\">$comedystore Comedy Store clips</font></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style=\"border: 1px solid #000\">
    <font face=\"Arial\" size=\"1\" color=\"#FFFFFF\">-
    </font>
    <font face=\"Arial\" size=\"1\" color=\"#FFFFFF\">$jokes Jokes</font></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style=\"border: 1px solid #000\">
    <font face=\"Arial\" size=\"1\" color=\"#FFFFFF\">-
    </font>
    <font face=\"Arial\" size=\"1\" color=\"#FFFFFF\">$guides Guides</font></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td style=\"border: 1px solid #000\">
    <font face=\"Arial\" size=\"1\" color=\"#FFFFFF\">-
    </font>
    <font face=\"Arial\" size=\"1\" color=\"#FFFFFF\">$reviews Reviews</font></td>
    </tr>
    </table>";
    ?>
    <br />

    </td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    </td>
    </tr>
    </table>

    </body>
    </html>[/php]

    It is NOTHING to do with this code, it is ONLY the small piece that I pasted. The piece that you keep quoting has no relevance what-so-ever.
  • ShortyShorty Manchester, UK Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    Cleaned up a stray < table > tag.

    Please, when posting HTML, can you encase all instances inside the PHP tags.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    Shorty wrote:
    Cleaned up a stray < table > tag.

    Please, when posting HTML, can you encase all instances inside the PHP tags.

    [php]Sorry, now that I know what the php tag does and syntax of how to use it, will do so.[/php]

    John D.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    Ageek wrote:
    [php]Sorry, now that I know what the php tag does and syntax of how to use it, will do so.[/php]

    John D.

    It's not like I told you 3 times or anything.

    Now that I can see your post Ageek, it makes even less sense. You are ending the entire main page where the news is, directly before the news even starts. It will look unconcieveably stupid.

    You have also set it to 80%. I don't want it to take up 80%. I want it to take up 820px. As I said before, this value just acts as a MAXIMUM, it should still shrink down (which all the other pages do). If I wanted 80% I would have just stuck with my CSSv2 absolute positioning structure.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    Ecept that IE happily carries a table cell absolute into all tables within it and you did not close the cell with the background in this column so the other tables just used 820 px as minimum instead of maximum.

    I was trying to show a principle, not understood, am withdrawing from thread and convo. Model how IE implicitly layers tables within cells, which is what the code that does not collapse does.

    John.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    Ageek wrote:
    Ecept that IE happily carries a table cell absolute into all tables within it

    It blatantly doesn't otherwise all tables inside that cell would be stuck at 820px, which they aren't (as shown by every other page on the site).
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    Right, as I said, it was to do with the piece of code that I initially posted and NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING ELSE.

    The problem is, the table didn't have a size at all (niether in px or %, all it needed was a 100% specified) as shown below:

    [php]<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"3\" width=\"100%\">
    <tr>
    <td style=\"background-image: url('http://atomnet.co.uk/dl?ss=newsbar')\"><div class=\"newstitle\">$Date -::- $Title</div></td>
    <td align=\"right\" style=\"background-image: url('http://atomnet.co.uk/dl?ss=newsbar')\"><div class=\"newstitle\">$Poster</div></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td width=\"100%\" colspan=\"2\">
    <img style=\"Margin-top: 11px; Margin-bottom: 15px; Margin-right: 14px; Margin-left: 9px; BORDER-RIGHT: #cccccc 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #cccccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #cccccc 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #cccccc 1px solid\"
    height=\"75\" hspace=\"0\" src=\"/dl?newsi=newsthumb$id\" width=\"85\" border=\"0\" align=\"left\" alt=\"$Title\" />
    <div style=\"color: #DCDCDC; font: 8pt Verdana; margin: 2px 0px 0px 14px;\">$NewsBody</div></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td></td>
    <td align=\"right\"><a href=\"#Top\"><img style=\"border: 1px solid #110055;\" src=\"/dl?newsi=top\" alt=\"Back to Top\" /></a></td>
    </tr>
    </table>[/php]
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited February 2004
    NS: Maybe if you weren't so rude more people would offer you some assistance. Just because John might not have solved your issue is no reason to verbally trash him repeatedly. Grow up.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    a2jfreak wrote:
    NS: Maybe if you weren't so rude more people would offer you some assistance. Just because John might not have solved your issue is no reason to verbally trash him repeatedly. Grow up.

    It's not not solving the issue that is the problem. It is TELLING me that I am doing something completely wrong, when I know what I am being told is completely wrong. I think you will find it has nothing to do with "Growing up" See your other "insult" post for more info.
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited February 2004
    You often are rude to people, not just Ageek. You seem to have an extremely short fuse. This is the Internet which affords you a wonderful opportunity you're not afforded when dealing with people face to face: the ability to take your time, calm down, and make a rational statement without using insults or being rude. You should take advantage of that and be more polite when posting.

    Couldn't you get across the same points by saying things like, "I see what you're saying, Ageek, but I believe that you're not exactly following me. Thank you for your help anyway, it is appreciated." And about John's misinformation, at least he is attempting to contribute. Some of his "facts" might not be, but I've seen him take a lot of criticism from many people and yet he still attempts to help when he feels he can. Are John's posts long-winded and often difficult to understand? Yes. Does he purposefully mean to misinform people? I seriously doubt it.

    As for my "other 'insult' post," it was not meant as an insult, otherwise I would have called you names or something else immature. All I did was state a fact: you're a rude person. You don't have to be, though, you choose to. There's a saying, "you catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar." Perhaps using a little bit of "sweetness" in your posts would make them more well received by some.

    Anyway, I've said my peace. Mr. Kwitko or another mod/admin doesn't need to close this thread. The only reason I posted this in the thread, rather that in a PM is because I felt it might do more good that way.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    Enverex wrote:
    It's not like I told you 3 times or anything.

    Now that I can see your post Ageek, it makes even less sense. You are ending the entire main page where the news is, directly before the news even starts. It will look unconcieveably stupid.

    You have also set it to 80%. I don't want it to take up 80%. I want it to take up 820px. As I said before, this value just acts as a MAXIMUM, it should still shrink down (which all the other pages do). If I wanted 80% I would have just stuck with my CSSv2 absolute positioning structure.

    FYI-- I posted the snippet to show you what would happen. The table end was to unbreak the forum thread.

    Point was and is, when you do have a table in a cell the table inside can override the outer table in IE. You did not define outer table, the inner table ruled. I am not going to build your code, I find you rude also, but cared enough to tell you what to look for and what to avoid as a rule.

    You want handouts and use words that are insulting when you do not get them. Period. From now on I will not bother to answer your requests for help. I have dealt with layering implicits for 4 years, and seen them since Windows 95 was NEW. bye.

    John D.
  • croc_croc_ New
    edited February 2004
    Is this all fixed? (not the drama, I mean the website) Both links you posted seem to be working fine. (IE and Firebird)
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