Tom looks at Prescott

MJOMJO Denmark New
edited February 2004 in Hardware
I do not like Tom or their reviews.
Everybody know they are a bunch of intel fanboys.
But they do have a preview on Prescott before everyone else. (wonder why?) ;)

Well here's the link, enjoy or whatever.
http://www20.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040201/index.html

Intel fact of the day: We have now extended the pipeline to a whopping 31 stages. :eek3:

Comments

  • ketoketo Occupied. Or is it preoccupied? Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    Prescott reviews are up all over. Front page of [H] has a whole bunch listed.

    Overall, after reading 5 of them so far, Prescott is not going to be a good value - just as has been suspected and written many times on these forums and elsewhere. However, I did come across one interesting snippet that will be of interest in particular to overclockers who decide to make this purchase anyways, possibly as an "upgrade" (word used very liberally). See THIS PAGE @ Anandtech.
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited February 2004
    It is very interesting that nearly all the rumours have been true.
    The pipeline is even longer than rumoured.
    30 stages was suspected, it is at 31 stages.
    The wattage is probably correct as well.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited February 2004
    The prescott lost every test compared to the northwood except for Sandras Memory Bench. Sad.
  • CAGCAG Boca Raton, Florida
    edited February 2004
    1. Pass on Prescott I ("old" Socket478 on "old" Canterbury/Springdale chipset). Your better off holding your P4C Northwoods.

    2. Do not pass on Prescott II (LGA775 on Grantsdale(915)/Alderwood(925x)chipsets - PCI Express, ICH6R, DDR2...). Also, no AGP support - look for ATi/nVidia to soon launch some killer PC-Express cards that'll make AGP obsolete.

    'Course, no fanboys posting to this thread...
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited February 2004
    I think the R420 should be a PCI-X card.
  • TheBaronTheBaron Austin, TX
    edited February 2004
    yeah im excited about PCI-X , but my next machine'll be AMD. i'm sick of intel
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited February 2004
    Rumour has it that Ati will release both PCI express and AGP versions of the R420.
    But we will know soon enough.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited February 2004
    All I know is that the next video card upgrade will have full 32-bit instructions instead of the 24-bit ATI has now.
  • hypermoodhypermood Smyrna, GA New
    edited February 2004
    Just to clarify: PCI-X is not the same as PCI Express. PCI-X has been in use for some time now in telecom and military applications and was originally backed/co-developed by HP. PCI-X is an extension to the PCI standard but with bus speeds up to 100/133 MHz, yet remains backwards compatible. PCI Express uses different protocol and signaling methods. To get PCI Express to be compatible with legacy PCI hardware you need bridge circuitry.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited February 2004
    I know they are different but dont really know which one is which. Well which ever one will have the new graphics cards is the one I want. Means a new board as well with Athlon FX too.:D
  • hypermoodhypermood Smyrna, GA New
    edited February 2004
    The next generation PC bus is PCI Express not PCI-X. That's what I was trying to clarify. PCI-SIG really needs some marketing guys to come up with a fancy abbreviation for PCI Express. In all of the literature it is spelled out; I really think they are making a point to not let it become PCI-XP :wink:
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited February 2004
    AnandTech seems to like the new Prescott; achieving over 3.7GHz at stock voltage.
    HardOCP doesn't seem to like the new Prescott.

    I think I'll take the route HardOCP stated on its conclusion page: wait until the retail chips are out. If the retail chips are good for OC'ing then all the Prescott-bashing might fall on deaf ears for those that are looking for the utmost in performance and don't care about IPC. Personally, I'm a big fan of AMD (I only have 1 functioning Intel system in the house), but with the ability to run two instances of F@H with little performance hit I've really taken a shine to the high-clocked P4s. If Prescott does as AnandTech believes (scales better than Northwood) and will achieve ~4GHz without much coaxing, then my next purchase could be a P4. We shall see, though. Right now it is much too premature for me to make a judgement, especially with s939 CPUs just around the corner.

    /me loves technology!!!
  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    I think that CAG hit it on the nose. It is all AMD until they make hte next socket change.
    The PCI mess could make Intel's 'socket of the month club' look civilized. There are only four variations of PCI type interfaces out there now, PCI Express, PCI-X, PCI-X 2.0 and PCI 2.3.
    PCI-SIG is the standard implementation group, the companies that establish the standards.
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