Do we expect anything less from Guinness? When it comes to quantifiable things (like the worlds biggest snowball fight), Guinness tends to be spot-on. As soon as you move away from the realm of the quantifiable, however, I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them.
Metal Gear Solid 3 ranked (far) lower than Super Mario Bros. A game whose ending consists of nothing more than this screen.
Beat out this by a lot.
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I not only puked a little, i died inside... well what was still alive in me died... you want a list? here: any mario or megaman from Nes and Snes any final fantasy from 1 to 8 i'm glad shadow of the colossus was in the list... final fantasy tactics ogre tactics sonic 1 through 3 and sonic and knuckles pretty much any game released before 1999...
Canti, you said exactly (and I mean that literally) what I was about to type in this little box. I saw MGS3 and Super Mario Bros. And I made that exact same comparison, with a nice blob of "WTF" slathered on top.
The entire Metal Gear series hits hard. I will boldly admit, without any trace of shame, that I cried manly tears during Metal Gear Solid 4's ending. Manly. Tears.
In contrast, I can barely even remember there being and ending on most of the other games on that list, let alone a good one. Even Ocarina of Time, in all its nostalgia glory, had a pretty ho-hum ending.
MGS4 is pretty much exactly where it should be, if not a little higher. I hold it in very, very high regard.
I thought it was dumb they included Super Mario Bros and Sonic the Hedgehog. I love those games to death, but the only reason they made that list is out of nostalgia. Nothing about them makes them definitive game endings/stories.
This is a joke it has to be, any list that doesn't include Deus Ex, (Rated one of the greatest PC games ever made) Thief The Metal Age, Duke Nukem 3d, Doom, Goldeneye, (64 version not that reloaded bs) and Age of Empires 2 has got to be a massive joke.
(I could list more games but these stand out in the forefront of my mind of games that I've played. [note Half-Life isn't there because I've never played any of the games, something I should get around to])
While in most regards Halo is way, way, way overrated Reach did have a particularly evocative and balsy ending. Mass Effect 2 had a badass end right up until the dumb boss fight, Mass Effect 1's was better, and significantly better than Amy of the Assassin's Creed endings.
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While in most regards Halo is way, way, way overrated Reach did have a particularly evocative and balsy ending. Mass Effect 2 had a badass end right up until the dumb boss fight, Mass Effect 1's was better, and significantly better than Amy of the Assassin's Creed endings.
Yeah, I felt that boss fight kind of ruined ME2's ending for me. I mean, it didn't totally ruin it, I still think it was spectacular, but that fight was pretty dumb.
Believe it or not people most definitely do play Halo for the story. They read all the books and stuff and study the lore and have posters of the cheap knock off of Shodan from System Shock 2.
So, you are upset that your opinions are not represented in a survey of a fairly large group? I do wonder if you can be sure that those of us here are representative of an "average" gamer. When you are dealing with a subjective term like "best" the process should be to poll a large number of people in order to achieve some level of average “best”
“You can’t have a small sample of gamers vote on what, in their opinion, are the greatest video game endings of all time (which shockingly relate directly to top sales figures), and then slap a seal on it and call it definitive.”
Which is probably exactly what should be done. Additionally, the reason it relates to sales figures is due to the fact that sales represent the number of units purchased which would correlate to the # of games people actually played. I think part of your issue is that you do not feel that you are represented, but are not you and many of this site at the forefront of gaming and less hobbyists? Perhaps you main issue is in how you define Gamer and how you rate subjective terms. Perhaps what should be polled instead are 500 video game reviewers. Would that be more definitive? Or would a better poll be one that is limited to those who can demonstrate 15+ years of gaming as a hobby with 20+ games played and purchased each of those years.
They should have checked for experience, a new gamer or an casual gamer would obviously pick the flashest game out there, a veteran gamer or a career gamer would judge on content.
What about Half-Life? With these games on the list, you'd expect PONG to be on the list!
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I just noticed that Star Wars The Force Unleashed was on the list. The game we paid 60USD for and beat on the hardest difficulty within 6hrs 100%? The game that not only shit on the original trilogy but the already craptastic prequel trilogy?
Even the casual gamer should know better than this.
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by a lot.
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you want a list? here:
any mario or megaman from Nes and Snes
any final fantasy from 1 to 8
i'm glad shadow of the colossus was in the list...
final fantasy tactics
ogre tactics
sonic 1 through 3 and sonic and knuckles
pretty much any game released before 1999...
And on what planet is Starcraft II a bigger deal than the original Starcraft/SC:BW?
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The entire Metal Gear series hits hard. I will boldly admit, without any trace of shame, that I cried manly tears during Metal Gear Solid 4's ending. Manly. Tears.
In contrast, I can barely even remember there being and ending on most of the other games on that list, let alone a good one. Even Ocarina of Time, in all its nostalgia glory, had a pretty ho-hum ending.
This list can go eat a dick (clown).
I thought it was dumb they included Super Mario Bros and Sonic the Hedgehog. I love those games to death, but the only reason they made that list is out of nostalgia. Nothing about them makes them definitive game endings/stories.
Another one that I always thought was nice.
This list made me sad....I cried...
(I could list more games but these stand out in the forefront of my mind of games that I've played. [note Half-Life isn't there because I've never played any of the games, something I should get around to])
Surely the problem, if there is one, is the casual gamers that voted.
Personally who cares; does it effect your favourite ernding wasn't chosen?
“You can’t have a small sample of gamers vote on what, in their opinion, are the greatest video game endings of all time (which shockingly relate directly to top sales figures), and then slap a seal on it and call it definitive.”
Which is probably exactly what should be done. Additionally, the reason it relates to sales figures is due to the fact that sales represent the number of units purchased which would correlate to the # of games people actually played. I think part of your issue is that you do not feel that you are represented, but are not you and many of this site at the forefront of gaming and less hobbyists? Perhaps you main issue is in how you define Gamer and how you rate subjective terms. Perhaps what should be polled instead are 500 video game reviewers. Would that be more definitive? Or would a better poll be one that is limited to those who can demonstrate 15+ years of gaming as a hobby with 20+ games played and purchased each of those years.
How would you make a “definitive” list?
Worked well for Rolling Stone's 100 greatest guitarists list.
Even the casual gamer should know better than this.