Mozilla 1.6 and Thunderbird 0.4 released
Straight_Man
Geeky, in my own wayNaples, FL Icrontian
Please note that this is mostly a look-and-feel fine-tuning and fine tuning of the email client in Mozilla and same feature implementation in Thunderbird .4.
Basicly, two things to note: You can now give mozilla
[PHP]about:about[/PHP]
as a command and it will give you an about index and how to gt info using the about command in Mozilla. The email client can now actually remove content from an email server after a certain time in days and do a few other more minor things.
More minor, the Mozilla translate function now hooks to Google's translator. Google has one of the better free page translators around the web.
Myself, I like and use thunderbird, the thunderbird page is here:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/
This applies to Mozilla and Thunderbird for Windows, Linux, and Mac, so I am doing it in General and avoiding multiple posts.
John D.
Basicly, two things to note: You can now give mozilla
[PHP]about:about[/PHP]
as a command and it will give you an about index and how to gt info using the about command in Mozilla. The email client can now actually remove content from an email server after a certain time in days and do a few other more minor things.
More minor, the Mozilla translate function now hooks to Google's translator. Google has one of the better free page translators around the web.
Myself, I like and use thunderbird, the thunderbird page is here:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/
This applies to Mozilla and Thunderbird for Windows, Linux, and Mac, so I am doing it in General and avoiding multiple posts.
John D.
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Firebird and Thunderbird just arn't too finished to me just yet, some minor annoying issues with the layout and customizability, while the same problem is in Mozilla 1.6, they arn't AS annoying.
I use T-Bird partly because I wanted the email part of Mozilla and the Browser only part of Opera 7.23(I actually use Opera in BOTH Windows and Linux, licensed version), in Linux Mandrake 9.2 PowerPack. KDE does not always release all its inits for T-Bird or Mozilla so it is best run always-on in Linux if you like KDE 3.1.4. For a not-finished product, it is better than OE 3.01 was, and the Thunderbird .4 is basicly Mozilla 1.6's email client. Personal preference, I guess....
In TB or Mozilla email client, click on junk, right click it, you get an option to move junk marked stuff to trash. Then click on Trash, go to the menu with the spam control options, tell it to delete messages marked as junk, and you just started training a trainable spam killer that is a decent subset of Spam Assassin. Repeat for any more junk, and after a while you will get no more of that particular sender and topic pair showing up in your inbox at all on your local box-- if you kill enough spam that way from one domain, it seems to trash by domain or by multiple rules that block more and more spam. There is no anti-spam that you do not pay for better than a Spam Assassin that is trained. Takes about a month of training or 1,500 email samples to really tune it in, after that it can be about 90% accurate, and the click on two folders to lock lets you unmark what you WANT and then drag back into inbox. TB and Mozilla can also do newsgroups if you have a newsserver you can use. For the tech email lists I belong to, I also have had (and still have) some autosort rules running-- I wish that feature were more robust and easier to get to, but basicly once you get used to the fact that it does not follow Windows menuing rules deliberately, and that you can right click a link in TB, copy the link, then paste into any browser that can paste if a browser link, things get easier.
The nice thing about both the Opera and Mozilla folks, is that they do respond to issues as fast as they can find fixes that survive beta testing by testers who use Dailies (nightly updates).
John D.
however there are some annoying problems :
1) mozilla refuses to let my default download manager (DAP) to run when i download something.. it chooses to use its own built-in one instead.
2) there are several sites that require a form of username and password which need IE and cannot be run on mozilla.. (http://www.surf88.com/)
are there any solutions to this?
Thanks !
I use Opera instead, with Opera's FTP client. Opera is also tabbed, can masq as IE 5.5 and does so well, running a Sun Java underlayer (yes, on XP Pro, Java 2 browsing with tabs and windows and Mozilla-like Bookmarking with additional features like beign able to stick bookmarks right into your own bookmark folders, goolge entry box in browser builtin, etc.). Note, I can download stuff from Microsft itself quite well with Opera. It basicly transfers faster than Mozilla did, same ISP and it transfers 3X the speed of IE on same box from same server. Opera can run almost any plugin, it runs the Mozilla-style AcroExch plugin for Acrobat Reader just fine. It is at version 7.2.3 as of last I looked. I got the paid version of that, and used Mozilla or Netscape for over a decade. Opera just ROCKS, Mozilla is close but Opera code is actually less resource intensive than Mozilla for better functionality. Opera is also skinnable as is Mozilla.
But, I do use Thunderbird 0.5 for email, that version was released Feb 7 of this year. Thunderbird is the email part of Mozilla. 0.4 worked also for me, and 0.3 slightly less well.
John D.
Either that or you can masq as Ageek said, but I recommend against that because then it looks like IE is being used even when Mozilla is being used. The more people that use Mozilla the more likely sites are going to stop being IE-only and be written to HTML standards.
As for your first problem, I'm not sure. Perhaps tell Mozilla to "don't open anything" (Edit | Preferences | Downloads) and see if that will work. Or try googling for "DAP Mozilla working" or something along those lines. Or perhaps just "Third Party Download Manager Mozilla Setup OR config"