What I deal with as a high level trader...
BobbyDigi
? R U #Hats !TX Icrontian
I really do try to be nice. I got added by two different players this morning. I accepted their adds and these are the unedited conversations that played out. (I changed their names because it is irrelevant). These are not the first nor do I expect them to be the last.
Warning: I make no promises that this is interesting or even slightly entertaining. I just wanted to share.
Warning: I make no promises that this is interesting or even slightly entertaining. I just wanted to share.
{IC} BobbyDigi: Hi there. I am away from my PC currently sending this from teh Web interface. You should be able to reply to me here or if you want to throw me a trade offer, feel free to do so.
DerpNo1: ok
DerpNo1: do u have keys?
DerpNo1: or stranges?
{IC} BobbyDigi: Yup
{IC} BobbyDigi: and Yup
DerpNo1: can i have 1 strange scatter gun
DerpNo1: ?
{IC} BobbyDigi: ...have?
DerpNo1: like ill trade u
DerpNo1: ok?
{IC} BobbyDigi: Sure. I can;t go into the trade interface right now but if you want to offer here or send me a trade offer, I'll consider your offer
DerpNo1: ok
DerpNo1: wait u mean u cant do this
DerpNo1: that?
{IC} BobbyDigi: I'm chatting with you from the web interface. I don't have steam installed on the Computer I am at. If you send me a trade request, I will not get it.
DerpNo1: ohhhh
DerpNo1: ok
DerpNo1: oh i see the web thing
{IC} BobbyDigi: So you can tell me what you want to offer, or you can go to my profile and click on "More" and "Offer a trade"
DerpNo1: ok
DerpNo1: u mean like that how i sent u?
{IC} BobbyDigi: I see the offer
{IC} BobbyDigi: Unfortunately I'm going to have to decline
DerpNo1: well if u want ill give u my awsome strange flame thrower
{IC} BobbyDigi: The strange weapons you chose are worth far more then what you are offering
DerpNo1: nvm
{IC} BobbyDigi: I wouldn't want you to do that, you look like you use that quite a bit
DerpNo1: no not rly i got that like that
{IC} BobbyDigi: Let me take a look in your backpack and see if there is anything that we may be able to make a deal on
DerpNo1: ok
DerpNo1: dude u there?
{IC} BobbyDigi: Unfortunately you don't have anything worth enough to make a fair trade for the Scatter or the Pistol (My revolver is not for trade).
DerpNo1: ok
DerpNo1: but rly dude ur scatter is is regular strange
{IC} BobbyDigi: ...worth 3 refined
DerpNo1: wat?
DerpNo1: dude plz ill give u ANYTHING!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!??!
{IC} BobbyDigi: I'm sorry, I'm willing to make a deal but even if you traded everything tradeable in your backpack, it would still be less than 3 refined.
DerpNo1: ok ill make 3 refined ok
{IC} BobbyDigi: You've got a lot of untradable weps, make sure not to use any of those
{IC} BobbyDigi: I would trade you the scatter for 3 ref
DerpNo1: ok
DerpNo1: wait dude ill ask some one to give me 3 refined metal for trade ok
{IC} BobbyDigi: Ok
DerpNo1: dude nobody wants anything for the 3 refined metel
{IC} BobbyDigi: I can tell you why if you like
DerpNo1: i asked and asked but every one says no
DerpNo1: wait wat?
DerpNo1: tell me
{IC} BobbyDigi: If you are trying to trade for refined from the stuff in your backpack, you are not going to get 3 refined...
{IC} BobbyDigi: Your flame thrower is worth abotu a refined but you aould have to find someone who wants to buy it
{IC} BobbyDigi: The enforcer is about a reclaimed (1/3 a refined)
DerpNo1: :P
{IC} BobbyDigi: and you have just over 18 craftable tradable weps that you would be able to make another refined out of
{IC} BobbyDigi: that is only 2.33 for everything in your backpack
{IC} BobbyDigi: So unless you find someone feeling charitable to give you metal, you are nto going to squeeze 3 refined out of what you have in your backpack
DerpNo1: dude nvm i quit i could maybe even unbox the strange scatter gun ill ask 5 more people
{IC} BobbyDigi: I wouldn't suggest you give up. I do not mean to frustrate you.
{IC} BobbyDigi: Consider if you are buying keys that you could trade a key for 7+ refined
DerpNo1: well i rly want a scatter gun that is strange u have about 4 or 5
{IC} BobbyDigi: Unboxing is the best way to lose value
{IC} BobbyDigi: Indeed, but I am a gaming community manager and I have been trading for more than 6 years. I understand where you are at, I was there myself once
DerpNo1: idk wat u mean?
{IC} BobbyDigi: It takes time to trade up for the things you want. If you are willing to buy keys though, unboxing is not the way to get what you want
{IC} BobbyDigi: Unboxing is a roll of the dice at best
DerpNo1: ok
{IC} BobbyDigi: If you have the ability to get a key, you could trade that for 7 refined, buy your scatter for 3 refined and have 4 refined left over
DerpNo1: dude im getting keys at march 1st
DerpNo1: im trying my BEST TO GET a strange scatter gun
DerpNo1: my best
{IC} BobbyDigi: Ok, well I am more then willing to help you through the process once you have a tradable key
DerpNo1: hmmm
DerpNo1: well...
DerpNo1: nvm
DerpNo1: dude im probley about to get a key
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So the first part of the conversation with DerpNo1 is me explaining that I was chatting with him through the web interface. A recent addition, you can go to anyone's profile that you are friends with and start up a chat similar to in Steam. You can not receive an incoming chat though. So basically I was at work (While steam was logged in at home) so when I get an add I will accept the add an immediately explain that I am not on Steam at my PC so I am unable to go into the normal trade interface. What I can do is send and accept Trade Offers. A Trade Offer allows you construct a trade from your inventory and a friends inventory. It then sends notification to the other person. They then have the ability to counter offer, decline or accept. If they accept, the items as agreed in the trade are transferred each way.
After DerpNo1 understood this, he sent me a trade offer consisting of a Strange Enforcer, 3 craftable weapons (one gifted) and 3 uncraftable weapons for a Strange Scattergun, Strange Pistol and Strange Revolver from my backpack. I decline. He then offers to add his Strange Flame Thrower into the deal. I had seen in his backpack that he had almost 1000 kills on it so I try to deflect directly declining by saying I wouldn't want to take it from him as it looks like he uses it quite a bit. He brushes it off saying that it came like that (It didn't. Kills on Strange weapons reset any time they change possession).
I then tell him I will look in his backpack to see if there is anything I could use. I gave his bag another look and didn't find anything good so I explain that as politely as I could. He then tries to downplay the value of what he wants from me saying my Scattergun "is a regular strange". This means nothing. A weapon is Strange or not. The value is more determined by supply and demand. A Strange Scattergun is low/mid tier Strange worth about 3 refined. I then state that.
He breaks down and reverts to begging. I explain the position we are in as I have an item that I can go sell for 3 refined rather easily and he doesn't even have 3 refined worth of items to offer.
He then says he will "make 3 refined". This immediately concerns me that he is going to go craft everything in his backpack to try to make 3 refined. I can see his backpack and while this is mathematically impossible, he also has a hand full of untradeable weapons along with an untradeable reclaimed metal. Untradable weapons come from achievements. If you use them in crafting, the resulting craft is also untradable. So I voice my concern advising him not to craft any of the untradable weapons but if he was to come up with 3 refined, I would trade him a Strange Scattergun for it.
He then states he is going to ask someone for 3 refined. Figuring he might have other friends online that would hook him up, "Ok". He comes back shortly, within 60 seconds, seemingly upset that no one will give him 3 refined for the items in his backpack. I don't want to just say "it's because you have crap" so I offer to explain if he wishes me to. He accepts. I explain what his items are worth and why he does not have 3 refined.
He virtually throws up his hands and indicates he is just going to go open some crates. Crates take keys to open, keys worth 7+ refined. So I explain if he has a key to open a crate, he essentially has 7 refined to that he can trade for which he can then trade for his Scattergun. I want to emphasize to him that popping crates is not a very good way to increase the value of his backpack. It is quite the opposite. He points out that he really wants a Scattergun and I have more than one. I explain that if he gets a key, he can get a Scattergun and have 4 refined change without opening any crates. He states that he is getting keys on March first (Maybe when he gets his allowance? I don't know) and then seemingly breaks down again stating he is doing his best to get a Strange Scattergun.
I explain to him that I would be happy to help him get his Strange Scattergun once he has a key. He hmms, and tells me to never mind. A few seconds later he states he might be about to get a key. A few seconds later he goes offline.
I spend the rest of my lunch hour poking around the Steam market and browsing Reddit.
Well that turned out longer than expected. I'll do the other one later.
On the note of trading, though I don't really want to bother you with it I don't know what my TF2 inventory is worth, I think I traded all of my metal last season to one of the guys on the Icrontic server but I don't remember so eh it'd be nice to know the value just based off what I have.
I'm trying to get all the soldier sets and right now I'm trying to grab the 'Airborne Armaments' set.
I have a strange Market Gardener but I'd really like to get my hands on the other two, a strange Liberty Launcher, and a strange Reserve Shooter the problem herein is that again I don't know what, if anything my inventory is worth, if the items in question exist and in a decent enough quantity I won't bankrupt myself trying to find it and finally how to trade for it in the first place if it does exist.
tldr sorry trying to gather soldier equipment.
But apparently simply running around on trading servers and saying stupid things to make yourself seem like you are completely new and don't understand things is a great way to get a lot of free weapons, from what I have read.
There is an estimated 1% chance to unbox an Unusual Hat from any given crate. Those are worth anywhere from $30 to multiple $1000s. There are also some items worth multiple keys in some crates.
DerpNo1 has gone sour. He actually joined on the server during this weeks TF2sday. He stated at least once "Anyone have a Strange Scattergun for trade?" Not knowing it was him (he's changed his name multiple times since he added me) I responded "Selling Strange Scattergun for 3 ref." I immediately get a message; And then he didn't show up on the next map
A Herp's Tale:
The aforementioned Deagle: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197999565562/inventory/#730_2_121921057
On the flip side, I have had players add me because they want something I have on the market but would like to pay with metal or items. I have had many successful transactions start this way. Luckily, the Derps I post here, so far, are the minority.
So I ran into a guy trying to scam me today. I friended this guy a week ago on CS:GO, I'm pretty sure this kid got phished and the phisher tried to scam me. He wanted my CS:GO butterfly knife worth ~120$. I was fighting a boss in Darksouls 2 when he started messaging me. Changed his name for the post.
Cola plz.
gibe mone
Noooooo plz
Im sorry
plz