Help build Clutch a computer
Okay guys, my trusty ol' 1700+ finally died on me last week
That baby ran a smooth overclock at 1.9ghz for well over a year, almost 2 actually.
Well I took down my server to put in a 2000+ in just to get it back up and running, because I got to have my WoW you know, hehe
Well I want to try to build a new computer, or upgrade my NF7S v.2 to the best it can take.
So could you help me piece out a new computer?
Right now I'm running
NF7S v2
512mb pc3200
2000+ xp
420 antec true power
Radeon 9800 pro 128mb
80gig hdd
I really don't plan on overclocking any time soon, but would like the room to.
I have been out of the hardware scene for quite some time now, so I'm really lost on what to look for anymore![:( :(](https://icrontic.com/resources/icrontimoji/sad.gif)
Come together my fellow friends
I guess budget would be like under a grand if possible
I want a computer that will run WoW very good at high settings that will not lag up during a Raid![:) :)](https://icrontic.com/resources/icrontimoji/smile.gif)
I plan on ordering parts tomorrow also
![:( :(](https://icrontic.com/resources/icrontimoji/sad.gif)
Well I took down my server to put in a 2000+ in just to get it back up and running, because I got to have my WoW you know, hehe
Well I want to try to build a new computer, or upgrade my NF7S v.2 to the best it can take.
So could you help me piece out a new computer?
Right now I'm running
NF7S v2
512mb pc3200
2000+ xp
420 antec true power
Radeon 9800 pro 128mb
80gig hdd
I really don't plan on overclocking any time soon, but would like the room to.
I have been out of the hardware scene for quite some time now, so I'm really lost on what to look for anymore
![:( :(](https://icrontic.com/resources/icrontimoji/sad.gif)
Come together my fellow friends
I guess budget would be like under a grand if possible
I want a computer that will run WoW very good at high settings that will not lag up during a Raid
![:) :)](https://icrontic.com/resources/icrontimoji/smile.gif)
I plan on ordering parts tomorrow also
![:) :)](https://icrontic.com/resources/icrontimoji/smile.gif)
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I think the cheapest way to go would be getting another processor. My NF7 rig has a 2500+ mobile in it and it has been running at 2505mhz for about a year and a half now. It runs really good. With some good memory 2300-2400 no sweat . And not much heat. They are still only $85.00 at the EGG Link
Just a thought.
I know it is not as much fun as a new machine but it is cheap.
Scott
Edit
I have 2 of the 2500 mobiles one on water and one on air The one on air is running at 2400mhz at 45C full load folding. They are great chips for the dough.
How much of a difference would the extra 500-600 mhz on the CPU make in a game? Usually I've upgraded my video card about the same time as I've upgraded my CPU, so I've never really been able to tell. I happen to have a similar setup to Clutch, and have thought about upgrading to a mobile barton.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-400&depa=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-440&depa=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-401&depa=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-439&depa=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-436&depa=0
the last one is my favorite. With decent ram and a good cooler you can run this at 2.4-2.5ghz/400 fsb no sweat and more likely than not go farther.
edit:\ actually I'm surprised to see them still around.
If I upgrade what I have, I will go with 1 gig of ram, and a new cpu. If I were to get a mobile barton, what type of ram would you suggest?
Also should I stick with a nice agp video card to go with pci express? What would be some of the top dog video cards for agp?
As far as agp there are some hellacious cards out there just depends on what you want to spend.
I'm not sure that the 6600gt ($180 starting) would be worth the upgrade unless you sell the 9800 pro.
However, if you lean towards the 800xl will see far greater improvement for your dollar. If you keep checking newegg they're liable to be below $300 real soon.
If this route with agp & mobile you can keep saving for your future a64. That technology hasn't quite peaked out yet and venice/san diego is on the way so I recommend holding off. Also, you should be able to reuse that 1gb pc3200 low latency when you do that upgrade.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-890&depa=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-164-039&depa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-520&depa=1 <---this card was 309 all weekend and just went up ...it will drop soon I'm sure.
If you're considering pci-express then you may as well go a64 ...in that case what's your budget and do you have a good psu?
DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D $139.99
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ $267.00
Sapphire ATI Radeon X800 XL, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, DVI/TV Out, PCI-Express $305.00
Total = $711.99
Then add a gig of memory and a new PSU to handle it and get new drives with the cash you get from selling your current parts and it will be in for under a grand.
Sell yours, cut your losses, and buy a matched 1G of Tccd.
If you decide to sell let me know
do you have 1 stick or 2 of that hyperX pc3200?
I don't think you'll see much more return by adding 512 more mem ...you can probably tweak what you have and get better results than that.
what kind of benchmarks were you getting with the cpu before it fried?
If you do decide to go for broke and build a new rig, the setup mtgoat suggested sounds pretty good. Personally, I would hold off a couple of months on building a socket 939 machine and wait for the new rev E A64's to hit the pipeline as I think we will stand a decent chance of getting to 3 GHz with air cooling with the new rev. procs, but that's just me.
EDIT: BTW, my XP-M 2600 will do over 2300 MHz with 1.65v or less vcore, so you can run them fast without straining everything else.
yeah what he said!
Let me know how much of a difference the processor makes in WoW. Nobody noticed my earlier post
He hasn't been here in two days...
Once I get my card back I can get back into the drivers and go over the ones that matter most ...probably saturday.
So you have any questions in particular for now?
One thing I do remember is to enable fast writes in the bios but disable it in smartgart. I noticed performance improvement there.
Whenever I tried to move the tab to performace in their control panel games ran at half the speed they used to, even older less graphically intense ones.
Anyway, I appreciate the article, and take your time with the videocard advice, no rush here. I just finished HL2 (wow amazing ending, great game) and was able to run it at 1024x768 with 4xAF/4xAA without any noticeable problems on a stock 2500+, stock 512 XMS, and the 9800Pro. But more for my money is always better.
Everything is running really great now with the new ram in. I can fly into Org and not be lagged up all to hell, it is amazing.
Now if you will excuse me I have to make it to 28 and go get some mage training...
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2381
http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-x-1304-x-x-x
These links should really answer the questions on what effect video cards/settings, RAM amounts, and CPU speed make on WoW. I don't know about the rest of you, but I play almost every day and there is always a lag spike about every couple hours. And after spending numerous hours in Ironforge, I have dubbed it the City of Lag.