Breads - Is there a difference?
Oh boy did I catch hell for this one. At ICHQ I made the remark that wheat bread and white bread were pretty much the same as far as health and nutrition. This was not taken well by the group.
But this comment didn't come out of my butt. Sometimes I actually have a good point...sometimes :-)
I have been compiling a spread sheet of 30 differnt breads that "Aunt Millies" produces (www.auntmillies.com).
I logged the nutritional label of each bread. What I found is that 23 out of 30 breads have virtually identical nutrition. Wheat, white, 100% wheat, multi-grain. All were static across the board. At least 12 grain had 5 time more fiber, but only 6g.
The major argument (Valid) was that the nutritional label means nothing and it how your body processes the food. I say the nutritional label is a reflection of the ingredients.
Another valid argument was the wheat bread has more of the grain parts than white. That would mean that fiber would be higher. Well it is higher in most, but only by .5g to 1g in most cases. Pretty much nothing.
The Healthy Goodness bread however, i will say, is much better from a nutritional point of view. Less sugar and more fiber.
I would say don't stress out about the type of bread you eat. The real choice is to eat the bread or don't. But between breads its almost all the same.
Attached is my spreadsheet. See for yourself.
But this comment didn't come out of my butt. Sometimes I actually have a good point...sometimes :-)
I have been compiling a spread sheet of 30 differnt breads that "Aunt Millies" produces (www.auntmillies.com).
I logged the nutritional label of each bread. What I found is that 23 out of 30 breads have virtually identical nutrition. Wheat, white, 100% wheat, multi-grain. All were static across the board. At least 12 grain had 5 time more fiber, but only 6g.
The major argument (Valid) was that the nutritional label means nothing and it how your body processes the food. I say the nutritional label is a reflection of the ingredients.
Another valid argument was the wheat bread has more of the grain parts than white. That would mean that fiber would be higher. Well it is higher in most, but only by .5g to 1g in most cases. Pretty much nothing.
The Healthy Goodness bread however, i will say, is much better from a nutritional point of view. Less sugar and more fiber.
I would say don't stress out about the type of bread you eat. The real choice is to eat the bread or don't. But between breads its almost all the same.
Attached is my spreadsheet. See for yourself.
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Nutritional Label = reflection of ingredients.
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therefore the you can get a good idea of the ingredients from the nutritional label. The data speaks for it's self. There are breads that are healthier than others (shown by the healthy goodness breads data) but it's not white vs. wheat. it's brand vs brand.
This is hard data folks. You may wish it wasn't true, but it is.
To anyone else: It's not worth wasting your time on this thread. Just move along.
I don't know why you ignore hard data. Give me a link or something to show that nutritional labels do not matter.
Ingredients of common wheat bread:
A calorie is not a calorie, it is not reflective of what creates that calorie.
Oh a calorie IS a calorie. That's like saying an inch is not an inch.
I get your point that the total calorie count is made up of sugars, proteins and fats and the total calorie count is shifted in one of 3 direction depending on the food. And sugars you will retain more weight from calories from sugars than proteins.
To that point, look at the spreadsheet and compare the sugars and proteins. Very little difference. 1gram in most cases.
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No, I didn't. Each brand has different ingredients. I make bread at home. I use water and wheat flour. You can buy lots of brands like that. We are talking about wheat bread, not Aunt Millie's shit they are allowed to market because the FDA has bad labeling practice.
I'm not pretending all wheat bread is the same anyhow. But wheat, unless infused with cancer, is always better than non-wheat products.
Simply because something has the same grams and vitamins does not mean it does the same thing in your body. Since you cannot understand this, I will write it all big and lol
Simply because something has the same grams and vitamins does not mean it does the same thing in your body.\
No. You are wrong. WRONG. wrong. -5 points for a dumb analogy. Since when is length and energy even in the same bio-mechanical ballpark?
If a calorie was just a calorie, I would sit on my ass and eat zebra cakes all day instead of chicken. Do you think a calorie is just a calorie to someone with peanut allergies?
"lol it says it's got 14g of fat, just like this hamburger, I guess the ingredients don't matte--OH SHI' I'VE GOT HIVES AND AM DYING, WHY DID I USE J's LOGIC AND END UP IN THE HOSPITAL WITH AN EPI PEN IN MY HEART."
Biochemically speaking, the ingredients interact different in your body, even if they are protein, carbs, or fats.
Right, and if your bread is loaded with 17g of high-fructose corn syrup (despite just being 'a carb') it will be different than if you consume 17g of wheat pasta.
I am right, you are wrong. My experience trumps yours, and my dick is also bigger. Thanks for playing.
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"No. You are wrong. WRONG. wrong. -5 points for a dumb analogy. Since when is length and energy even in the same bio-mechanical ballpark?"
-10 for not knowing what a calorie is. But ok if you want an analogy with energy terms I'll rephrase: It's like saying a Joule is not a Joule. So your so very wrong. 1 calorie from fat IS = to 1 calorie of sugar. Just as 1 Joule of electricity IS = to 1 Joule of heat transfer. Come back when you know more about SI terms and what they mean. NEXT.
"Simply because something has the same grams and vitamins" So 1 gram of Vit C from an Orange is different from 1 gram of Vit C from Apple. Sorry, no matter were the gram comes from Vit C will act the same way.
"I make bread at home. I use water and wheat flour"
HEY EVERYBODY Buy Nomad brand breads it's the most nutritious thing on the planet. kuz hez makz breadz at homez. -- you tart.
norly?
A calorie is a unit of energy. It makes a big difference where this energy comes from. That's why they put on the labels things like "calories from fat" because calories that come from fat are WAY worse for you than calories that come from, oh, say wheat. I agree with (and write this down people, it may never happen again) Nomad. You're all sorts of wrong.
Jeff, you are going by the strict definition. The point here is that your body does care where that calorie comes from, not just that is "is a calorie".
a calorie is a unit of heat required to raise the temperature of 1 kilogram of water 1 degree Celsius at a specified temperature.
I'm positive that when they say a calories from wheat is better than a calorie from fat it's because of the bi-products after the calorie is used up or how they get stored when you don't use the calorie. Don't get confuse with energy transfer and mass.
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it seems to me the no one wants to look at the nutrition label.
They don't though. Such a pity.
Your metabolism doesn't give two shits about what the label says. Nine grams of 100% whole wheat flour is digested vastly differently from nine grams of bleached flour. From how much energy the body can recruit from every gram, to what sugars are produced, to how much insulin responds, to how much glycogen is generated, every step of the metabolic process varies.
But again, wheat vs. white doesn't apply when you pick crap bread.