What GPU? I didn't have any issues other than seemingly slower response times to turn it off and not liking the way you did it (right-click menus vs buttons in FAH GPU Tracker). You can either just fold SMP on v7 and GPUs using systray client or something like FAH GPU Tracker (what I'm currently using on two machines).
@csimon I've been using v7 to fold on my GPU, haven't had any issues.
Idunno what's the deal *shrugs*. I've been using it for SMP but when I combine it with GPU it craps. I haven't tried GPU alone yet. I may try that next. Maybe the case interior is overheating or something ...who knows. It gets wicked hot in there even with all of the ventilation I have.
It certainly might be artifacting due to heat, but try this. Similar interface and equally easy to setup. I like having the one client that runs everything rather than multiple things hiding in systray.
It will set most of the stuff for you, but for a 570, you just need to make sure it is indicated as fermi and you can setup big packet size and turn advanced on. If you get EUEs, try turning off advanced, then changing packet size (much less likely unless there is actually a problem with your card). You could also do some temperature logging and use either built-in fan profile or something like MSI Afterburner to make your cooling more aggressive. I currently have one 180 (maybe smaller) in front, a 200 on top, 120 on back, and another 120 in the case just blowing air directly over the two cards I have folding. Massive temp drop from the directed air.
I folded only GPU last night and it went well but that is typical. The tell tale is during the day while I am at work ...it's usually not corrupt until I get home. This inclines me to believe it's a thermal issue. But I'm wondering if it's the GPU or the memory. The gpu fan only turns at 50% when folding and the temps are around 80c. The case temps get as hot as 45c when both cpu & gpu fold.
So what I'm thinking is that if may try moving an internal direct fan from mosfets to ram. It's worth a shot possibly.
At the moment I am running stock clients w/ no flags set ...no advanced, just to ensure that's not the cause.
If you are letting it go during the day while away, have a fan profile for that time and let it run way higher. I noticed EUEs starting as low as 70c on my 570
No dust in case or on case fans and/or filters for them??? I am hoping not, but feel all bases need covering. Even if this helps only others, I think it is worth a mention.
Note, nights tend to be cooler than days. Cooler room at night with fans on blowing air through case will mean cooler case temp then and better folding.
No dust in case or on case fans and/or filters for them??? I am hoping not, but feel all bases need covering. Even if this helps only others, I think it is worth a mention.
Note, nights tend to be cooler than days. Cooler room at night with fans on blowing air through case will mean cooler case temp then and better folding.
No dust whatsoever. The build is 1 month old and has been cleaned again recently. You're right though ...worth the mention. And yes, nights are quite cooler than days when no one is home.
45C is high, I try for an average of 35C max even in Florida, so here is something else unmentioned -- fan volume is a factor of combined fan blade rotation speed, shape of fan blades (scoop blades can grab and push more air than flat blades if just semi-scoop (best)), and size of fan. I use 4-5 blade fans with ball bearing or liquid suspension and have 5 or so per build down in Florida (and buy cases accoringly).
Another thing, I think it is more likely the GPU cooling or GRAM temp that is bad/excessive(too extreme such that it is heating case). Can you control a case fan that blows on the video card with a conductive type thermal temp sensor placed right on the GPU heatsink?? The sets that do this are cheap now that enthusiasts have a lot of liquid cooling available economically more (volume production always lowers cost per unit.
Don't mind me if you've checked and/or tried all this, I tend to worry a system problem until it is fixed as cheaply as possible :) Been doiing this for 30+ years, so know environment factors play big into temp.
Ok it folded all night and day on the GPU with no issues. I did not check the GPU temps at full load so nothing to report there but right now I'm sitting at 35c idle. It's still cooling down from the day of folding though.
So isn't this card supposed to automatically raise the fan speed when it gets hot? I mean 50% fan speed on 100% load for 12 hours doesn't seem right to me ...although it is nice and quiet the way that I like it.
On another note ...I did reroute the fan onto the dimms so we'll see if that makes a difference too.
I cranked up the case fans a little and set the GPU fan a little higher for the night. It folded well all through the night. What I noticed most was that the CPU maintained 48c, case 38c, & GPU 69c ...which is way better than before. However, I am still looking at an EUE on the SMP, but that could be anyones guess.
I always had weird behavior from stock fan control, so I use MSI afterburner with a more aggressive curve to keep it cool. I also don't have it in my bedroom, so noise level doesn't really matter to me.
Was it just one EUE or a series? If just one, don't worry. If a series, then something isn't stable.
45C on a GTX 570 is not high, in fact 45C on that card under full load would be great. With that said, I still believe that the temps could be better.
Sorry, I thought for some reason he meant CASE was 45C. My BAD! :)
Yes John, in fact the case temps at one point did reach as high as 45C and my warning light came on. But that was back when I was folding advmethods and my fan bios setings we all set on "silent" for noise purposes. It just wasn't adequate.
So what I've done is reset all of the fans to a "standard" setting. This brings each to about 1350rpm wereas "silent" was only about 1100rpm. It makes quite a difference in cfm and cooling and the noise is endurable.
I have an extra filtered fan mount that I will hook up as soon as I can mod off the front to make it fit into the case. It's a Lian Li part that I picked up that I scratched when I tried to mount it. The vendor said it was compatible but he lied. When I wrote him about it and sent pics he said it was too scratched to return ...and recommended that I just drill holes in the side to mount it. Sorry for the rant. With the front off I will be able to mount it easily.
At any rate ...all was going well until I tried "advmethods" last night with the new setup. It EUE'd another SMP WU and the console was not funtional. I will run w/o advanced settings until I'm surely stable again.
Tushon, yes it was only one or two EUE's. I don't usually get those on my other boxen.
Post some of your log with the EUE error.
How do I do that in V7? I can go to the log tab in V7 and cut n paste what I see but the EUE is long from there since it happened.
Thanks for everyones help ...it's very encouraging.
Ok, I tried. I think I am over my head. Since you appear to have followed Tushon's guide, retrace the name of the file directory your FAH program is in and look for fahlog.txt. That file, if LOG area the thing lets you see shows anything, is where the view is from.
I am not yet folding now, though next month near end of month plan to have a dedicated rig Folding only (not a big powerful one, it will have a i7 2300 CPU only. That is much better than killing my current laptop with Folding full time (it sleeps or hibernates most of the time, truely impractical to fold on it). Got a Newegg bundle to start things off already (some parts here Tuesday, possibly case will arrive Wednesday).
I did find a log file but it was located where I wouldn't have expected it ...there may be another but I have no clue as to where to find it. Trust me John, the V7 is much different than any prior client. At any rate, it was located in the User>Csimon>AppData>Roaming>FAHClient folder. It only contained the same thing I can view from the log of the console so no big deal. No EUE there.
I modded the front of the case with a fan that was rerouted from the internal part of the case ...it was directed at the ram. Needless to say it dropped case temps drastically as now the case is only at 33C with both SMP and GPU clients running. This is a big 5C difference. And the fan is only set to run at 50% for now.
Ok how do I upload pics on this newfangled board???
Um.... I use a host myself and link to strategy... Click the picture icon and you get in post. Between the quotes, type in where on the web it is, including file name and extension. Someone did that for me in my thread about the old laptop with Linux on it. I put text in over one picture. I had stuck in raw file links. I used .jpg files.
Here's a tout for the new forum, "Supporters" get an "Attach a File" link.... One of the perks.
Upload pics to imgur, then use the little picture "link" to fill in the appropriate HTML markup and paste the link in spot were cursor will go automatically.
Sorry for the blur & clustermeche. This gives you a good ide of the cooling I've got going on inside. Really hard to keep it quiet sometimes.
My case is actually still that temp even though I have been folding an advanced SMP for about two hours now. Very cool inside now compared to what it was this morning.
The temps above were idle at the time ...case temp full load SMP last I checked was the same.
So, I played around with the Ubuntu v7 client. What a crock of shit that experience was: there is no configuration questions like v6, no GUI to do that like the Windows client, so you can either write your own XML config file or pass every option as a command line function to the service. Yuck....
So, I played around with the Ubuntu v7 client. What a crock of shit that experience was: there is no configuration questions like v6, no GUI to do that like the Windows client, so you can either write your own XML config file or pass every option as a command line function to the service. Yuck....
My son ...if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, chances are ...it's a shit client.
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What's FAH Tracker?
It will set most of the stuff for you, but for a 570, you just need to make sure it is indicated as fermi and you can setup big packet size and turn advanced on. If you get EUEs, try turning off advanced, then changing packet size (much less likely unless there is actually a problem with your card). You could also do some temperature logging and use either built-in fan profile or something like MSI Afterburner to make your cooling more aggressive. I currently have one 180 (maybe smaller) in front, a 200 on top, 120 on back, and another 120 in the case just blowing air directly over the two cards I have folding. Massive temp drop from the directed air.
So what I'm thinking is that if may try moving an internal direct fan from mosfets to ram. It's worth a shot possibly.
At the moment I am running stock clients w/ no flags set ...no advanced, just to ensure that's not the cause.
Note, nights tend to be cooler than days. Cooler room at night with fans on blowing air through case will mean cooler case temp then and better folding.
Another thing, I think it is more likely the GPU cooling or GRAM temp that is bad/excessive(too extreme such that it is heating case). Can you control a case fan that blows on the video card with a conductive type thermal temp sensor placed right on the GPU heatsink?? The sets that do this are cheap now that enthusiasts have a lot of liquid cooling available economically more (volume production always lowers cost per unit.
Don't mind me if you've checked and/or tried all this, I tend to worry a system problem until it is fixed as cheaply as possible :) Been doiing this for 30+ years, so know environment factors play big into temp.
So isn't this card supposed to automatically raise the fan speed when it gets hot? I mean 50% fan speed on 100% load for 12 hours doesn't seem right to me ...although it is nice and quiet the way that I like it.
On another note ...I did reroute the fan onto the dimms so we'll see if that makes a difference too.
Was it just one EUE or a series? If just one, don't worry. If a series, then something isn't stable.
So what I've done is reset all of the fans to a "standard" setting. This brings each to about 1350rpm wereas "silent" was only about 1100rpm. It makes quite a difference in cfm and cooling and the noise is endurable.
I have an extra filtered fan mount that I will hook up as soon as I can mod off the front to make it fit into the case. It's a Lian Li part that I picked up that I scratched when I tried to mount it. The vendor said it was compatible but he lied. When I wrote him about it and sent pics he said it was too scratched to return ...and recommended that I just drill holes in the side to mount it. Sorry for the rant. With the front off I will be able to mount it easily.
At any rate ...all was going well until I tried "advmethods" last night with the new setup. It EUE'd another SMP WU and the console was not funtional. I will run w/o advanced settings until I'm surely stable again.
Tushon, yes it was only one or two EUE's. I don't usually get those on my other boxen.
How do I do that in V7? I can go to the log tab in V7 and cut n paste what I see but the EUE is long from there since it happened.
Thanks for everyones help ...it's very encouraging.
I am not yet folding now, though next month near end of month plan to have a dedicated rig Folding only (not a big powerful one, it will have a i7 2300 CPU only. That is much better than killing my current laptop with Folding full time (it sleeps or hibernates most of the time, truely impractical to fold on it). Got a Newegg bundle to start things off already (some parts here Tuesday, possibly case will arrive Wednesday).
John.
I modded the front of the case with a fan that was rerouted from the internal part of the case ...it was directed at the ram. Needless to say it dropped case temps drastically as now the case is only at 33C with both SMP and GPU clients running. This is a big 5C difference. And the fan is only set to run at 50% for now.
Ok how do I upload pics on this newfangled board???
Here's a tout for the new forum, "Supporters" get an "Attach a File" link.... One of the perks.
My case is actually still that temp even though I have been folding an advanced SMP for about two hours now. Very cool inside now compared to what it was this morning.
The temps above were idle at the time ...case temp full load SMP last I checked was the same.