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Lincoln

Snapperhead

16,163 Posts

23 Mar 2005, 6:00am

Prospective Team Member Guide

What Folding@Home is: A Stanford University project to find out how proteins fold.

Why it's important: Proteins folding wrong causes all kinds of diseases, like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and forms of cancer. We're fueling research that could end all that.

How it works: You download a safe, tested program that is certified by Stanford University. It gets work from Stanford, runs calculations using your spare computer power, and sends the results back to the University.

Is it safe? Yes! Folding@Home rarely effects computer performance in any way and won't compromise your privacy in any way. A study was done on F@H's effect on a computer. It only uses the computing power you aren't using so it doesn't slow down other programs.

Check out this video about Folding@Home!

How can I start folding? Check out this quick-and-dirty guide we made on downloading and setting up Folding@Home. Be sure to post any questions you have!

There's no reason to not get involved! It's free, easy, and you can know you're helping every minute without lifting a finger.

For more information, check out the Everything About Folding@Home thread. Also, PLEASE start a new thread to say hello and/or ask ANY question you have! We're an extremely friendly bunch and will be very happy to hear from you.

Thanks for helping such a great cause! You're doing good!

If anyone is having problems setting up the program or have any questions, please make a new thread so we can help you better.

If you decide to join the team, get a quick orientation to the team and say hello!

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Duboids

FLHW Reviewer

3 Posts

24 Mar 2005, 9:23pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Well a long time ago I was folding for you guys but currently my cores go to folding for Ancient. But folding is a great cause and for anyone that leaves their PC on all the time anyway it might as well be folding.....

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primesuspect

The Icrontic Guy

28,248 Posts

24 Mar 2005, 9:25pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

That's exactly what we've been saying: Why WOULDN'T you fold?

Thanks for stopping in!

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profdlp

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21,407 Posts

24 Mar 2005, 9:56pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Hey, Duboids - that's the main thing.

Choosing Team 93 is just gravy (for us) after that.

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TBonZ

Veteran Icrontian

3,450 Posts

24 Mar 2005, 10:23pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Quoting Duboids

Well a long time ago I was folding for you guys but currently my cores go to folding for Ancient. But folding is a great cause and for anyone that leaves their PC on all the time anyway it might as well be folding.....

Hey Duboids, long time no see. Hope all is going well with you.

Thanks for stopping in and endorsing the project.

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Duboids

FLHW Reviewer

3 Posts

24 Mar 2005, 11:37pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Thanks all and you have a great team. Good to see you are recruiting. It is for a great cause no matter who you fold for, like some one here said Cancer sucks and has taken a lot of peoples lives....

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cubur99

New to the neighborhood

1 Posts

25 Mar 2005, 8:57am

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Hello

I would like to help in this project but I only have computer at work and it is not on all the time,it is on from 08:00 to 18:00.Would that be of any help?

Cubur99

Quoting General Keebler

What Folding@Home is: A Stanford University project to find out how proteins fold.

Why it's important: Proteins folding wrong causes all kinds of diseases, like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and forms of cancer. We're fueling research that could end all that.

How it works: You download a safe, tested program that is certified by Stanford University. It gets work from Stanford, runs calculations using your spare computer power, and sends the results back to the University.

Is it safe? Yes! Folding@Home rarely effects computer performance in any way and won't compromise your privacy in any way. A study was done on F@H's effect on a computer. It only uses the computing power you aren't using so it doesn't slow down other programs.

Check out this video about Folding@Home!

How can I start folding? Check out this quick-and-dirty guide we made on downloading and setting up Folding@Home. Be sure to post any questions you have!

There's no reason to not get involved! It's free, easy, and you can know you're helping every minute without lifting a finger.

For more information, check out the Everything About Folding@Home thread. Also, PLEASE start a new thread to say hello and/or ask ANY question you have! We're an extremely friendly bunch and will be very happy to hear from you.

Thanks for helping such a great cause! You're doing good!

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dragonV8

RIP SM

3,935 Posts

25 Mar 2005, 9:10am

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

cubur99..........thanks for stopping by. It does NOT matter whether you fold full-time or part-time. Everything helps towards finding a cure.

Quite a few people are only able to F

LD on a part-time basis. Add them all together and they become a force to be reckoned with.

It would be great if you could join in with Team #93. The more the merrier.

Jon

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tom_tx2001

Icrontic Regular

25 Posts

25 Mar 2005, 3:21pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

I just joined Team 93 using a 700Mhz AMD, W98SE. You guys helped me with my computer problems so at I can return the favor. To bad they don't have it for W95. I have two machines that are idle 99% of the time and running 100% of the time.
All I need to do now is find out what I'm working on. LOL

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dragonV8

RIP SM

3,935 Posts

25 Mar 2005, 4:06pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Welcome to THE team Tom.

My wife is the one that knows about setting up and how it works (she's "The handbrake)

. Cant ask as she is having a snooze.

I do know this bit though.
With the Graphical version (GUI) i right click on the red cog. Go to status and click logfile.
Near the top you will find something like this.

[13:14:43] Protein: p1275_proj1275_A21ext_d19_99phi

This Work Unit is a P1275.
Hoping you can do this too, go to this link, scroll down till you find the protein you are working on.

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/psummary.html

1275 171.65.103.155 p1275_proj1275_A21ext_d19_99phi 11828 10.00 14.00 46.00 100 GROMACS Description esorin

At the top of the page it explains each column. The 46 i made bold is the value in points.

Hope this is of some help for you.

Jon

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dragonV8 edited : 25 Mar 2005 at 4:09pm . Reason: spelling

primesuspect

The Icrontic Guy

28,248 Posts

25 Mar 2005, 4:56pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Thanks for joining the team, everyone! This is fantastic

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tom_tx2001

Icrontic Regular

25 Posts

25 Mar 2005, 5:12pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

DragonV8,

Thanks for the information. Not to worried about the points. I did find out what I am working on.
I sent emails to most of my contact list with the invite to join.
Thanks
tom

These projects study the unfolding pathway of a p53 dimer. P53 is a tumor suppressor protein whose disfunction is implicated in over 50% of human cancers. A series of other projects in combination with this project may shed light on the process by which four copies of p53 come together to form the active complex.

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dragonV8

RIP SM

3,935 Posts

25 Mar 2005, 5:27pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Quoting tom_tx2001

DragonV8,

Thanks for the information. Not to worried about the points. I did find out what I am working on.
I sent emails to most of my contact list with the invite to join.
Thanks
tom

These projects study the unfolding pathway of a p53 dimer. P53 is a tumor suppressor protein whose disfunction is implicated in over 50% of human cancers. A series of other projects in combination with this project may shed light on the process by which four copies of p53 come together to form the active complex.

And here i was giving you some info, which in comparison pales by your knowledge.

You have a good way of explaining.

Always interested learning something new. (hard part is remembering).

Like most people that F

LD, we do it for the right reasons. Humanity and the well being of mankind. It's the points that have a nice competitive side effect and give it a different interest.

Jon

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TBonZ

Veteran Icrontian

3,450 Posts

25 Mar 2005, 7:12pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Welcome to the Team cubur99 & tom_tx2001 and thanks so much for your support.

Hey guys, is there not a client that is compatible for 95? Have you tried the 98 program Tom?

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red777

Icrontic Technician

50 Posts

25 Mar 2005, 8:56pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

hi guys signed up do i auto join this folding team or is their something else i gotta do
thanx red777

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profdlp

Off To The Gym

21,407 Posts

25 Mar 2005, 9:10pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Quoting red777

hi guys signed up do i auto join this folding team or is their something else i gotta do
thanx red777

The only requirement to be a full member of Team 93 with all the rights and privileges thereof is to download the Folding client appropriate for your needs and run it. Assuming you've done that, you are all set.

Welcome to the FUN bunch, red!

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primesuspect

The Icrontic Guy

28,248 Posts

25 Mar 2005, 9:11pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

And make sure you type "93" when you are asked for your team number

Welcome to the team!

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tom_tx2001

Icrontic Regular

25 Posts

25 Mar 2005, 9:16pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Quoting TBonZ

Welcome to the Team cubur99 & tom_tx2001 and thanks so much for your support.

Hey guys, is there not a client that is compatible for 95? Have you tried the 98 program Tom?

TBonZ,
No I have not tried yet but I will.
Question: What is the line in the display window below the WU progress�

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red777

Icrontic Technician

50 Posts

25 Mar 2005, 10:05pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

hi where do i get team home page and team logo
thanx

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tom_tx2001

Icrontic Regular

25 Posts

25 Mar 2005, 11:49pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Quoting TBonZ

Welcome to the Team cubur99 & tom_tx2001 and thanks so much for your support.

Hey guys, is there not a client that is compatible for 95? Have you tried the 98 program Tom?

TBonZ

The 98 version work on 95 so far. Been running 15Min.

On the 98SE the WU progress would not update(0/2500)...then it(FAH) crashed. Fired it back up went to 19/2500 but since the crash it is updating.
Go figure

Thanks for the help

tom

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TBonZ

Veteran Icrontian

3,450 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 12:40am

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Quoting tom_tx2001

TBonZ,
No I have not tried yet but I will.
Question: What is the line in the display window below the WU progress�

That is a pie graph signifying the WU progress. There is a line to start and when your WU is completed there will be a whole circle. Glad to hear the 95 boxes are able to participate.

If Folding starts crashing, the usual culprits are a) too much overclock and/or b) temps are too high under full load.

red777 - Do you mean the folding banners we have in our sigs? Regarding the team page, do you mean our stats page? Let me know and I'll answer your question.

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Liquid81

Icrontic Duke of Haxor

200 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 10:18am

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

I also just joined.
I dont know why, but this seems cool as hell.
I am now folding on my 3.2 ghz main computer (high priority service), tonight I am sneaking it on my GFs laptop (she didnt want it for some reason), and 10 mins ago I bought 5 used Xboxs from ebay to mod- put linux on- and FOLD WITH THEM! I have this enclosed entertainment center from Ikea I am turning into an Xbox server rack. And I only joined 2 days ago. I am even regretting leaving my job as an IT guy for the Middlesex College. I could of had 70 computers folding proteins like oragami by now.

I have one question though. Is there a way to make FahCore use MORE CPU? Its so unintrusive on performance. I want to run dedicated machines that are doing nothing BUT Folding.

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dragonV8

RIP SM

3,935 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 10:55am

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

G'day Liquid81, welcome. Great to have you onboard for such a worthy cause.

My wife is the one who sets our computers up and has the (full) knowledge. We run mostly Intels, using HyperThreading.

Sally (the Handbrake) has set up 2 instances on each machine. 1 x GUI and 1 x Console. ID machine 1 and machine 2. As all they do is fold, there is nothing else to do but wait for the points to tally up. All full steam ahead. HyperThreading does NOT give you twice the points, however there is an increase % wise by doing 2 WU's.

The only time they will run less than full noise if a setting has been changed from 100% to say 70%. I would expect a normal installation will have them going as hard as they can, only slowing down somewhat through normal computer use, like me posting on the forum and surfing.

My AMD64 has 1 instance only as they don't HyperThread, however it does Work Units in pretty quick time.

Also more ram helps to get the BIG ones. Especially the newer ones as they tend to give bonus points. Just checked one of Sally's machines. It's a 3.2Gig, HyperThreading, 2x515 Meg ram, running at 3608Mhz. Must have raised the FSB. More power, more WU's.

Any questions at all, there are some very experienced people here. Folding, computers, you name it, there is help.

F

LD on.

Jon

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Liquid81

Icrontic Duke of Haxor

200 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 11:04am

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Coool. Wasn't expecting a reply at 4:35 am! That rules. I am going to install the GUI immediatley, thanx for the tip.

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dragonV8

RIP SM

3,935 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 11:15am

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Quoting Liquid81

Coool. Wasn't expecting a reply at 4:35 am! That rules. I am going to install the GUI immediatley, thanx for the tip.

4:35 am!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's (now) 5:50 pm here. Perth, west coast of Australia.

Short-Medians are everywhere.

A worldly lot.

Make sure your computer has HT enabled in the bios, unless it was already so.

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bothered

pondering and wandering along

4,548 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 2:38pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Quoting red777

hi where do i get team home page and team logo
thanx

Don't know if this is what you want but I go here to see how I'm doing - http://folding.extremeoverclocking.c...hp?s=&t=93&p=3

Liquid81, you can get help at S-M 24 hours a day, the sun never sets at Short-Media.
Nice to see so many joining a great cause.

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tom_tx2001

Icrontic Regular

25 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 2:56pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Running one of the W95 over night. 233Mhz laptop. Did not up date the progress.
Shut it down and fired it back up and the progress updated to 24/2500.
Well have to see if it to will update after a restart.
The W98 is still updating after the crash. Now at 3% 75/2500
Do you think it would be worth it to fire it up on W95 166Mhz?

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bothered

pondering and wandering along

4,548 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 3:03pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Those figures aren't 'updating'. That's your progress. It can take a day or two to complete a work unit, those figures are how much of the current work unit has been completed. And yes, it's worth folding on anything, every little helps.

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bothered

pondering and wandering along

4,548 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 3:12pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

General Keebler, I have sent emails out with links to this thread to try and get people interested. I know some of these people will read the first post so I have a request\suggestion, Could you make the links in the first post a different colour so they stand out as links? Unless people wave their mouse over the post it may not be obvious that there are links in there.
Cheers.

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mmonnin

Veteran Icrontian

10,545 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 4:56pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Liquid: Folding will use all your computing power. It will take any spare computing cycles that the computer doesnt need for anything else. Putting it at high priority wont really help it much.

Let us know how the XBOX thing works out. I dont know of anyone else here that has done that. Then you could write a guide for us or something.

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Liquid81

Icrontic Duke of Haxor

200 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 6:34pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Will do as soon as it dones. I thought the Xbox would be perfect because it doesnt use as much power as a PC, and works almost as hard.

As for the High priority, it didnt look like it made a difference to me either. It just frustrating to open my task manager and see my CPU slacking off. It says 51% is being used by FahCore_78 and the rest is system idle process. Wish there was a way to make system idle like 20%.

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dragonV8

RIP SM

3,935 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 6:56pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Liquid, if you set up 2 instances of folding with Hyper Threading enabled, you should see 2 cores running.

Here is a screenshot of one of Sally's computers. Gives you an idea of what to look for. In case you are not familiar, bring up task manager/ click processes/ click CPU twice to bring the cores to the top.

If you only see one, something needs checking. Just need to make sure you only have one GUI. The other one needs to be a console. (can't have 2 GUI's).

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primesuspect

The Icrontic Guy

28,248 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 7:09pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Welcome to the team, liquid81. How did you find us?

You may not realize it yet, but you just joined a very tight-knit world community. We definitely take care of our own

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Liquid81

Icrontic Duke of Haxor

200 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 7:23pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

I feel I made the right choice in joining you guys. I build computers as a side business, and from now on every machine that leaves my shop will be folding for you guys (with their permission of course)

I got the email you guys sent to everyone and was so moved I read Stanford's entire Folding website. Then installed it.

I am using Hyper-threading, but I am running 2 text only consoles. I like the no-nonsense feel of it. Do I HAVE to have one GUI and one console? Seems to be working with 2 text only.

Dragon, I saw Electron Microscope somewhere but don't remember where. Do you have a link? And is there a Linux version?

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Liquid81

Icrontic Duke of Haxor

200 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 7:25pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

I now have my windows machine setup up so one Core is using 50% and the other 24%. The remaining 26% is for system idle process.

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Liquid81

Icrontic Duke of Haxor

200 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 7:30pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Dragon, I saw Electron Microscope somewhere but don't remember where. Do you have a link? And is there a Linux version?

Disregard that noob question. I found it.

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stik

New to the neighborhood

3 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 7:59pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Noob here. Been out of the loop of computer for quiet some time due to picking up guitar and WoW. but besides that this is an extremely good cuase and would like to help but have no idea how to set this thing up, what folding is, etc. So I will be checking out the page provided in the first thread and will go from there Great Cause will support as best i can!

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dragonV8

RIP SM

3,935 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 8:25pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Liquid, just to confirm. IF you like the GUI, great, but you can only run 1.

If you rather the no-nonsense set-up, run 2 of these. To clarify.....Only run 1 GUI and 1 console or as an alternative, 2 consoles.

EMIII and I don't see eye to eye for some reason. Just as well the Handbrake worked it out.

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dragonV8

RIP SM

3,935 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 8:36pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Hi stik. Great to have you onboard with the BEST team and forum.

Any questions you may have about folding, like how to set it up, what does what, etc, fire away. Lots of knowledge to be found here. Not just folding, but anything. Computers, music, cars, all sorts.

When you do set up folding, make sure you put down number 93 for team Short-Media.

Thanks for wanting to assist in F

LDING for humanity.

LD on.

Jon

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primesuspect

The Icrontic Guy

28,248 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 8:59pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

This is awesome. I honestly didn't expect such a great response to the email. Thanks for joining, everyone!

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profdlp

Off To The Gym

21,407 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 9:20pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

For all you new folks, (and those returning to Team 93 after a layoff), keep an eye on the Notable Milestones Forum. We honor each teammate individually for 1,000 points, 2K, 3K, 4K, etc. The awards spread out a little after 5,000 points, but get even neater as you go along.

We appreciate each and every one of you.

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mmonnin

Veteran Icrontian

10,545 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 9:27pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Welcome stik. The quick and dirty guide is a short and simple explanation way to set up FAH.

Liquid81: Make sure to have both processes at the same priority. Having one at high and another on Nomal or Low might make it not use the full potential of your HT P4. Plus make sure they are both at Low or both at Idle in the FAH setup.

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primesuspect

The Icrontic Guy

28,248 Posts

26 Mar 2005, 9:56pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Here's a team 93 fold for life wallpaper I made. If anybody wants any custom resolutions, let me know, I have the source files.

1024x768

1280x1024

1440x900

1600x1200

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Lincoln

Snapperhead

16,163 Posts

29 Mar 2005, 2:13am

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Quoting bothered

Could you make the links in the first post a different colour so they stand out as links?

I've made them bright blue so they'll be more obvious. Sorry I didn't reply sooner; I forgot this thread was unlocked

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securitywonks

Getting settled in

6 Posts

29 Mar 2005, 11:19am

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

what is the SHORT-MEDIA team number??????

I had installed it, something is running out there, I find red coloured gear like thing in the tray location.

SETI@HOME is more comfortable having, this is slightly confusing to me, may be I am in hurry to see how it works,

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dragonV8

RIP SM

3,935 Posts

29 Mar 2005, 1:21pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Team# 93, securitywonks.

Thanks for joining in.

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stik

New to the neighborhood

3 Posts

29 Mar 2005, 4:09pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

I am pretty sure that it is not working for me. Followed the quick setup guide but how can i be sure that it is up and running, is there a monitor? did i even download the right client from the download page...well i dont recall the name but it was the newest release 5.02 i believe. Let me know ASAP so i can become something other then last in the folding race

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Kwitko

Sheriff of Dicktown

6,646 Posts

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29 Mar 2005, 5:03pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

There's a free F@H monitor called Electron Microscope. Alternately, you can check the FAHlog.txt in the folder where you installed the client.

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Lincoln

Snapperhead

16,163 Posts

29 Mar 2005, 5:14pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

If you installed as a service, it hides itself on purpose so it's not in your way. Kwitko's suggestions are excellent. The super-fast method to just make sure it's running is to hit ctrl+alt+del and click on Task Manager. There should be a process called FahCore with a number after it taking up 90-99% of your CPU. That means it's running

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tom_tx2001

Icrontic Regular

25 Posts

31 Mar 2005, 8:41pm

Re: The Prospective Folder Guide

Currently I have a W98 and a W95 folding their little cpus away.
I just installed FAH on a thired box(W95) but it said
FAH would not start because it could not find "opengl32.dll"
My question is, can I pull that .dll file from one W95 and put on another?

Any ideas on what it does also?

Thanks
Tom

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