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@oni_dels said:
well all this to say... im gonna buy a plain pale ale syrup, and buy cascade hops and do a dry hop and/or add it to the fermenting. i'll experiment a bit before going full grain.

it's like college. i'll fool around for a bit and see what i like

Can I make a suggestion? Try steeping 1 pound of Crystal 40 malt in a grain bag at 150°F for 30 minutes in a couple gallons of water before bringing it up to a boil. Adding specialty grains will allow you to customize the recipe to your own liking. If you want to mess around more, check out some popular specialty grains that you can steep in your wort.

Also, you might want to pick up 2 cans of syrup for a 5g batch - one can usually isn't enough.

As a reference, check out this Sierra Nevada Pale Ale clone recipe (PDF) - it's a straight forward pale ale with a bit of malt body. The specialty grains add the malt backbone and the later hop additions add the hop flavors and aromas.

@oni_dels said:
well all this to say... im gonna buy a plain pale ale syrup, and buy cascade hops and do a dry hop and/or add it to the fermenting. i'll experiment a bit before going full grain.

it's like college. i'll fool around for a bit and see what i like

Sounds like a tasty result is in your future.

In other news, I dry hopped some kombucha last week and tried it a couple days ago. While I probably had too much (many?) hops for the quantity of liquid, I think I've found a good mix of hops for a Tank 7 clone