All competition aside, it great to hear you're starting up a farm. If I ever catch one of those refurbed P4C's on newegg I'm gonna snatch those suckers up so fast, and eventually I'll probly have my own little farm in my room.
Al, I'm getting ready to sell a retail P4 2.6c, D1 stepping for a good price. Watch the depot in a couple of days. It's done 3450 with 1.7v vcore, but I ran it at 3.3 with 1.6v or so until I got my m0 stepping 2.4c, which overclocks even better.
That cpu I got from you now thinks it's a MP2600 and is happily residing in my watercooled Asus dually. It's lucky that I got it from you and Edcentric needed a pally proc and swapped me another tbred B because the other Tbred B 1700 I had didn't want to play smp worth a darn. My original 1700 I was going to run with yours is now residing in a friend's rig, folding for me at XP2600 speed.
How well do those m0's overclock? I'm actualy considering buying the 2.8E and overclocking it. Since that's cheaper than a guaranteed m0 and they, from what i've heard overclock very well (4GHz?).
I added a 2.4c @ 3.06Hgz yesterday, yet to turn in it's first WU. I forgot to add the flags first and got stuck with a 70 point Tinker, it still has 15 hours to go.. *sigh*. I optimized it just now, did a Windows Update, uninstalled Games, Outlook et al - trimmed the Services, turned off Automatic updates, System Restore, Sounds. Disabled useless ports and fixed the Swap File.
How well do those m0's overclock? I'm actualy considering buying the 2.8E and overclocking it. Since that's cheaper than a guaranteed m0 and they, from what i've heard overclock very well (4GHz?).
I'm only speaking about a sample of 1, but yes it overclocks better than my D1 2.6. I've had it up to 295 fsb (3540 MHz) but it wasn't quite stable with 1.65v vcore. I think that the instability is due to the extreme fsb speed with the stock hsf on the northbridge on my IC7-G. It might do higher than that if I bought something like that swiftech nb cooler or watercooled it though. If you want to go max speed I think the 2.8 m0 stepping would be better unless you are really into modding the mobo.
[H] had one of its motherboards get so hot that it melted plastic when O/C'ing a Prescott. Also, MSI (and this is documented on [H]) has taken vCore adjustments out of the most recent BIOS for the Prescott. You might want to reconsider a Prescott purchase until some of these issues have been resolved, either by BIOS updates or with Intel releasing new chipsets (Grantsdale?).
How well do those m0's overclock? I'm actualy considering buying the 2.8E and overclocking it. Since that's cheaper than a guaranteed m0 and they, from what i've heard overclock very well (4GHz?).
A2J, the m0 is a Northwood stepping, not a PressHot.:D They overclock just fine and actually run a little cooler than the D1 stepping Northwoods as they are using the new bonding process between the IHS and core like the Prescott is using.
I'm not sure what you mean. How many people to we have folding? Around 230 I think... our "points per person" ration is one of the highest in the project though. Check out the stats section in the "Everything about F@H" thread that's stickied in this forum
A2J, the m0 is a Northwood stepping, not a PressHot.:D They overclock just fine and actually run a little cooler than the D1 stepping Northwoods as they are using the new bonding process between the IHS and core like the Prescott is using.
We have between 100-200 very active forum members in our little community, almost all of whom fold. We have a very small team and a small site overall despite the fact that we are a top 10 folding producer. That is why I love this site and this team so much - those other sites above us in the top 10 have THOUSANDS of users, and they are huge sites. We have a highly efficient, organized, and dedicated team and we are able to hang with those huge sites because of it.
Funny thing is, though sometimes we do not all know it, it is not an empire. It is a community. There are enough of us older folks to reign in things when they get real edgy, and this place, IMHO, is just about the best community of virtual tech sort I have ever hung out in-- for a long time now. In my case, that means in about 2 decades. Previous most favored hangout was AskMe's website, it was a forum of forums, and I hung out in the IT areas (like twenty of the two hundred of those). AskMe had finally betatested and proved by doing, they finally took the site down, though they have it archived for customers who want to see what they built and how it worked. I have about 1500 posts on that archive-- 1\4 of them longer than any post here other than articles. I hung out there off and on for about 2 years. Here, I want to be able to be hanging out here a decade from now.
Maybe this sounds strange, but I like it here. Folks are basicly polite, get pissed off at things and not each other so much. And we are ALL ready to learn and at least try to help. And we are dang good folders, which is why we are in the top ten of teams and probably will be in number 7 spot within one calendar year at the far OUTSIDE of probability.
Part of what makes this site work is teamwork, we pitch in with ideas that at least might relate, or give ideas on how to find out what the error symptom isd really casued by in a box. We're all different in how we approach things-- that is good, cuz one of us might be right but the others are using what they have dealt with to handle similar things in the past to help.
Wildest hairy thing about this site, is that it has NEVER broken a profit, so by def it is not a corporate empire like Ziff-Davis media. That is good for the end user and budding system admin. We do not have to think so much about pocketbook and how what we say might hurt advertising-- I try not to tell producers that contribute to IT to go to heck, but will point out where they need to improve things, as without that things will NOT improve.
The other part of individuals in IT is that they want their boxes to do what they want to accomplish in the way that they each can work best. "I do not like this idea," or "I do not understand" can be tempered with respect for each other and what we each CAN and DO accomplish with our boxes. This site has that feel. Most of the admins and mods are experienced in at least some facet of IT, and most if not all hang near the edge of the industry.
This site is rapidly becoming what I hoped for from Prime, Shorty, and MediaMan. I can safely say that mediaman specializes in media, has a degree in that area, and is one heck of a good enthusiast who has very good potential as a system admin of great caliber. HE knows how to say what he means. Like me, he is not always right for the one isolated error being fixed.
So, here is the other side of what the others have said-- there are enough of us to hang in and get the job doen over the long term that this site will not vaporize in the next year or two barring hollocuast. Everyone that not knock others when he does not know why someone made the point wiull be and stay welcome here. Folks starting to ask "why did you say that" instead of "that cannot be true." We are just big enough to grow and kick tails of those with less dedicated folks-- and I for one want to see that happen, not for my own prestige but for the sake of the community here.
In the case of the folding team, for the case of biting cancer where it hurts more and more ways and eventually preventing more and more cancer. Little bit of friendly competition, if folks do not take it personal, is good for folding and the team.
This site has that kind of folks. I was a stranger, but they learned I not only mean business but that the wild hairy ideas I have might just actually fix someone's box or help someone else reading the thread to fix what gives same error for different reasons on THIER box.
My fingers do not like typing. But my mind works, and so do the minds of those here, both corporately and individually-- all different but that is both part of life and welcome as we each see better into different parts of a problem.
If you want to understand me, I hang as a multiskilled IT generalist. And understanding is a large part of respect. And mutual respect makes a site hang and last well.
Empire not needed, community is needed. Welcome to this one, please be as big a part of it as you want so long as you keep in mind that we respect as much as we are respected, some of us.
John D-- who has been writing about IT in soem way as long as he has been playing with IT things, though not always perfectly right and not often for money. BTW, this was not paid for, I am not the public relations guy here, and I am a user who happened a few times to to jabber with a guy who became one of the owners of this site. And I have ripped on details as much as I have praised things-- figured, in this case, "Let's balance the input some."
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PS go with the 2100, much better overclocker
That cpu I got from you now thinks it's a MP2600 and is happily residing in my watercooled Asus dually. It's lucky that I got it from you and Edcentric needed a pally proc and swapped me another tbred B because the other Tbred B 1700 I had didn't want to play smp worth a darn. My original 1700 I was going to run with yours is now residing in a friend's rig, folding for me at XP2600 speed.
I'm only speaking about a sample of 1, but yes it overclocks better than my D1 2.6. I've had it up to 295 fsb (3540 MHz) but it wasn't quite stable with 1.65v vcore. I think that the instability is due to the extreme fsb speed with the stock hsf on the northbridge on my IC7-G. It might do higher than that if I bought something like that swiftech nb cooler or watercooled it though. If you want to go max speed I think the 2.8 m0 stepping would be better unless you are really into modding the mobo.
Another guy ahs been WAY down for 2 weeks
Those 2 guys pretty much account for their recent loss of production.
I'm not sure what you mean. How many people to we have folding? Around 230 I think... our "points per person" ration is one of the highest in the project though. Check out the stats section in the "Everything about F@H" thread that's stickied in this forum
Let us know how your 2600+ XP-M O/C's and how your m0 O/C's.
We have between 100-200 very active forum members in our little community, almost all of whom fold. We have a very small team and a small site overall despite the fact that we are a top 10 folding producer. That is why I love this site and this team so much - those other sites above us in the top 10 have THOUSANDS of users, and they are huge sites. We have a highly efficient, organized, and dedicated team and we are able to hang with those huge sites because of it.
Thanks for joining our little team
Funny thing is, though sometimes we do not all know it, it is not an empire. It is a community. There are enough of us older folks to reign in things when they get real edgy, and this place, IMHO, is just about the best community of virtual tech sort I have ever hung out in-- for a long time now. In my case, that means in about 2 decades. Previous most favored hangout was AskMe's website, it was a forum of forums, and I hung out in the IT areas (like twenty of the two hundred of those). AskMe had finally betatested and proved by doing, they finally took the site down, though they have it archived for customers who want to see what they built and how it worked. I have about 1500 posts on that archive-- 1\4 of them longer than any post here other than articles. I hung out there off and on for about 2 years. Here, I want to be able to be hanging out here a decade from now.
Maybe this sounds strange, but I like it here. Folks are basicly polite, get pissed off at things and not each other so much. And we are ALL ready to learn and at least try to help. And we are dang good folders, which is why we are in the top ten of teams and probably will be in number 7 spot within one calendar year at the far OUTSIDE of probability.
Part of what makes this site work is teamwork, we pitch in with ideas that at least might relate, or give ideas on how to find out what the error symptom isd really casued by in a box. We're all different in how we approach things-- that is good, cuz one of us might be right but the others are using what they have dealt with to handle similar things in the past to help.
Wildest hairy thing about this site, is that it has NEVER broken a profit, so by def it is not a corporate empire like Ziff-Davis media. That is good for the end user and budding system admin. We do not have to think so much about pocketbook and how what we say might hurt advertising-- I try not to tell producers that contribute to IT to go to heck, but will point out where they need to improve things, as without that things will NOT improve.
The other part of individuals in IT is that they want their boxes to do what they want to accomplish in the way that they each can work best. "I do not like this idea," or "I do not understand" can be tempered with respect for each other and what we each CAN and DO accomplish with our boxes. This site has that feel. Most of the admins and mods are experienced in at least some facet of IT, and most if not all hang near the edge of the industry.
This site is rapidly becoming what I hoped for from Prime, Shorty, and MediaMan. I can safely say that mediaman specializes in media, has a degree in that area, and is one heck of a good enthusiast who has very good potential as a system admin of great caliber. HE knows how to say what he means. Like me, he is not always right for the one isolated error being fixed.
So, here is the other side of what the others have said-- there are enough of us to hang in and get the job doen over the long term that this site will not vaporize in the next year or two barring hollocuast. Everyone that not knock others when he does not know why someone made the point wiull be and stay welcome here. Folks starting to ask "why did you say that" instead of "that cannot be true." We are just big enough to grow and kick tails of those with less dedicated folks-- and I for one want to see that happen, not for my own prestige but for the sake of the community here.
In the case of the folding team, for the case of biting cancer where it hurts more and more ways and eventually preventing more and more cancer. Little bit of friendly competition, if folks do not take it personal, is good for folding and the team.
This site has that kind of folks. I was a stranger, but they learned I not only mean business but that the wild hairy ideas I have might just actually fix someone's box or help someone else reading the thread to fix what gives same error for different reasons on THIER box.
My fingers do not like typing. But my mind works, and so do the minds of those here, both corporately and individually-- all different but that is both part of life and welcome as we each see better into different parts of a problem.
If you want to understand me, I hang as a multiskilled IT generalist. And understanding is a large part of respect. And mutual respect makes a site hang and last well.
Empire not needed, community is needed. Welcome to this one, please be as big a part of it as you want so long as you keep in mind that we respect as much as we are respected, some of us.
John D-- who has been writing about IT in soem way as long as he has been playing with IT things, though not always perfectly right and not often for money. BTW, this was not paid for, I am not the public relations guy here, and I am a user who happened a few times to to jabber with a guy who became one of the owners of this site. And I have ripped on details as much as I have praised things-- figured, in this case, "Let's balance the input some."