mmonnnin is right Sally, there is no reason that you can't run different hdd brands together. You wouldn't want to use them in a raid, and you might not even want t0 let them all 'cable select'.
I have two machines that have mixed brands of hdd with no sweat.
I hope that your data transfer went smoothly.
I expect to see you posting questions about folding today Sally, now that you have all of these computer running
It is now 7:07am. Finally got to bed at 9:30pm last night. Certainly needed that sleep.
Sally is one of those people that can be entertained at the puter for hours on end.
Don't know why, but i felt quite good till about 7pm. Like i was 18 again. Life's short, party hard sort of thing. Believe me when i tell you i'm back to being 57 again this morning.
Unfortunately sally has a really bad back and cannot lift anything awkward or heavy. As the puter had to be moved about quite a few times for easier access, to check internals and make some minor changes, i could not really leave her with it as she would get so far and have to wait for me to get up.
This would have things more frustrating for her.
When i went to bed sally was having the occasional hiccup with the new setup.
Checked her puter a minute ago and it appears we have a new set of problems now it is actually running.
It is still related to what has been happening, i'm sure. It is almost like me. "Act first, think later". A few times it just shut itself down, like there was a bad connection or something. Not sure what else there is happening, as sally is still catching up on a couple of hours of sleep.
When a program has been loaded and it needs needs a restart, like after MS updates to take effect, it reboots and in the initial startup screen, it reads the 1M of ram, checks the disks and shows no hard drive present. I think sally the goes into the bios, resets it, gets it going again. (need verification on this).
All our software is original purchased stuff. Nothing dodgy. Case and PSU are brand new. MOBO, 2 x 512 ram, 3.2g prescott prossessor all new too.
1xcd burner out of old system, dvd burner 6 weeks old, hardly used yet. floppy out of old system, to be replaced with black one to suit case. 1 x WD800JB about 2-3 month old. Cabling to all drives replaced with new case. 60G seagate removed and put into old system, anticipating possible conflict, so backup data could be accessed via network. (Read your message Mark, lol).
In a nutshell, the rotten thing should run like the wind. Did replace the cable to the WD HD with a brand new ribbon, incase it was part of the problem. Only hooked up the very minimal to get started, no printers or scanner. Tried a different mouse and keyboard, still no difference.
Can't even start her puter to see what might happen as when i went to bed she had not had the opportunity to set up the firewall. When i got up, the phone connection was still unplugged from the wall. Leaving it off till she wakes up and this way i'm still online with my laptop and the 2 other folding puters.
Car needs a wash. Might be good therapy. Wonder if the dog need a kick, might help too, lol. (just kidding, love the dogs).
Really appreciate you guys checking in and helping out with advise.
We had been talking about changing HD's to Sata150's. Don't know if this would help or hinder things. Trying to match the speed of all the components. Just had a thought. Wish sally's nephew was here instead of in Melbourne. He is a puter wiz. Got a job with MS in seattle some years ago. Now back in OZ, doing his own thing.
Might go and check a few local, online prices for sata150 drives. Had a quick look last night. Found a variety of them, just too tired to care. Don't know if any stand out above the rest, but are limited with finances so will have to do some creative accounting. (Sally's part. Me,i just lift heavy weights, hehe).
Jon
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Straight_ManGeeky, in my own wayNaples, FLIcrontian
edited February 2004
Have sally check time in BIOS, and the CMOS jumper setting, making sure the CMOS jumper setting is in "normal" and not in "Clear" or "Recover". If time is off bad, then CMOS jumper either got left in "Clear (aka reset)" or CMOS battery is almost dead. That will cause aboard to recognize a Hd once per cold boot, as an immediate warm boot might happen fast enough on new boxes that the CMOS never loses settings (CMOSs need soem refreshing, but not as often as RAM does, so a reboot can leave settings intact but you then lose settings when box has been off for a while). Also, check the boopt order in BIOS, have had low batteries cause random reordering of what comes first.
Typically, a HD not found error is not the O\S, it is the BIOS. Some boards ship with CMOS jumper off, and some have been so long since stuck in at assembly plant and left on until you got them, and are partly or almost all the way dead on arrival. CMOS battery low, settings do not get saved right and retained after cold boot or 10-15 minutes after box has been turned off.
Cable idea was a good starting point, now please check the CMOS jumper and battery.
Hi Ageek, sally is now up and just not sure if she is awake yet. She is at the puter and it is ALMOST behaving as it should. Last night as sally went to bed, the puter was in the last stages of copying the backup data, about 30min left to go from the last folder.
As i was the first one up, i found the puter in early stages of a reboot, with screen stuck with a whole heap of print and the cursor flashing in the bottom left hand corner.
Sally just told me, when the puter crashes and she does a restart, the Taskbar and Start Menu Properties have gone back to the default settings. Different from how she has it set up. Don't know if this is relevant, thought i'd best mention it.
Just in case, i will buy a new battery for the mobo to possibly eliminate a faulty battery.
Quote. "Have sally check time in BIOS, and the CMOS jumper setting, making sure the CMOS jumper setting is in "normal" and not in "Clear" or "Recover". If time is off bad, then CMOS jumper either got left in "Clear (aka reset)" or CMOS battery is almost dead." Unquote.
We cannot find anything remotely like the jumper settings in the CMOS. I researched the board for possible jumpers, but could not find any relevant ones there either.
It is a Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000Pro2. Any thoughts where to look or are we going on a different tangent.
I just downloaded the manual and you're right; there is no cmos jumper on that mobo. You have to remove the battery to clear the cmos. :sad2:
I caought 1 thing in a previous post is that you said that you have a 3.2 prescott proc. If so, that might be part of the problem. The prescott procs have only now just been released and your board might need a bios update to properly support it. The latest bios for your board is the F6 bios. Plus, I've read that there are some compatibility problems with some boards and prescotts. I haven't read anything on any gigabyte boards though, either running correctly or not running correctly with prescott procs. Your system just doesn't sound like it's totally stable, the way it's acting up.
Fingers, legs and eyes crossed , we look like we finally got a winner.
I got a bit carried away replying to a different post explaining a few happenings today. I wil copy the comments below.
"Mmmmm, yeah. Sally did a check disk with NDD and it found 2 problems then crashed. It did reboot immediately without neutralising the BIOS. In the past a reboot would show "No HDD present". It did however fix the 2 problems before rebooting itself after diskcheck. A follow up diskcheck was done and NO errors were found.
An updated chipset was finally located and downloaded. So far, so good.
Application event viewer shows the last error to be 11:27am, while diskdoctor was doing it's thing.
The errors found at that time were: "Deleting index entry all[1].css in index $130 of file 12343" and "Deleting index entry ALL_1_~1.CSS in index $130 of file 12343"
Maybe someone could enlighten us as too whether these errors were significant???
She then went hunting for this elusive driver that seems to be causing us some dramas.......Found a beaut little program that can read all the drivers on the computer for every bit of hardware installed. Isolated the non MS drivers out from the rest and as there were only a few Manufacturers, went to their site to see if there were updated drivers available.........Yeehar!!! went up the cry.......she found that the P4 3.2 proc had an updated chipset. Loaded them up and restarted.
The system hasn't had a event error since........Does this mean she may have fixed it.........System appears to be working fine.......wont know until the next crash if the problem has finally been corrected.
System errors in event viewer indicate a variety of them. System, DHCP, NTFS, and a whole heap of yellow warning triangles. These were created at the time it crashed on sally @ 11:55pm last night. Sally left the puter switched off til this morning. Since then it has only stopped once, when the diskcheck caused it.
I truly believe we are FINALLY on a winner for a change. I wasn't game to make any comments untill it had run for a bit longer."
So far it has been 6.5 hrs and she's looking good. (puter that is).
Not really sure which action has made the corrections, if it has at all.
Following the suggestions from you guys kept us quite busy and without them we would not be where we are at the moment. For that i thank you all.
Our next challenge will be to "Ghost" the contents of c: to d:. A tread regarding this has already been started in general software.
Once this has been done, i can then change D: to C:. This will give me a 120g sata/150 HDD in place of the 80G ide. Next will be another 120G sata/150 for backup.
After this we will be setting up F@H in HT mode, meaning 2 of them.
This will give us the equivalent of . :woowoo: Now to prepare some questions for the folding section.
Once again many thanks to you guys for helping us during these stressful times.
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I have two machines that have mixed brands of hdd with no sweat.
I hope that your data transfer went smoothly.
I expect to see you posting questions about folding today Sally, now that you have all of these computer running
It is now 7:07am. Finally got to bed at 9:30pm last night. Certainly needed that sleep.
Sally is one of those people that can be entertained at the puter for hours on end.
Don't know why, but i felt quite good till about 7pm. Like i was 18 again. Life's short, party hard sort of thing. Believe me when i tell you i'm back to being 57 again this morning.
Unfortunately sally has a really bad back and cannot lift anything awkward or heavy. As the puter had to be moved about quite a few times for easier access, to check internals and make some minor changes, i could not really leave her with it as she would get so far and have to wait for me to get up.
This would have things more frustrating for her.
When i went to bed sally was having the occasional hiccup with the new setup.
Checked her puter a minute ago and it appears we have a new set of problems now it is actually running.
It is still related to what has been happening, i'm sure. It is almost like me. "Act first, think later". A few times it just shut itself down, like there was a bad connection or something. Not sure what else there is happening, as sally is still catching up on a couple of hours of sleep.
When a program has been loaded and it needs needs a restart, like after MS updates to take effect, it reboots and in the initial startup screen, it reads the 1M of ram, checks the disks and shows no hard drive present. I think sally the goes into the bios, resets it, gets it going again. (need verification on this).
All our software is original purchased stuff. Nothing dodgy. Case and PSU are brand new. MOBO, 2 x 512 ram, 3.2g prescott prossessor all new too.
1xcd burner out of old system, dvd burner 6 weeks old, hardly used yet. floppy out of old system, to be replaced with black one to suit case. 1 x WD800JB about 2-3 month old. Cabling to all drives replaced with new case. 60G seagate removed and put into old system, anticipating possible conflict, so backup data could be accessed via network. (Read your message Mark, lol).
In a nutshell, the rotten thing should run like the wind. Did replace the cable to the WD HD with a brand new ribbon, incase it was part of the problem. Only hooked up the very minimal to get started, no printers or scanner. Tried a different mouse and keyboard, still no difference.
Can't even start her puter to see what might happen as when i went to bed she had not had the opportunity to set up the firewall. When i got up, the phone connection was still unplugged from the wall. Leaving it off till she wakes up and this way i'm still online with my laptop and the 2 other folding puters.
Car needs a wash. Might be good therapy. Wonder if the dog need a kick, might help too, lol. (just kidding, love the dogs).
Really appreciate you guys checking in and helping out with advise.
We had been talking about changing HD's to Sata150's. Don't know if this would help or hinder things. Trying to match the speed of all the components. Just had a thought. Wish sally's nephew was here instead of in Melbourne. He is a puter wiz. Got a job with MS in seattle some years ago. Now back in OZ, doing his own thing.
Might go and check a few local, online prices for sata150 drives. Had a quick look last night. Found a variety of them, just too tired to care. Don't know if any stand out above the rest, but are limited with finances so will have to do some creative accounting. (Sally's part. Me,i just lift heavy weights, hehe).
Jon
Typically, a HD not found error is not the O\S, it is the BIOS. Some boards ship with CMOS jumper off, and some have been so long since stuck in at assembly plant and left on until you got them, and are partly or almost all the way dead on arrival. CMOS battery low, settings do not get saved right and retained after cold boot or 10-15 minutes after box has been turned off.
Cable idea was a good starting point, now please check the CMOS jumper and battery.
John D.
As i was the first one up, i found the puter in early stages of a reboot, with screen stuck with a whole heap of print and the cursor flashing in the bottom left hand corner.
Sally just told me, when the puter crashes and she does a restart, the Taskbar and Start Menu Properties have gone back to the default settings. Different from how she has it set up. Don't know if this is relevant, thought i'd best mention it.
Just in case, i will buy a new battery for the mobo to possibly eliminate a faulty battery.
Quote. "Have sally check time in BIOS, and the CMOS jumper setting, making sure the CMOS jumper setting is in "normal" and not in "Clear" or "Recover". If time is off bad, then CMOS jumper either got left in "Clear (aka reset)" or CMOS battery is almost dead." Unquote.
We cannot find anything remotely like the jumper settings in the CMOS. I researched the board for possible jumpers, but could not find any relevant ones there either.
It is a Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000Pro2. Any thoughts where to look or are we going on a different tangent.
Thanks Jon
I caought 1 thing in a previous post is that you said that you have a 3.2 prescott proc. If so, that might be part of the problem. The prescott procs have only now just been released and your board might need a bios update to properly support it. The latest bios for your board is the F6 bios. Plus, I've read that there are some compatibility problems with some boards and prescotts. I haven't read anything on any gigabyte boards though, either running correctly or not running correctly with prescott procs. Your system just doesn't sound like it's totally stable, the way it's acting up.
Fingers, legs and eyes crossed
I got a bit carried away replying to a different post explaining a few happenings today. I wil copy the comments below.
"Mmmmm, yeah. Sally did a check disk with NDD and it found 2 problems then crashed. It did reboot immediately without neutralising the BIOS. In the past a reboot would show "No HDD present". It did however fix the 2 problems before rebooting itself after diskcheck. A follow up diskcheck was done and NO errors were found.
An updated chipset was finally located and downloaded. So far, so good.
Application event viewer shows the last error to be 11:27am, while diskdoctor was doing it's thing.
The errors found at that time were: "Deleting index entry all[1].css in index $130 of file 12343" and "Deleting index entry ALL_1_~1.CSS in index $130 of file 12343"
Maybe someone could enlighten us as too whether these errors were significant???
She then went hunting for this elusive driver that seems to be causing us some dramas.......Found a beaut little program that can read all the drivers on the computer for every bit of hardware installed. Isolated the non MS drivers out from the rest and as there were only a few Manufacturers, went to their site to see if there were updated drivers available.........Yeehar!!! went up the cry.......she found that the P4 3.2 proc had an updated chipset. Loaded them up and restarted.
The system hasn't had a event error since........Does this mean she may have fixed it.........System appears to be working fine.......wont know until the next crash if the problem has finally been corrected.
System errors in event viewer indicate a variety of them. System, DHCP, NTFS, and a whole heap of yellow warning triangles. These were created at the time it crashed on sally @ 11:55pm last night. Sally left the puter switched off til this morning. Since then it has only stopped once, when the diskcheck caused it.
I truly believe we are FINALLY on a winner for a change. I wasn't game to make any comments untill it had run for a bit longer."
So far it has been 6.5 hrs and she's looking good. (puter that is).
Not really sure which action has made the corrections, if it has at all.
Following the suggestions from you guys kept us quite busy and without them we would not be where we are at the moment. For that i thank you all.
Our next challenge will be to "Ghost" the contents of c: to d:. A tread regarding this has already been started in general software.
Once this has been done, i can then change D: to C:. This will give me a 120g sata/150 HDD in place of the 80G ide. Next will be another 120G sata/150 for backup.
After this we will be setting up F@H in HT mode, meaning 2 of them.
This will give us the equivalent of
Once again many thanks to you guys for helping us during these stressful times.
Jon & Sally