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Intel should be ashamed

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edited February 2004 in Science & Tech
A posting by Linus Torvalds on the linux-kernel mailing list suggests that Intel should be more than a little ashamed of itself when it announced its 64-bit extensions last week.

[blockquote]Torvalds was replying to a post which asked whether there was any difference between X86_64 and X86-64.

He said the real name for the instruction set should be X86-64, and always has been.

Torvalds said he was "a bit disgusted" at Intel for not even mentioning AMD in its documentation or its press releases. "I'd almost be inclined to rename the thing as AMD64 just to give credit where credit is due," he said. "However, it's just not worth the pain and confusion".
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  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    The INQUIRER name for Intel's 64-bit extensions is iAMD64. µ

    That is the line that I like.
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited February 2004
    That figures, it would be too costly for intel to develop their own extensions.
    And it would be uncertain whether anyone would implement them in their software.
    Furthermore it would be costly and difficult, to make programs compatible with two "standards"
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    AMD beat them to the punch. Microsoft responded well. Consumers even better.

    Awwww, sorry Intel! HT2, more cache and a higher frequency won't save you!

    Remember that line of crap your reps fed Shorty at the UK Gamer's Expo? Yeah, I told you guys you were full of **** then. See? See? Asshats.
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited February 2004
    I like it too.
    edcentric wrote:
    The INQUIRER name for Intel's 64-bit extensions is iAMD64. µ

    That is the line that I like.
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    The worst part is that the general public will be snowed by it - they'll buy Intel crap regardless of how much/little credit AMD actually gets for setting the standard.
  • GnomeWizarddGnomeWizardd Member 4 Life Akron, PA Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    IF amd actually got out there with comercials and stuff touting the first real 64bit cpu Intel would go down BUT noooooo they wont and for that AMD is stupid
  • SpinnerSpinner Birmingham, UK
    edited February 2004
    Advertising costs money. But yeah, if I have to hear that bloody Intel chime one more time, I swear, I'll dress up in a shiny coloured suit helmet combo and shoot myself.
  • MediaManMediaMan Powered by loose parts.
    edited February 2004
    It will be unfortunate as the public will buy the swill that Intel brews. But as long as we are here they won't in our corner of the web.
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited February 2004
    Is it this one?
    Ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding?
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    GnomeWizardd wrote:
    IF amd actually got out there with comercials and stuff touting the first real 64bit cpu Intel would go down BUT noooooo they wont and for that AMD is stupid

    Well, at least talk radio is getting the word out. Kim Komando touts the AMD64 CPUs in her discussion as well as in paid advertising. She is the number one weekend talk radio show. In my local market, the most popular radio station's weekly call-in computer show always gives AMD a fair shake. The Intel behemoth is hard to hit; but they don't own all the advertising markets. AMD is making progress, albeit just not as fast as we enthusiasts would like.
  • JengoJengo Pasco, WA | USA
    edited February 2004
    intel is dumb

    /nuff said
  • madmatmadmat
    edited February 2004
    I'm sure that if SSE or MMX had been labled with an Intel branded label that AMD would have used a different naming convention on them.
    This isn't like Intel has been trying to hide the fact that they are using AMD's x86-64 64 bit extensions, they've made it publically known that they are incorporating the extensions created by AMD into future procs.
    I can't blame them for not wanting to use their competitors name on their product.
    Volvo pioneered the three point harness and if in order to implement them in another car they had to have the word "Volvo" stitched into them I think we'd still be driving around with lap belts.
  • DogSoldierDogSoldier The heart of radical Amish country..
    edited February 2004
    I'm a bit fuzzy on this, what are "extensions" exactly? Are they hard wired onto CPUs? If so, wouldn't Intel have to pay AMD residuals or fees of some sort? (Since AMD developed them) That would be a marketing nightmare, "NEW INTEL5 PROCESSOR, NOW WITH AMD 64BIT EXTENSIONS!" :celebrate
  • madmatmadmat
    edited February 2004
    Intel and AMD had some sort of arrangement they came to some years back in which they are both able to incorporate whatever they wish of the others design.
    This is how AMD ended up with MMX and SSE.
    Now with the 64 bit extensions Intel will be taking advantage of the arrangement too.
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    I don't really see a problem here other then the majority of you hating them practicing Buisness 101. They made the agreement, AMD has been doing it with MMX and SSE amounst OTHERS, so what is wrong? I am no fan of Intel myself, owning an Athlon64 3000+...

    maybe I misread something?
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited February 2004
    I thought there was a Copyright for so long and then the other manufacture could use it after the copyright or w/e is over. Thats why AMDs finally got SSE2 with the new 64bit CPUs.
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited February 2004
    I agree with RWB. Sleazy? Yes. Legal? Yes. (I'm referring to Intel, not RWB!)
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