Is there anything similar for ATI 9600 Pro? I have one, it OC's like crazy, but is there something more that can be got out of it thru software? Been looking around but haven't found anything as yet..
Omega Cats: Install RadClocker during driver install. It puts a tab in the ATi Control Panel that allows overclock... and it works even on my 9500 Pro with locked BIOS.
Is there anything similar for ATI 9600 Pro? I have one, it OC's like crazy, but is there something more that can be got out of it thru software? Been looking around but haven't found anything as yet..
Nothing that I know of yet. AFAIK, the only thing you can do with the 9600 series is just overclock the hell out of it.
The difference being that the 9600 is built upon its own PCB, not the PCB of a different product (such as the early 9500's being built upon 9700 PCB's).
Hence, there are only 4 pipelines on the 9600's VPU, not 8 with 4 disabled. Because of this, there really is nothing that anyone can develop to "softmod" the 9600 into another product.
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(such as the early 9500's being built upon 9700 PCB's)
Oh, and how sweet it is! Those modded 9500P->9700P cards sure were a bargain.
seems like the Rage3D Tweak works in overclocking without flashing the bios, i managed to get my 9500 up to 315mhz without any problems. got a 1000 point boost in my 3dmark score as well.
There were PowerColor, Sapphire and Built By ATI Radeon 9500's that the softmod could be performed on, but you can't buy them anymore.
Ever since March, they have been manufacturing Radeon 9500's & Radeon 9500 Pro's on a new PCB that cannot be modded to the Radeon 9700. Your only way to get a card that MAY softmod is second-hand through a private deal or an E-Bay auction.
As well, the Radeon 9500/9500Pro series has been replaced by the new RV350 series of cards, the Radeon 9600, 9600 Pro & 9600 XT.
Thanks SimGuy. I'm a regular on EOCF so I knew the rest, but appreciate it.
Asking, because there are still plenty on eBay, but the most current are BBA brand cards and I thought I heard someone say Sapphire were the only ones that work. Of course with eBay, you run the risk that they have already tried the softmod and it didn't work.
AllStarShop is the only retailer that I know of that still offers the L-config PCB. It's in the red & black versions around $150.
Wizzard, the original architect behind the soft-mod, says that all you need is a 9500 NP on a 9700 PCB. AFAIK, as long as it's got L-shaped memory, it's on a 9700 PCB. It doesn't matter what company manufactured the board, whether it's ATI, Sapphire, PowerColor, Hercules, etc...
Q: Which brand should I buy?
A: There's no difference in moddability between the cards. All OEMs have to use the same GPU and PCB.
Picture below is the Sapphire model that can be soft-modded. I don't know how it relates to the AllStar model though.
Are you a gambler?
//EDIT: I should note that most of the successful soft-mods were made with Sapphire cards, but there were other cards (from PowerColor, BBA, Hercules, etc..) that did softmod fine, just they weren't as "frequent" as the Sapphire's.
Install the Catalyst 3.9's and utilize this file (which is the patched ati2mtag.sys file for the Cat 3.9's).
I'll update this article as soon as I figure out where the hell I can host all these files and stuff, as my local webspace where everything is stored has once again exceeded it's monthly allowance of bandwidth... in all of 8 days.
Beautimous. I installed 3.9, added the tweak, and re-ran 3DMark 2003. Went from 4188 to 4246. Marginal increase, but the SM worked (which was the key).
Without the SM (on 3.8), and with a stock clock (276mhz) my machine posted 2764. With the SM (on 3.9) and a slight OC (290) it's posting the 4246. A significant difference!
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And the amazing Catalyst upgrade pops up again. Looks like they've gone to Cat 4.1 now. I don't see anything in the "fix" list for it that concerns me, but others might. I assume we would need an upgrade to your magic file to put the Cat 4.1 drivers on our lovely modded 9500s....?
And might I add, that this car still rocks. I just put a VGA Silencer (from Arctic Cooling) on mine, and I'm getting unreal core frequency OCs out of it now. Still tweaking it to see how far it will go. Stuck at 290 for the mem freq, but that's not surprising. No special cooling on them. And the VGA Silencer is noticably quieter than the fan/heatsink that came with the card even on the higher setting.
In any case, thank you for all of your support for this beasty over the last year+. We appreciate it greatly!
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Is there anything similar for ATI 9600 Pro? I have one, it OC's like crazy, but is there something more that can be got out of it thru software? Been looking around but haven't found anything as yet..
Nothing that I know of yet. AFAIK, the only thing you can do with the 9600 series is just overclock the hell out of it.
Hence, there are only 4 pipelines on the 9600's VPU, not 8 with 4 disabled. Because of this, there really is nothing that anyone can develop to "softmod" the 9600 into another product.
Oh, and how sweet it is! Those modded 9500P->9700P cards sure were a bargain.
This is a Sapphire 9500 right?
Does it have to be manufactured by Sapphire?
Can anyone here report a success with a non-Sapphire card?
There were PowerColor, Sapphire and Built By ATI Radeon 9500's that the softmod could be performed on, but you can't buy them anymore.
Ever since March, they have been manufacturing Radeon 9500's & Radeon 9500 Pro's on a new PCB that cannot be modded to the Radeon 9700. Your only way to get a card that MAY softmod is second-hand through a private deal or an E-Bay auction.
As well, the Radeon 9500/9500Pro series has been replaced by the new RV350 series of cards, the Radeon 9600, 9600 Pro & 9600 XT.
Asking, because there are still plenty on eBay, but the most current are BBA brand cards and I thought I heard someone say Sapphire were the only ones that work. Of course with eBay, you run the risk that they have already tried the softmod and it didn't work.
AllStarShop is the only retailer that I know of that still offers the L-config PCB. It's in the red & black versions around $150.
http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/product.asp?dept_id=124&pid=6538&ad=pwatch
Q: Which brand should I buy?
A: There's no difference in moddability between the cards. All OEMs have to use the same GPU and PCB.
Picture below is the Sapphire model that can be soft-modded. I don't know how it relates to the AllStar model though.
Are you a gambler?
//EDIT: I should note that most of the successful soft-mods were made with Sapphire cards, but there were other cards (from PowerColor, BBA, Hercules, etc..) that did softmod fine, just they weren't as "frequent" as the Sapphire's.
I'll update this article as soon as I figure out where the hell I can host all these files and stuff, as my local webspace where everything is stored has once again exceeded it's monthly allowance of bandwidth... in all of 8 days.
Without the SM (on 3.8), and with a stock clock (276mhz) my machine posted 2764. With the SM (on 3.9) and a slight OC (290) it's posting the 4246. A significant difference!
Thank you for your help, and this fine guide.
You haven't been able to purchase Radeon 9500's that can be soft-modded for ages now, so I'm going to decommission this thread.
When new soft-mod patches do come out, I'll make sure to update the thread, but other than that I think it's pretty much history.
If not what do you guys think of the 9500 vrs the 9600 pro and non pro.
i'm looking to spend 140 or so for a new graphics card.
thanks
http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/pro...=6538&ad=pwatch
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=320702
case: File cabinent 2 80mm & 2 92mm fans
Asus a7n8x deluxe
xp 2500+ @ 2.21
radeon 7000 (yes i know it's time)
1 gig corsair xms
maxtor diamond max 9 serial ata 160 gig (aftr the rma)
some other shtuff in thier.
And might I add, that this car still rocks. I just put a VGA Silencer (from Arctic Cooling) on mine, and I'm getting unreal core frequency OCs out of it now. Still tweaking it to see how far it will go. Stuck at 290 for the mem freq, but that's not surprising. No special cooling on them. And the VGA Silencer is noticably quieter than the fan/heatsink that came with the card even on the higher setting.
In any case, thank you for all of your support for this beasty over the last year+. We appreciate it greatly!