sp-94 measurement

entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
edited May 2004 in Hardware
could anyone who has an sp-94 and the time and means to do so, please measure about how far it is from the farthest edge of the heatpipes to the side of the hsf? i'm not sure if it will fit on my mobo due to the NB chip, but i'm not sure that it won't fit, either. thanks in advance

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  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited May 2004
    uh, well the reason i specifically asked is because thermalright has pretty poor documentation throughout their site. "So far, we have not found any boards not compatible with SP-94" ... who says they just haven't updated it in awhile?
    "GIGABYTE (SP-94 fit on all Giga-byte P4 DPS2 motherboards)
    Intel 875P GA-8IPE1000G"
    DPS2..? and i have a 1000L, but it's an 865pe chipset, and they don't even have that one listed there. i wouldn't've asked if i could've found a specific answer
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited May 2004
    http://www.systemcooling.com/images/reviews/Heatsinks/Thermalright_SP-94/Image8big.jpg

    They don't stick out that much farther than the mounting screws, which is why Thermalright said, and is probably right, that just about any P4 board will work.

    Besides, the SP-94 isn't even one of the Top 3 P4 heatsinks anymore. Hell, I'd wager that it's not even in the top 5 (or if it is, it's number 5).
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited May 2004
    well, with the stock p4 heatsink on there right now, i have _maybe_ a quarter of an inch before the corner of the NB hsf. and honestly i can't see where the mounting holes are. so what ones would be in the top 3 and/or 5?
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited May 2004
    I haven't had a chance to test these guys (hell, some of them are so new that I can't find anywhere selling them yet), but I've seen reviews on some of them, and they beat the crap out of the SP-97. The ones that haven't been reviewed I've calculated the surface area, airflow, etc., on, and they should have no trouble beating the SP-94 either.

    There's the Cooler Master KHC-V81 Hyper 6, the Thermaltake CL-P0025, the Thermaltake Tower 112, the Aerocool HT-101, and the Aerocool DP-102.

    Those aren't in order, by the way. From highest performing to lowest performing, it'd probably be:

    1- Thermaltake Tower 112
    2- CoolerMaster KHC-V81 Hyper 6
    3- Aerocool HT-101
    4- Aerocool DP-102
    5- Thermaltake CL-P0025
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited May 2004
    Those things are all freakin huge. I guess I havent read enough reviews on all those HSs. Geeky, do you know of a review that has test all of them or several of them?
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited May 2004
    No, I don't. The only ones that have been available for any length of time are the two Aerocool ones.

    On a totally unrelated note, anyone who attaches those to a socket a cpu by clipping them on (which a number of them do) is in-friggin-sane.
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited May 2004
    i'm gonna have to agree with mmonnin...you could hold your soda on those things and have room for three more...no, while that would be nice for extreme overclockage, i can't afford to have any of those as they're all so monstrous. an sp-94 / slk-947 / 948 ... geeky, would you say those need to be attached with the retention clip as well, or would just sticking them on there be ok?
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited May 2004
    The SP-94 and SLK-947 both bolt onto the board, so it shouldn't matter.

    BTW, none of those are all that much more expensive than the SP/SLK- some are a bit cheaper, actually. On the other hand, even bolted to the board, I would NOT drop the computer from any significant height with one of those monstrosities attached.

    Also, if I can draw up the plans and get a company to make me some sample heatpipes for free/low cost (both of which are highly unlikely, but worth a shot), I may assemble something that is, uh, well, significantly larger than any of those things. Like, a LOT larger. Something with say, 8-32 heatpipes and 1 or 2 120mm fans.
  • DanGDanG I AM CANADIAN Icrontian
    edited May 2004
    I had an sp94 running with revision 1 of the gigabyte 8IK1100 board. It didn't have the DPS and it fit fine. Even with a zalman passive northbridge heatsink.
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited May 2004
    alright, so what is dps/dps2? geeky, that's exactly why i can't have one of those - there's a lan here roughly every month, and i'll sometimes go to my friend's for just a 2 person ... so moving it at all wouldn't be an option with those. btw, if you can built a monster hsf like you say .... you'll be my hero lol
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited May 2004
    entr0py wrote:
    well, with the stock p4 heatsink on there right now, i have _maybe_ a quarter of an inch before the corner of the NB hsf. and honestly i can't see where the mounting holes are. so what ones would be in the top 3 and/or 5?

    What you mount the HS to the motherboard with those is same four holes that hold the plastic holddown for the stock HS. Look for little protruberances on underside of board, sometimes the stock plastic holddown is fastened on with plastic spring-out fasteners and not steel screws. If so, they can be black and eqsiest to see bottom ends on underside of motherboard. With stock HS on, they are hidden UNDER HS. the ones that screw on for best results either get modded so holes are made, or have cutouts or holes near corners of bottom plate for mounting-- then, one sometimes has to take the dang plastic things off first and use screws and nuts.


    Short form, for Thrax who likes outlines, holes hidden but exist....
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida Member
    edited May 2004
    entr0py, I recently checked to see if my own board was on the list and it is there. Last time I checked, it wasn't there, but I wasn't really worried because I hadn't seen any reports that it would not work. Anyway, Your board, or something very close to it, at least, is listed. Besides, take a look at Thermalright's website. It doesn't need to be mounted in that position. (The heatpipes pointing upwards) It can be mounted with the pipes sideways. See this picture I have attached. ...It does seem that it would be better for the pipes to be pointing up, huh? As heat rises and everything... Hope this helps.

    -Rick
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited May 2004
    well i'm pretty sure to either side it wouldn't work all that well because of the things for the electricity...forget what they're called...but thanks for the info, and if i do get a new hsf it'll probably be the sp-94 or the 948 ... depends on how much money i have / am willing to spend.
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited May 2004
    Geeky1 wrote:
    I haven't had a chance to test these guys (hell, some of them are so new that I can't find anywhere selling them yet), but I've seen reviews on some of them, and they beat the crap out of the SP-97. The ones that haven't been reviewed I've calculated the surface area, airflow, etc., on, and they should have no trouble beating the SP-94 either.

    There's the Cooler Master KHC-V81 Hyper 6, the Thermaltake CL-P0025, the Thermaltake Tower 112, the Aerocool HT-101, and the Aerocool DP-102.

    Those aren't in order, by the way. From highest performing to lowest performing, it'd probably be:

    1- Thermaltake Tower 112
    2- CoolerMaster KHC-V81 Hyper 6
    3- Aerocool HT-101
    4- Aerocool DP-102
    5- Thermaltake CL-P0025

    OMG! Geeky, they are.... _huge_!!!
    I am surprised to see two thermaltakes in that list.
    Well let's say that SP94/97 is the best performing "normal" HS.
    At least it doesn't look like a skyscraper. ;D
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida Member
    edited May 2004
    MJO wrote:
    OMG! Geeky, they are.... _huge_!!!
    I am surprised to see two thermaltakes in that list.
    Well let's say that SP94/97 is the best performing "normal" HS.
    At least it doesn't look like a skyscraper. ;D
    My thoughts exactly. I wouldn't even have said anything about them if I were him lol. I've seen two of them before, but come on, man! Who really wants one of those things! Even if they ALL bolt THROUGH the mobo, that's just WAY too much weight. I'd be scared to have my case in ANY position but laying FLAT on the desk! It's just rediculous! :eek3:
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited May 2004
    even if it WERE lying flat on the desk, you'd have to reinforce the desk to offset the depression those things would cause
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited May 2004
    I'd buy one. In fact, I intend to buy the Thermaltake Tower 112 when I can get my hands on one.
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida Member
    edited May 2004
    Wow dude. What's the point? If you're that much a fan of low temps, why not go for some water instead? And I honestly hope you don't intend to attend LANs or move the case around too much without first removing it?
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited May 2004
    Parents. And besides, it'll be going on my P4-E, which will, in all likelihood, never, ever leave my room. I couldn't take a P4 to a lan. I'd die of embarassment.
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited May 2004
    hm ... a lot of my friends use amd, and they gave me hell for my p4. then i showed them what it does and they all rather shutup ... seriously though, amds are supposedly better, and i guess i wouldn't know, but a 3.2c is _not_ something to scoff at, either
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida Member
    edited May 2004
    Aww dude... Is that really necessary?

    ...Hmm... Maybe you're right. After all the bashing and flaming I did at the Lantek (local lan party thing) Forums I could never walk in with an nVidia card. :eek2:

    But then, I'd never bother buying one. If you're such an AMD fanatic, why'd you bother with an Intel chip? Maybe the numbers sucked you in? Lol. I've never seen any AMD OC as high as a recent Intel chip goes at stock speeds.

    Edit: (didn't see entr0py's post) Yeah, everyone says AMD is better. Benchmarks even prove it. But really, how much of a hit are you gonna take if you switch it out for 3.2+GHz of Intel's speed? When I get my Sp-94, I plan to overclock the hell out of this thing. Some of the highest CPU scores and even framrates come from a heavily OC'd Pentium 4. (Especially from the Northwood and Extreme Edition series.)
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited May 2004
    ;D I was kidding, guys. I actually bought the P4 because Newegg screwed up and sent me an IC7-G Max II Advance instead of the dual Athlon Gigabyte board I ordered, and I'd been toying with the idea of setting up a P4-based toy anyhow (I've got a dual athlon system already, the Gigabyte board would've made two; I've got a system with a NF7-S, and a dual PIII system. I've got a dual xeon board sitting on top of the NF7-S system. ANY system I buy at this point is nothing more than a toy)

    Anyhow, the main reason I wouldn't take the P4 is because I have no need to. Even overclocked to 3.4GHz or more, the P4 doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell against a 2600m system at 2.7GHz.

    And actually, now that I think about it, the chances of any of my desktops going to a lan party are not very high. I have a desktop replacement laptop for a reason. :D
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited May 2004
    good lord geeky. lol. i assume your parents give you money for that? or do you actually have to work your ass off, too? hehehe
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited May 2004
    Oh no, I get to get my money the hard way. I don't bother asking my parents for expensive stuff, because IF I can get it, there are always conditions involved. I simply cut out the middle <strike>man</strike> <strike>men</strike> man and woman (which they don't particularly appreciate sometimes, but I really don't care). The dual Athlon system took care of a good portion of my earnings from last summer (probably 50% of the system cost was for the hard drives- 4 Maxtor DiamondMax 9 160GB ATA-133/7200RPM/8MB drives).

    My grandmother gives me $100 or so every once in a while, and I get $50 a week in allowance (of which about $45 every 2 weeks goes to gas, so basically, I get $120 a month in allowance, roughly... IF my parents remember/decide to give it to me). I also get gifts from my grandparents on occasion (laptop, 2 destops [both of which are long gone, save for a part here and there], 2 palm pilots, etc.), but the majority of the money comes out of my own pocket. Which explains why I have a dual socket 604 Xeon board but not the 2 Hyperthreaded Xeons for said board. I could set up the OTHER dual xeon system in the meantime, but frankly, it's just not worth it. It's a Slot 2 system with 2 400MHz Pentium II Xeons (ooh, aah wow ;D)

    And see, THIS is why more-or-less everything I buy at this point is just for sh*ts and giggles (this pic is a few months old, and it hasn't gotten any better since then):

    //EDIT And no, this is not all of it. I didn't bother getting my heatsinks, fans, or miscellaneous crap out for the pic :D
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited May 2004
    lmao, well even though any of those 'gifts' you get is way more than i'd ever get for a single gift, let alone others lol, it's good to hear you have to work for it some :) rich people who mooch off their parents and then say how they're rich piss me off...good to know you don't fall into that category - you're just a kid with a lot of allowance lol ;D oh crap .. OT lol ... then again, i think this thread has run it's course...

    \\EDIT: now i saw that picture ... i take back what i said ;D j/k ... but seriously ... that's just insane ... few comments - GOD that's a lot of components; what are those big huge cards; you have enough hdd space to supply the government of every nation of the world; and by now each and every one of those components damn well better be folding :p:thumbsup:
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited May 2004
    off topic? No such thing. If the people in the thread are posting about it, it's not off topic. :D
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