AMD XP..Which one.....Which Ram?..Need help.

dragonV8dragonV8 not here much New
edited June 2004 in Hardware
We are going to follow in Thrax's footsteps for something different.

Sally and I have been talking about trying an AMD Athlon XP of sorts.
Got some info from Dancer and checking forums. Need more input.

As it will be for folding only, not for gaming, i won't need a top of the range graphics card.

Is this any good, or is it over the top?

Abit NF7-S Ver 2.0 Mobo
Athlon Xp3200+ Proc
2x256 ddr cas2 ram....not sure which speed.

If this can be overclocked, we'll ultimately have a go at that too.

Any suggestion welcomed.

Comments

  • NecropolisNecropolis Hawarden, Wales Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    If your going to overclock, try getting hold of a Mobile Barton. They run cooler and overclock better.
  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    the 2400+M is the current 'hot item'. Your 3200 is faster, but costs a lot more.
    If you can get decent 3700 memory without spending a lot do it.
    You will want to be running at least 200FSB, 220 is more likely.

    Find a cheap ATI video card, an old 8500 or a 9200 should fill the bill. Then if you have to use it for something else the video won't be too bad.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited June 2004
    I would suggest a 2500+ or 2600+ Mobile Barton. I have one running at 2.4-2.5 GHz. Get some PC3200 RAM to go with it. Easy 2.2-2.3 GHz.
  • dragonV8dragonV8 not here much New
    edited June 2004
    Thanks guys. Did some searching around for a mobile 2500+ and the are either extremely expensive or only available on Ebay.
    Looks like i'll stick with the Xp2500+.

    Any advantage running 2x512 sticks of corsair ram or will 1 suffice?

    Cost difference from 256 ($118AUD) to 512 ($156AUD) is minimal for a change.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    I keep forgetting that you're south of the equator. It makes things difficult when trying to acquire hot overclocker items that are readily available in the U.S. ;D

    You should be just fine with a 3200+, you should be able to get 200 or 300MHz out of it for the 2.4/2.5GHz range which isn't a bad overclock at all for an Athlon these days.

    You thought good and right to pick Corsair memory; since it'll only be folding, memory capacity isn't a big deal, just go with one stick of Corsair XMS3200C2. Avoid anything faster than PC3500, because you begin to run into memory timing issues stopping you from running 2/2/2 at 200MHz.
  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    DV8, I like my XP3000. It is not too expensive and overclocks well. Make sure that you get the 333 bus CPU and not the 400. You can turn the clock down and 'fix' the bus speed. I run at 2.3, but I have had it up to 2.5. If I could keep an eye on it I would keep it cranked.
    For memory, make sure that you can run 2,2,2 settings. I like the head room on 3500, but XMS3200 is hard to go wrong with.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited June 2004
    Latences wont be a thing to worry about as it will just be folding. If you get nice OCing RAM and CPU, make sure to get a decent HS to keep it cool.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    Indeed. If you'll be overclocking into the 2.4 and 2.5GHz range, it'd be good to invest in a Thermalright SLK-900 or Thermalright SLK-947U and a Thermaltake SmartFan II.

    The temperatures at the close clockspeeds will be easily manageable with one of those combinations. :)
  • edited June 2004
    There is a lot of sage advice here, Jon. They are directing you very well with their advice. :)

    Go with just 1 stick of ram, dual channel doesn't make a whole lot of difference for folding speed on a folding-only boxand you can save a little money that way.
  • qparadoxqparadox Vancouver, BC
    edited June 2004
    If its only a folding machine 256 MB will be more than enough. If you plan to use it at all for office work or whatever from time to time then get the 512, but otherwise 256 MB is plenty for folding on any modern OS.
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited June 2004
    dragonV8 wrote:
    Thanks guys. Did some searching around for a mobile 2500+ and the are either extremely expensive or only available on Ebay.

    It shouldn't cost a lot for one of us to ship you a XP Mobile CPU (OZ= AU right?). If you have Paypal PM me and we'll work something out. My XP-M 2400+ does (FSB210 x11) 2.31ghz @ v1.65 on air and it was only $75 US (@ the time - $77 now) (a 2.2ghz 3200+ is $187 here)
  • dragonV8dragonV8 not here much New
    edited June 2004
    Omega65 wrote:
    It shouldn't cost a lot for one of us to ship you a XP Mobile CPU (OZ= AU right?). If you have Paypal PM me and we'll work something out. My XP-M 2400+ does (FSB210 x11) 2.31ghz @ v1.65 on air and it was only $75 US (@ the time - $77 now) (a 2.2ghz 3200+ is $187 here)

    Omega65, thank you for that offer.

    Also thank you to all the good advise. At this time we will stick with the XP2500+ and see how things progress.

    If we go too fast, Dexter will have too much of a hard time keeping up, lol. :thumbsup:

    Thanks again

    Jon A.
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    dragon ...be forewarned that processor is probably multi-locked.
    To be truthful ...if I had it all to do again I would get a mobile 2500+ rather than the 3000+/400 I have. It does the same exact thing at half of the cost (even more than half at the time I bought it). The best part is that it doesn't require as much voltage.
    At the time that I bought this processor we were only beginning to discuss using mobile procs for folding rigs ...then mudd got one and ...well you know how the rest of the story goes.

    It's your call ...just my $.02
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited June 2004
    By the way... the best latencies that you are going to find on the market nowadays are 3-2-2. All the BH5 has been wiped out and I don't believe I've heard of any ram that can do those latencies (2-2-2) @ 200fsb. Buffalo CH5 on the other hand is an amazing deal and some of the fastest memory you can buy. This is all irrelevant since you can't get onto newegg and buy some things so I'll walk away in silence.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    I will disagree heartily with that statement, considering Corsair just introduced 4NS PC3200 at native 2/2/2.
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited June 2004
    Ah, that's cool.

    Still notice that I said on the market. I don't see it on newegg so I'm assuming that it's not readily available in retail Australian shops. So I see no reason to "heartily disagree" with my statement
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    Newegg doesn't have it in stock yet. Googlegear has all the iterations that Corsair has released in the 3200XL line.

    It's on the market. Very few things are "Readily available" anywhere beyond the U.S. and Taiwan.
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited June 2004
    I just got on zipzoomfly and saw that they are in stock. I stand corrected.

    PS your live tech support links in your sig link to some thread Dan_G created about his a64. Might want to fix em.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    PS: I know why. Heh. Right click on the AIM/ICQ buttons by the Team number icon and select "Copy shortcut." Everyone's points to that thread. Weird.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited June 2004
    I'm sure it's just another one of the <strike>errors</strike> charms in Shorty's code...
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