A few benches if my new laptop.

muddocktormuddocktor
edited June 2004 in Hardware
Here's a few benches of my new Pentium M lappy with a Dothan 2.0 and 9700 mobility 128 vid card, in case anyone is curious what this will do. This is with the drivers that came with the laptop and nothing special done for benching. The hard drive is a Hitachi 60 gig 7200 rpm laptop drive.

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  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited June 2004
    Not bad. :)

    Have you tried mobilemeter on it? ( http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-Oakland/8259/release/0310/mm0310.zip )

    It's a great little program. No installation or anything necessary- it's like CPU-Z; download & run. It's one of two programs that can do hardware monitoring on my Sager, and since I'm looking at the PowerPro 5:6, I'm hoping it can on it, too.

    Also, the 9700m is based not on the 9700 GPU, but on the 9600XT. I suspect that the 9700m may therefore overclock quite well. Want to download ATiTool and try it? :D

    Incidentally, the 7500m in my laptop overclocks fairly well, actually, which surprises me... 250/166 stock --> 282/189...

    BTW, AFAIK, you don't have to worry about voiding the warranty by overclocking it; Powernotebooks' warranty policy is basically that as long as whatever you did wasn't the cause for the RMA, it's under warranty. :)
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited June 2004
    Well, I tried out mobilemeter and it gives the hard drive temp, but can't show the system temps.:( I also downloaded ATiTool and ran it and when trying to overclock with it active, my machine locked up a couple of times when trying out the max clock seek deal. I then just set the memory from 200 stock to 220 then shut down ATiTool and ran 3dmark 2001 and got exactly 400 points more. I then set it up to 230 on the memory and ran it, but got some screen corruption but it finished the run with 10700. I don't know if the crashing was caused by ATiTool or by the heat generated by the gpu when overclocked though. I will try setting the gpu speed up with the tool and then shutting ATiTool back down and see what happens.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited June 2004
    Dont say it was the heat or Geeky will say to take it apart and put HSs all over the GPU.;)

    How about SM hosting that file?
  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    Which model is it? Looks great.
    I can dream.....
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited June 2004
    I think Mudd ended up with what I'm looking at- The PowerPro M 5:6 from www.powernotebooks.com
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited June 2004
    edcentric wrote:
    Which model is it? Looks great.
    I can dream.....

    It's the PowerPro M 5:6 , sold by www.powernotebooks.com and it seems to be a nice laptop so far.

    It doesn't seem like there is much thermal headroom with this mobility 9700 video subsystem on this machine; I'm having lockups when I have the gpu overclocked at 398 MHz and stock is 390.:( I might have to pull a Geeky and take it apart later on and use some AS on the gpu hs or something. I showed no artifacts at 398, but it locked up between the 3rd and 5th tests in 3dmark 2001.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited June 2004
    If you take it apart, remember to do the following:
    1- Document where all the screws you take out go. I'm not kidding. I ****ed my PCMCIA slot in my laptop by forgetting to screw it down. It flopped around loose for months.
    2- Take pictures. I'd like to see the inside of that thing.
    3- Be careful; don't force anything. If it's not coming apart, look for anything else that could be holding it together
    4- You may not be able to put arctic silver on the GPU. My Sager NP5620 has a heatspreader for the GPU, the northbridge, and the clock generator. All 3 are at different heights, so they just use 3 very thick thermal pads- they're similar to what ATi puts on the 9700 heatsinks, but they're 2-4x that thick. Without seeing the laptop's board and chassis and such in pieces, I couldn't tell you how to modify it, though. :(
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    muddocktor wrote:
    Well, I tried out mobilemeter and it gives the hard drive temp, but can't show the system temps.:(

    HD Temp???

    What value for that does it give, out of curiousity, if you do not mind???
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited June 2004
    John_D wrote:
    HD Temp???

    What value for that does it give, out of curiousity, if you do not mind???

    It's showing 34-35 C with a room temp of 28-29 C, John.

    BTW, I really liked the reply you made over in the SCO thread in the news forum; you had some nice info in it I didn't know about both SCO and Sun. :)
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    muddocktor wrote:
    It's showing 34-35 C with a room temp of 28-29 C, John.

    BTW, I really liked the reply you made over in the SCO thread in the news forum; you had some nice info in it I didn't know about both SCO and Sun. :)

    I was wondering if you MAYBE had a thermal sensor ID misread (maybe mobilemonitor picking something else as a HD temp readout), but with that temp diff, probably NOT!

    Happy you found something in that other thread you could use-- I stay real, REAL, close to Open Source stuff as well as Microsoft O\S stuff. I am more a system reintegrator (put the broken things back together kind of guy) than anything else, by career. What the heck does Open Source have to do with this??? Well, Linux is running now on one of my IC7-Max3 mobo'd systems here (i875 PE chipset), posting from it (Mozilla, actually, v 1.7).

    Back to topic at hand, looks like the Intel 855PM is well designed, nice to have graphic (AGP sub-bus) and DDR RAM on same bridge\hub (I took a quick look at the Intel chipset diagram for that chipset)-- saves hub to hub interface flow, and saves on two hubs mitigating back and forth the RAM I\O for graphics as well as system. Not only that, but PCI is off the other hub entirely. With a lappie this is real important, as the RAM for video is typically not much if any gram dedication at all (seen 16 and 32 MB dedicated GRAM-speed buffering in real high end lappies, but benches will eat more than that real fast).

    I think the slowness of DRAM vs. GRAM on a video card in a desktop is one reason you are limited, might not even be heat at all-- video chip is more likely to be outrunning data flow from DRAM as opposed to what a desktop card with dedicated GRAM to buffer to. Most likely you have a video chip starving for data, and a benchmark program and tweaker pushing data to what it thinks is a desktop card with GRAM on it, timings wise. Bussing is real fast, but DRAM I\O is handling a lot of the workload where on a video card much of the GPU I\O buffering would be Prebuffered and Postbuffered in GRAM. With this kind of slow storage I\O, and a 4X AGP limit ( Intel chipset spec diagram), the lappie is not doing bad at all for a lappie-- in fact very good for a lappie.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited June 2004
    One idea for you, if you have 512 of RAM in the box-- see if it can handle a 128 MB frame buffer size or more and then bench, previous post tells why. Let the video chip have more room to store stuff.... :D That will tell us if is heat or not, by seeing if benches get better or not....
  • MrBillMrBill Missouri Member
    edited June 2004
    You put a whooping on my M6805 emachines laptop. :D
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited June 2004
    Here's one more benchmark that I forgot about until now, Super Pi. Here's what this lappy did:
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