What do you use to create sites?

LincLinc OwnerDetroit Icrontian
edited September 2006 in Internet & Media
Check all that apply!

I'm looking to see how many of use web-coders are actually using the standards supported now :)

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  • KwitkoKwitko Sheriff of Banning (Retired) By the thing near the stuff Icrontian
    edited July 2004
    ¿Um, donde está la encuesta?
  • LincLinc Owner Detroit Icrontian
    edited July 2004
    Jeez, I was still writing it! :p

    vB posts threads before the poll is done.
  • LincLinc Owner Detroit Icrontian
    edited July 2004
    I voted in anticipation of the way I will be coding from now on, given the reading I've been doing this past week.
  • KwitkoKwitko Sheriff of Banning (Retired) By the thing near the stuff Icrontian
    edited July 2004
    Sorry. :) My votes are in.

    I once tried designing a site that used no tables and only CSS for positioning. The problem was that Mozilla rendered differently than IE, which was a huge PITA. Until IE can render CSS correctly, I'm going to stick with tables.

    Most of my markup is now done in XHTML Strict.
  • LincLinc Owner Detroit Icrontian
    edited July 2004
    There is a trick to fool IE 4-5.5 into creating the correct box size with some really simple CSS. IE 6 should display it correctly anyway.
  • ShortyShorty Manchester, UK Icrontian
    edited July 2004
    My votes are in :)
  • LincLinc Owner Detroit Icrontian
    edited July 2004
    The problem is IE 4-5.5 subtracts padding and borders from content area, when it shouldn't. This is the workaround:

    [php]
    div.content {
    width: 400px; /* The width it should be in IE 4-5.5 */
    voice-family: "\"}\""; /* This makes IE 4-5.5 think the rule has ended because it can't read it */
    voice-family: inherit; /* undo last rule for browser that understood it */
    width: 300px; /* the correct width for "normal" browsers */
    } [/php]
  • KwitkoKwitko Sheriff of Banning (Retired) By the thing near the stuff Icrontian
    edited July 2004
    That part I know. I shouldn't have to resort to tricks. It's easier to use tables for now. I did just fine with a combination of CSS and tables for my father's site. Came out XHTML 1.0 Strict compliant, too.
  • LincLinc Owner Detroit Icrontian
    edited July 2004
    Kwitko wrote:
    I shouldn't have to resort to tricks.
    True enough... but there will be necessary tricks for a long time to come, probably. At least it's a lot better than it used to be.

    (The whole tableless thing just appeals to me a lot :) )
  • KwitkoKwitko Sheriff of Banning (Retired) By the thing near the stuff Icrontian
    edited July 2004
    It appealed to me until I had to do a site using it.
  • LincLinc Owner Detroit Icrontian
    edited July 2004
    Kwitko wrote:
    It appealed to me until I had to do a site using it.
    ;D Touche. I guess I will see what happens in my attempt.
  • KwitkoKwitko Sheriff of Banning (Retired) By the thing near the stuff Icrontian
    edited July 2004
    Even Shorty won't do 100% CSS sites. Now what does *that* tell you? ;D
  • FreemymelodyFreemymelody On Earth
    edited September 2006
    mine are in...
  • jaredjared College Station, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2006
    XHTML (strict if possible but many times must settle for trans) + CSS + PHP = the best combo a web developer could ever ask for :bigggrin:

    Almost everything I do is completely tableless.. unless it is tabular data.. or unless css won't allow what I am trying to do. Most of the times there are work around and hacks, but occassionally it becomes overly complicated and you have to stick with what works.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2006
    Freemymelody wrote:
    mine are in...

    You've not posted in some time! It's good to see you around. :)
  • airbornflghtairbornflght Houston, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2006
    Mine are in.

    Im reading up on coding the entire site in XHTML transitional for the competition, though I would like to use strict. Im trying to go table less with it.
  • jhenryjhenry California's Wine Country
    edited September 2006
    XHTML 1.0 Strict or XHTML 1.1

    CSS of course
    Native DOM JS only
    PHP and Perl
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