XP-M 2500 45W better than an XP-M 2400 35W and XP-M 2600 45W?

abhi63abhi63 UK, Leeds
edited October 2004 in Hardware
Is an XP-M 2500 45W better than an XP-M 2400 35W and XP-M 2600 45W?

Thanks.
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  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited July 2004
    "better" in what way?
  • abhi63abhi63 UK, Leeds
    edited July 2004
    More potential for overclocking.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited July 2004
    Not as far as I know, no. To the best of my knowledge, the best overclocker of those three is the 2600m.
  • ShortyShorty Manchester, UK Icrontian
    edited July 2004
    Split and moved to overclocking :)
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited July 2004
    They make 2400m CPUs at 35W now? I know the highest clocke ones were 2200+. I would say for the 2400+ 35W CPU.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited July 2004
    Based on what I have seen and md my personal experience with my XP-M 2200 35W I would say that the XP-M 2400 35W is the one to get. I am getting without trying the same as peeps w/ the XP-M 2600. I also have another XP-M 220 35W in another machine running 11.5x 200 =2300 @ 1.6v that is cooled with a Coolermaster X-Silent and it is running 43C folding. :D
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited July 2004
    2300 on 1.6v? Daaaaaamn.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited July 2004
    Well you got 2.42 on 1.7 something.
  • EQuitoEQuito SoCal, USA
    edited July 2004
    Unless the price difference over there is too great, I'd go for the 2600+
    I'm quite happy with mine. I had it folding 24/7 @ 2.65GHz / 1.84v / 48c until recently but now with the HOT weather here in SoCal I had to back down to 2.5GHz / 1.63v / 44c
  • TexTex Dallas/Ft. Worth
    edited July 2004
    EQ: What program or utility were you running for that pci? Can you email it to me?

    Cheers

    Tex
  • EQuitoEQuito SoCal, USA
    edited July 2004
    Tex wrote:
    EQ: What program or utility were you running for that pci? Can you email it to me?

    Cheers

    Tex
    Central Brain Identifier

    YGM :cheers:
  • abhi63abhi63 UK, Leeds
    edited July 2004
    Does Windows recognise your XP Mobiles or does it just come up as "Unknown CPU type"?

    Does updating the AMD driver have any advantages?

    Thanks.
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited July 2004
    abhi63 wrote:
    Does Windows recognise your XP Mobiles or does it just come up as "Unknown CPU type"?

    Does updating the AMD driver have any advantages?

    Thanks.

    Thats a motherboard BIOS issue. It's not properly recognizing the Athlon XP-M.
  • abhi63abhi63 UK, Leeds
    edited July 2004
    Does it make any difference if my Motherboard doesn't recognise my XP-M?

    I have an A7N8X Deluxe 2.0 with newest BIOS, 1007.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited July 2004
    abhi63 wrote:
    Does it make any difference if my Motherboard doesn't recognise my XP-M?

    I have an A7N8X Deluxe 2.0 with newest BIOS, 1007.

    It doesn't matter with any board. Because it is a Mobile chip designed to chage with regard to load and heat it will never be regognized by any desktop mother board. That is basicly why we are using them. Due to this versitility they need to remain unlocked and they are also the cream of the crop so to speak because they need less voltage to run. All this equates to a better O/Cing chip than the desktop version.
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited August 2004
    mtgoat wrote:
    It doesn't matter with any board. Because it is a Mobile chip designed to chage with regard to load and heat it will never be regognized by any desktop mother board. That is basicly why we are using them. Due to this versitility they need to remain unlocked and they are also the cream of the crop so to speak because they need less voltage to run. All this equates to a better O/Cing chip than the desktop version.

    if the mobile will not be recognized by mobo, then, will the temperature utility on mobo tell me the temps of the cpu? or i will need some other temp monitoring things
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited August 2004
    noman wrote:
    if the mobile will not be recognized by mobo, then, will the temperature utility on mobo tell me the temps of the cpu? or i will need some other temp monitoring things


    A Mobile XP will boot with a default multiplier of 8X (Actual multipliers are unlocked and range up to 14x+). Since there is no official Barton with a clock of 1066mhz (8x 133.3mhz) It's an Unknown CPU. Otherwise it operates as and is treated as a regular Barton Core CPU

    Most motherboards use a temp probe underneath the CPU to measure temps anyway.

    My advice: Buy a Abit NF7-S v2, ANY XP Mobile, ANY Thermalright heatsink and build your computer.

    Stop worring so much. Every one here answering your questions (in all of your various threads and postings) has built at least 5 XP Mobile systems using both Air and Water cooling systems....
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited August 2004
    Omega65 wrote:
    My advice: Buy a Abit NF7-S v2, ANY XP Mobile, ANY Thermalright heatsink and build your computer.

    Ditto!!
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited September 2004
    i posted a thread in cooling section abt AS 3 ,AS 5 and AS ceramique... but nobody replied,
    AS 5 is like 2 bucks higher than ceramique,is it worth two extra bucks?
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida Member
    edited September 2004
    Think of it as two less *C! I don't really have any experience with the AS or cermique, but everyone says the AS5 is the best so I got that. Works great for me. :thumbsup:

    From all the reviews I've seen, it should perform maybe 1-2*C better.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited September 2004
    Yeah its not much better. I have all 2 and AS5 is the best. I dont use the ceramique because its really thick and hard to spread.

    A PCI video card will work with the NF7-S.:)
  • JustinJustin Atlanta
    edited September 2004
    What is the best way to insure you are getting v 2.0 on the NF7-S?
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited September 2004
    Buy a New one from Newegg, NF7-S or AN7 (or purchase a used one from someone reputable.)

    An AN7 is an slightly updated version of the NF7-S

    DO NOT buy a NF7 S2 or S2G! No multiplier options available in these versions.
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited September 2004
    guys one more thing..
    one tube like 2.3 or 3 grams is more than enough for one time. but how long does one tube last?like if i just keep the syringe unused ,will it expire sometime?
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida Member
    edited September 2004
    I got a 12-gram tube a while ago when I got my SP-94. It was months ago. I know I have over half of it left and me and a friend have used it multiple times for multiple applications. A 12-gram tube will last a long time. And I don't know if they ever expire. I know it can lose *SOME* of it's effectiveness but it will still work very well. It takes a long time for that to happen.
  • edited September 2004
    I'm still using some Arctic Silver 3 myself which is over a year old and no problems. As long as you keep the cap on the end of the tube, it shouldn't dry out or decompose.
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited September 2004
    i have xp2400m 35w ordered on newegg.----90
    getting alx 800 and tt smartfan2 svc.com for---16+10
    getting 3g AS 5 from svc for---6
    the rest that i am going to get is..from pakistan
    abit nf7-s v2
    some atx casing
    one stick of 256mb ddr 400 from kinston...not hyperX
    i got hdd,cdrom,floppy,monitor,modem etc already.
    ppl,if i am missing some crucial thing plz let me know.
    are those ram heatsinks or chipset coolers necessary ??when are those required?
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited September 2004
    today we built this system and it's rock solid at 2.5g/400fsb with ram at 2-2-2-11.
    I've left it folding overnight with some tinkers and we'll see in the morning ...if all is well I'll do some gromacs which should really put it throught the torture test. Did I mention stock voltages??? This thing is very quiet and very cool.

    antec 430w
    nf7-s v2
    35w mobile +2400
    sp-97 sandblasted
    as5
    sfII
    pc3200 dual pack 512
    raptor 75gb
    samsung 190t
    9800pro
    vga silencer
    wxp home oem

    my xp3000+/400 won't do this unless I kick it up to about 2.0v =0(
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited September 2004
    hi,
    good, ur system is sweet. but wht do u have to say abt mine? is it ok? and what abt the ram heatspreaders or chipset coolers..could u elaborate on that tooo?
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited September 2004
    hi,
    good, ur system is sweet
    . but wht do u have to say abt mine? is it ok? and what abt the ram heatspreaders or chipset coolers..could u elaborate on that tooo?
    :rolleyes:
    one more thing, i wont have tooo many things..i was thinking that some average or cheap psu will work for me,since i am short on money..
    what would u recomend i get? like how much Amps at 12v rail...
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