need help,only 3 days

nomannoman pakistan
edited September 2004 in Hardware
hi,

ppl, tell me among these which one will be good.
i have 1.35v 35w 2400m barton, will oc it.not many other peripherals like harddisks or zip drives. i use computer only 4-5 hours a day.

http://www.newegg.com/app/searchProductResult.asp?Submit=Go&Range=1&DEPA=0&bop=and&description=power+supply+amd&Order=price

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-939&depa=0

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-154-013&depa=0

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-915&depa=0

plz be as quick as u can.i need have it oredered within tomorrow

thnx in advance

Comments

  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2004
    I'd go with the allied one you linked to.
  • MediaManMediaMan Powered by loose parts.
    edited September 2004
    When choosing between 300 watts and 400 watts I would say 400 watts. When choosing between ALLIED, SPARKLE or FORTRON SOURCE I would say FORTRON SOURCE.

    In other words: If those are the only four you want to pick from choose wattage first therefore ALLIED. Fortron Source is the guts to many other power supplies that are reputable therfore if you can find a 400 watt Fortron Source then that may be a better choice.
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited September 2004
    ok, but i read some reviews and many ppl said that allied ones die quickly....
    and i think,fortron source is more stable(my guess).
    again the same dumb question.
    will stable, 300w ,long living,fortron source allow me to oc to,say 2500 mhz?
    or i would need a 400w allied one?
    what i am going to do is, oc my compter,
    a few peripherals, one cheap 3d card,one hdd,one cdrom,one fax modem internal, just minimum of things.
    but i want stability also.
    so choice comes down to

    stable but 300w
    fortron
    cheaper
    may be shaky but 400w
    allied---little expensive
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2004
    The fortron is unquestionably a better PS, I'm just not sure that 300w would be sufficient. Although honestly it should be... on second thought, the fortron might be a better choice.
  • BlackHawkBlackHawk Bible music connoisseur There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Icrontian
    edited September 2004
    300W is enough unless you want to upgrade later.
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited September 2004
    what video card will you be using?
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited September 2004
    i will be using radeon 9200-9700 kind of card.
    bye the way i have got this ordered..
    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-988&depa=0

    the other option for me is 232w no name power supply in pakistan. so i have opted for it.
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited September 2004
    hello.

    will it be ok?
    http://www.codegengroup.com/proddetail2.asp?id=28

    codegen is in the amd approved list
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited September 2004
    Dont be cheap with your PSU. Remember its the part that supplies your WHOLE system with power. Get a good one.
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited September 2004
    mmonnin wrote:
    Dont be cheap with your PSU. Remember its the part that supplies your WHOLE system with power. Get a good one.

    Ditto!
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited September 2004
    Codegen's are not bad, and not best. Fortron Source are better of what you listed to begin with. The thing to think about is this: If you do any upgrading, you will be needing 350 Watts minimum, possibly 375. So, Fortron is best choice. I might have another alternative, though not many folks here have used them and I use UPS's here so my PSU's do not have to deal with uneven power in. I use Just PC USA, Inc. OEMs (mfr'd by Channel Well Technology). They are decent to very good, depending on grade. I have a hyper-stable P4 system here that uses a Just PC USA (face brand) PSU that was mfr'd by Channel Well Technology-- it's running at 3 GHz. the PSU is a Just PC USA 425 W OEM grade. They also make a 350 Watt OEM, have not tried that here yet but given what I have done to the 425 Watt in stressing it I bought a bunch for folks with hurricane damaged computers. Very tight voltage, Intel 2.03 and AMD rated by Channel Well Technology. BTW, the particular 425 I am speaking of replaced a Codegen 500 Watt which was not as tight for voltages and switched a bit slower. Same hardware was more stable On the 425 Watt Just PC USA OEM than on the Codegen. I would favor Just PC USA PSUs EXCEPT for the bottom-line L&C OEM they sell as they themselves told me the Channel Well OEM was better and when I priced six-packs the L&C came out one cent less per unit at my wholesale cost. I am not selling these nationwide, I would say if you are anywhere near West Coast of US maybe go with a Just PC USA 425 unless you can get a Fortron Source 400 cheaper. That will let you upgrade, or later put more HDs and a better motherboard and a more hungry CPU and more RAM and still OC. Both my P4's here are OC'd a bit. I am not an extreme OC'er, they are only OC'd as to RAM and CPU timings about like this:

    Prescott nominal 2.8 GHz OC'd to 3.1 GHz, RAM is Corsair higher grade RAM nominal DDR333 OC'd to DDR400 and stable for months now running 24\7.

    Northwood nominal 2.8 GHz OC'd to 3.2 GHz, same OC on RAM.

    I have one running an Antec, one running a Just PC USA. I have swapped PSU's from one box to other and back and forth and let each run on same PSU for a week at a time, back and forth. NO difference in OCability or stability. When Hurricane Charley roared through, my XP box was about 80 miles south of ground zero processing some digital photos. When Frances roared through, it was in Punta Gorda processing some mroe damage photos of Charley damage to my town. I will not mention Ivan, mom and I bailed out to GA when it looked like Ivan would hit west coast, both boxes went along but the UPS stayed here so both boxes were down for four days. This is a testimony to APC's UPS and Channel Well Technology PSU technology together, I have almost zero farts out of boxes that are running on both. And both survived three hurricanes. The Antec PSU did too.

    I would say this in summary:

    Channel Well Technology grade for grade is so close to equal to Fortron Source of same grade that I cannot measure the difference. CodeGen is a slight step below BOTH, but very close. For OCing I would say skip Codegen, for normal non-OC'd computing Codegen and a Barton 2500+ work fine, and a high-end P4 also is stable. Allied is about as good as Codegen.

    Codegen is known in Far East, Channel Well Technology also, though thier stuff is also sold in Europe and by a limited number of bulk-buying suppliers in US. TigerDirect went to Channel Well from a mix of other brands of PSU due to returns of other brands of PSU, they bulk buy for Channel Well by pallet load. But for my needs the West Coast Channel Well OEM distributor is cheaper, and I live diagonally across the US from them. That distributor is Just PC USA.

    HTH.
  • edited September 2004
    I actually bought a ThermalTake 480w which is not bad at all. Supports all my high end hardware.
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited September 2004
    I only know 3 things when it comes to power supplies: Antec, Antec, and Antec.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2004
    GHoosdum wrote:
    I only know 3 things when it comes to power supplies: Antec, Antec, and Antec.
    I believe you mean "Antec, Enermax, and PC Power and Cooling" :p
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited September 2004
    I'd be willing to give PC Power & Cooling the nod in one of my systems, but Enermax is a definite no-go.
  • edited September 2004
    noman, Codegen psu's are cheap pieces of crap; I've gotten a few in some of their cases and they are cheaply made and also lightweight, which isn't a good sign in a quality psu. I recommend that you get the Thermaltake Silent PurePower, 420W ATX power supply for your machine. I have one and it's a pretty good psu for the price and even comes with a SATA power connector in case you want to upgrade to a SATA hard drive later. It's also not too expensive, but does provide stable power and it also has a nice weight to it, which generally indicates a better quality psu.
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited September 2004
    muddocktor wrote:
    noman, Codegen psu's are cheap pieces of crap; I've gotten a few in some of their cases and they are cheaply made and also lightweight, which isn't a good sign in a quality psu. I recommend that you get the Thermaltake Silent PurePower, 420W ATX power supply for your machine. I have one and it's a pretty good psu for the price and even comes with a SATA power connector in case you want to upgrade to a SATA hard drive later. It's also not too expensive, but does provide stable power and it also has a nice weight to it, which generally indicates a better quality psu.

    mudd, you've got one too many http's in your link. But I've had a Thermaltake PurePower 420 and thought it wasn't too bad, especially for the price.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2004
    GHoosdum wrote:
    I'd be willing to give PC Power & Cooling the nod in one of my systems, but Enermax is a definite no-go.

    Why? I have a 550 and 2 350w Enermaxes, and all three work very well.
    Oh, and mudd's link works now ;)
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited September 2004
    I've seen many people swear by Enermax, but anyone that's compared one against a similar Antec has found it lacking, judging by the reviews I've seen. For example, check out MM's PSU roundup.
  • edited September 2004
    GH, I have an Enermax 651P-VE 550 watt psu and it's a fine psu but it's definitely overpriced compared to a TruePower or TrueControl 550 Antec's. Besides it's inflated cost, I have no bitches about it.
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited September 2004
    hi,

    ok,bro's i am deep ****. :rarr: :banghead:
    all the stuff i talked bfor was ,i was getting those things from usa. but now the guy who would buy the things has come back here(pakistan) and no power supply that he bought.....so thats finsished..
    now here, there is no good power supply available.. i looked around a lot, it codegen was the only one that is available here and is also on amd site... rest of psu available are just ****ty chinese no name bull****s. :rarr:
    so thats it.....
    ps: i got a nf7-SL v2.0 and two sticks of kinston 256mb.
    i will post pics some time.
  • edited September 2004
    If the codegen or the cheap chinese crap is your only choices, then get the one with the highest power rating and you can always use the "weight" test. Generally, the better psu's weigh more than the cheap ones due to better quality heatsinks and components.
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