Will the VANTEC AeroFlow work with a 2500+ Barton? I was just wondering if the little circle of copper is big enough to cover the core. Thanks much for any help!
This Vantec Aeroflow has the TMD (tip magnetic driven) fan right? It should, and work very well, because that's what I have on my AMD Athlon XP2600+ which is overclocked from 2.08 to 2.25GHz.
THe copper core is a little bit bigger than the size of a quarter.
Becuase of the design of the fan, it allows for more CFM at a lower fan RPM speed. The heat sink body has fins ported around the copper core in the heat sink to allow air to reach near the core of the CPU to get it even cooler, oh and it is very quiet, even though it runs at 5500RPM.
About the TMD Fan:
COOLING POWER
It reduces 75% of traditional motor hub area. This revolutionary breakthrough not only increases 30% of airflow and static pressure, but also brings air stream directly to the centralized heat source. As a result, T.M.D. FAN improves the efficiency of heat dissipation at least 15%.
I use it on my 1700+, which OCs to 2000GHz rock stable. It's not the best OCer HSF, but it's very quiet for how well it cools.
I'd be interesting to see this sink made in all copper. It's possible it would rival the SLK-800.
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Straight_ManGeeky, in my own wayNaples, FLIcrontian
edited August 2003
Except that aluminum alloys do not corrode as fast as copper alloys-- so the copper alloys need to be protected more than aluminum alloys used today (these are not pure aluminum outer parts). And the coatings or the corrosion inhibit heat radiation, so copper needs to be replaced or claened a lot more often.
Besides aluminum alloy being cheaper, it is also more durable with regard to oxidative corrosion. I like the mixed-metal designs as I pick partly for durablility and longer term effectiveness of the heatsink as well as how well a fan can pull heat off of it. In homes and businesses down in my neck of the woods, that is critical because environment conditioning like removing very fine salt particles and moist air and cooling really well is hyper-expensive, so most computers live in a damper climate down here.
I'm not happy with my Aerocool on my Barton 2500+. I'm overclocking mine to 2300+Mhz and it is stable for F@H, but locks while video editing. It runs close to 60C under full abuse. I'm putting an SLK-900A on it.
I run my Vantec AeroFlow on my Barton 2500+ It does just fine, my temps are @ 122 right now in a 82 degree room... Its at stock because my memory doesn't like to be overclocked.
Ageek said Except that aluminum alloys do not corrode as fast as copper alloys-- so the copper alloys need to be protected more than aluminum alloys used today (these are not pure aluminum outer parts). And the coatings or the corrosion inhibit heat radiation, so copper needs to be replaced or claened a lot more often.
Besides aluminum alloy being cheaper, it is also more durable with regard to oxidative corrosion. I like the mixed-metal designs as I pick partly for durablility and longer term effectiveness of the heatsink as well as how well a fan can pull heat off of it. In homes and businesses down in my neck of the woods, that is critical because environment conditioning like removing very fine salt particles and moist air and cooling really well is hyper-expensive, so most computers live in a damper climate down here.
Just a southern perspective.
What?
You expect that we will have that same heatsink for what? 700 years? Unless you drain it in water, you wont see any corrosion as long as you live, and then some. I have copper frying pans hanging on the wall in the kitchen that must be from the stoneage(not really but they are made 1811) and there´s no sign whatsoever of any corrosion on those and no maintenance have been made on the either apart from the occasional dustremoving when you can´t see it´s original colour. Even in 90% humidity 24/7/365 you shouldn´t have any problems at all.
On top of that i have had tapwater without any additive running through 3 copper blocks and a big radiator for well over a year now. No corrosion there either.
danball1976 said
Becuase of the design of the fan, it allows for more CFM at a lower fan RPM speed. The heat sink body has fins ported around the copper core in the heat sink to allow air to reach near the core of the CPU to get it even cooler, oh and it is very quiet, even though it runs at 5500RPM.
You really think it's quiet, that is the loudest fan in my computer and i have a bunch. When I stop it everything is much quieter. It did drop my CPU temps by about 7 degrees C when compared to stock, everything is better than stock.
I removed my aeroflow from 2500+ Barton which was holding at 57C full load. I replaced it with an SLK900A with a Thermaltake Smartfan2 with the nice speed adjustment for the fan. Load temp is now 42C.
Must have been more than the change of the cooler. Maybe the former didnt have proper core contact. Infact, the old temps shows shows that was the case. That SLK900A must rock!
danball1976 said
Becuase of the design of the fan, it allows for more CFM at a lower fan RPM speed. The heat sink body has fins ported around the copper core in the heat sink to allow air to reach near the core of the CPU to get it even cooler, oh and it is very quiet, even though it runs at 5500RPM.
You really think it's quiet, that is the loudest fan in my computer and i have a bunch. When I stop it everything is much quieter. It did drop my CPU temps by about 7 degrees C when compared to stock, everything is better than stock.
Its the quietest fan in my case. I have 4 80mm case fans (Its a Lian-Li), and I hear the case fans more than I do the TMD fan.
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LeonardoWake up and smell the glaciersEagle River, AlaskaIcrontian
edited September 2003
It's not the best OCer HSF, but it's very quiet for how well it cools.
I'd say that's accurate. I'm running it in my system No. 1 at the overclock listed. Yes, it does allow me a stable overclock at that level, but full load (two instances of Folding simultaneous with 3DMark03) gives 59*C CPU core, with 27*C (80*F) ambient. It is fairly quiet. I think it performs quite well, considering you don't have to remove your motherboard to mount it. It's one of the less expensive heatsink/fan combos out there too.
Works great when the CPU is operating at stock speed. I just put an Barton 2500+, Aeroflow & Asus A7N8X system together to replacing an aging Athlon 800 here at home. The Aeroflow works great when the 2500 is at stock speeds, but anytime I nudge the overclock up past 2 GHz, it starts to get into a temperature range that I'm not comfortable with.
For $29.95 CDN, you really can't go wrong. And, it beats the hell out of the stock cooler
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LeonardoWake up and smell the glaciersEagle River, AlaskaIcrontian
Straight_ManGeeky, in my own wayNaples, FLIcrontian
edited September 2003
Well, here in Florida, we open the windows for a week and we get to polish our fry-pans with Brasso. and if I leave the windows open contacts on mobo corrode within a year of coming out of box.
BUT, our ambient moisture is both slightly acidic and has salts and ions from the salt water canal out back evaporating. If you are not near a lake, or canal, or salt water body, you will have much less corrosion. Alos, up north you will have cooler temps and less electrolysis (ever noticed that ambient temp increases accellerate electrolysis by a LOT??) and we have a LOT of hot damp weather down here.
Up in MI the copper pipes took years to turn green, and the Rival pans also. Down here, copper piping is not used for plumbing, we use plastic to avoid copper dripping green stuff on tile floors and to avoid moisture damage when pipes blow decades before before they would blow up north from age and electrolytic corrosion reactions weakening them. The chrome toilet connections are through the chrome after three years, the outside supplemental inline hot water heater which dad said to run with COPPER had to be replaced as the lines gave out and the hot water heater died so fast it was warranty replaced.
Your milage varies from mine due in part to climactics. LOTS of differences mean different needs for different folks. Not decades, try polishing the open to air heat sink face every 6-8 months down here to take corrosion off as the particles insulate when dropped onto other things IF there is not enough copper left for them to short out what they hit. The part covered with the Ceramique is essentially corrosion tight as no moisture can enter it worth a hoot.
I have this on my barton, and it much cooler than stock temps. It also allows an overclock to 2.3Ghz @ 1.8V and the temps don't get too much higher than 53C under full load.
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THe copper core is a little bit bigger than the size of a quarter.
Becuase of the design of the fan, it allows for more CFM at a lower fan RPM speed. The heat sink body has fins ported around the copper core in the heat sink to allow air to reach near the core of the CPU to get it even cooler, oh and it is very quiet, even though it runs at 5500RPM.
About the TMD Fan:
<a href="http://www.vantec.com.tw/afc250.html" target="_blank"><img border="0" alt="Click here to view the Vantec AeroFlow" src="http://www.vantec.com.tw/aeroflow.jpg"></a>
I'd be interesting to see this sink made in all copper. It's possible it would rival the SLK-800.
Besides aluminum alloy being cheaper, it is also more durable with regard to oxidative corrosion. I like the mixed-metal designs as I pick partly for durablility and longer term effectiveness of the heatsink as well as how well a fan can pull heat off of it. In homes and businesses down in my neck of the woods, that is critical because environment conditioning like removing very fine salt particles and moist air and cooling really well is hyper-expensive, so most computers live in a damper climate down here.
Just a southern perspective.
Non OC it is a good cooler for it though.
2000ghz...wow!!!! That's one hell of an overclock...I need one of those HSF's
What?
You expect that we will have that same heatsink for what? 700 years? Unless you drain it in water, you wont see any corrosion as long as you live, and then some. I have copper frying pans hanging on the wall in the kitchen that must be from the stoneage(not really but they are made 1811) and there´s no sign whatsoever of any corrosion on those and no maintenance have been made on the either apart from the occasional dustremoving when you can´t see it´s original colour. Even in 90% humidity 24/7/365 you shouldn´t have any problems at all.
On top of that i have had tapwater without any additive running through 3 copper blocks and a big radiator for well over a year now. No corrosion there either.
so mean!!! :P
You really think it's quiet, that is the loudest fan in my computer and i have a bunch. When I stop it everything is much quieter. It did drop my CPU temps by about 7 degrees C when compared to stock, everything is better than stock.
Must have been more than the change of the cooler. Maybe the former didnt have proper core contact. Infact, the old temps shows shows that was the case. That SLK900A must rock!
Its the quietest fan in my case. I have 4 80mm case fans (Its a Lian-Li), and I hear the case fans more than I do the TMD fan.
I'd say that's accurate. I'm running it in my system No. 1 at the overclock listed. Yes, it does allow me a stable overclock at that level, but full load (two instances of Folding simultaneous with 3DMark03) gives 59*C CPU core, with 27*C (80*F) ambient. It is fairly quiet. I think it performs quite well, considering you don't have to remove your motherboard to mount it. It's one of the less expensive heatsink/fan combos out there too.
For $29.95 CDN, you really can't go wrong. And, it beats the hell out of the stock cooler
No way I can argue against that!
BUT, our ambient moisture is both slightly acidic and has salts and ions from the salt water canal out back evaporating. If you are not near a lake, or canal, or salt water body, you will have much less corrosion. Alos, up north you will have cooler temps and less electrolysis (ever noticed that ambient temp increases accellerate electrolysis by a LOT??) and we have a LOT of hot damp weather down here.
Up in MI the copper pipes took years to turn green, and the Rival pans also. Down here, copper piping is not used for plumbing, we use plastic to avoid copper dripping green stuff on tile floors and to avoid moisture damage when pipes blow decades before before they would blow up north from age and electrolytic corrosion reactions weakening them. The chrome toilet connections are through the chrome after three years, the outside supplemental inline hot water heater which dad said to run with COPPER had to be replaced as the lines gave out and the hot water heater died so fast it was warranty replaced.
Your milage varies from mine due in part to climactics. LOTS of differences mean different needs for different folks. Not decades, try polishing the open to air heat sink face every 6-8 months down here to take corrosion off as the particles insulate when dropped onto other things IF there is not enough copper left for them to short out what they hit. The part covered with the Ceramique is essentially corrosion tight as no moisture can enter it worth a hoot.
Not a putdown, a variance in ambient conditions.
John.