Geeky1University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
edited October 2004
I don't dislike the Raptor at all. In fact, I just mentioned the other day in the staff forum that Raptors might be a good idea for a new server (if we ever get one), since they're cheaper than SCSI drives...
HOWEVER, there are better choices for desktop drives. $100 for a 40GB drive, for a desktop, is absurd. Especially when you consider that to store all of my data, plus have room for a backup, I'd need ~20 36GB Raptors. And I'm not the only one around here with 400GB of data. Seagate still warranties their desktop drives for 5 years... if you're THAT worried about it, get one of them. Shorty has had at least one Raptor die, I believe, so you know, it happens... The bottom line is that as far as I'm concerned, there are better options out there for consumer and enthusiast-level systems than the 36GB Raptor.
$100 for a 40GB drive, for a desktop, is absurd. Especially when you consider that to store all of my data, plus have room for a backup, I'd need ~20 36GB Raptors.
Now, you're not being realistic here, are you? I'm not advocating using Raptors to store everything, rather, just use them for the main OS.
In my Raptor based system, I have two 80Gb storage drives myself, both IDE devices. They're fine for accessing stuff on an occasional basis.
I dare say if I wanted to load all my backup DVD's permanently onto one computer, I may need 400Gb+ myself.
But I wouldn't use the Raptors, I'd use a couple of 200Gb IDE devices, or SATA drives, if the motherboard had enough SATA ports.
Methinks you're warping the argument somewhat.
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Geeky1University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
edited October 2004
Methinks you're warping the argument somewhat.
Not intentionally... And no one has given me a good reason to use a 36GB Raptor in a desktop environment yet anyhow. At least the 74GB drives have some redeeming qualities to offset the price...
I like my 2 36gb Raptors. I have them in raid 0 and they seem faster and more responsive than any other raid setup I have used. If I was to do it over I would get the 74gb drives instead.
I didn't read the whole thread but IMHO a 36GB Raptor ($109 @ NewEgg) would be a waste of money. You could buy a pair of Hitachi 80GB SATA ($128 @ NewEgg) and raid'em for just about the same price but 4 times the storage capacity.
$70 is an excellent price (don't know where cause PriceWatch shows $104 lowest) but I still wouldn't pay that for a 36GB drive. Capacity/price ratio is too high to justify a minimal performance increase.
I like my 2 36gb Raptors. I have them in raid 0 and they seem faster and more responsive than any other raid setup I have used. If I was to do it over I would get the 74gb drives instead.
Me too, actually.
I didn't mention I bought my pair used, did I. For about 65% of full retail price, both around 9 months old.
The choice to buy a Raptor drive new for use in a home desktop machine ultimately lies with the purchaser. I'll agree it's a lot of money to lay out for a relatively small increase in performance.
But there ya go, nothing good comes cheap, usually.
Gobbles, I tried, I really did. I tried to split the thread off into something else, but people were posting as I was splitting, and I just had to merge them all back together and rename the thread to make any sense
$70 is an excellent price (don't know where cause PriceWatch shows $104 lowest) but I still wouldn't pay that for a 36GB drive. Capacity/price ratio is too high to justify a minimal performance increase.
Cheers!
Outpost had them for that price yesterday with a $30 mir. As mentioned several times in this thread, nobody in their right mind buy this drive cause of it's capacity. The only single drive that beats this drive in terms of speed and access time, is it's bigger brother which also is starting to go down in price. $149 or so ,last i checked which also was yesterday.
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HOWEVER, there are better choices for desktop drives. $100 for a 40GB drive, for a desktop, is absurd. Especially when you consider that to store all of my data, plus have room for a backup, I'd need ~20 36GB Raptors. And I'm not the only one around here with 400GB of data. Seagate still warranties their desktop drives for 5 years... if you're THAT worried about it, get one of them. Shorty has had at least one Raptor die, I believe, so you know, it happens... The bottom line is that as far as I'm concerned, there are better options out there for consumer and enthusiast-level systems than the 36GB Raptor.
Now, you're not being realistic here, are you? I'm not advocating using Raptors to store everything, rather, just use them for the main OS.
In my Raptor based system, I have two 80Gb storage drives myself, both IDE devices. They're fine for accessing stuff on an occasional basis.
I dare say if I wanted to load all my backup DVD's permanently onto one computer, I may need 400Gb+ myself.
But I wouldn't use the Raptors, I'd use a couple of 200Gb IDE devices, or SATA drives, if the motherboard had enough SATA ports.
Methinks you're warping the argument somewhat.
Not intentionally... And no one has given me a good reason to use a 36GB Raptor in a desktop environment yet anyhow. At least the 74GB drives have some redeeming qualities to offset the price...
$70 is an excellent price (don't know where cause PriceWatch shows $104 lowest) but I still wouldn't pay that for a 36GB drive. Capacity/price ratio is too high to justify a minimal performance increase.
Cheers!
Me too, actually.
I didn't mention I bought my pair used, did I. For about 65% of full retail price, both around 9 months old.
The choice to buy a Raptor drive new for use in a home desktop machine ultimately lies with the purchaser. I'll agree it's a lot of money to lay out for a relatively small increase in performance.
But there ya go, nothing good comes cheap, usually.
Outpost had them for that price yesterday with a $30 mir. As mentioned several times in this thread, nobody in their right mind buy this drive cause of it's capacity. The only single drive that beats this drive in terms of speed and access time, is it's bigger brother which also is starting to go down in price. $149 or so ,last i checked which also was yesterday.
Cheers old friend!