Retail vs OEM 3500...and HSF

JakethJaketh Ohio Member
edited January 2005 in Hardware
Why is this retail amd 64 3500+ http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-463&depa=0

cheaper than the oem version ?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-494&depa=0


I see the OEM is 90nm and the retail in .13.... is that the reason? which is better ?

What's the best HSF combo for these 64 chips? I have an slk-800 on my 2100xp, I imagine going to the new socket means a new HSF purchase...thanks for any help!

Comments

  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited December 2004
    Its because the second is 90nm. They are better. Ive seen benchmarks where even at the same speed, 90nm beats the 130nm in most tests.
  • JakethJaketh Ohio Member
    edited December 2004
    makes sense. overclockability any better or is it too early to tell?
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited December 2004
    90nm CPUs OC much better than the 130nm process.
  • JakethJaketh Ohio Member
    edited December 2004
    excellent. assume I don't have to worry about locked multipliers and whatnot again do I? (sorry for the basic ?s, haven't kept up to date since my last upgrade)

    thanks for all the help. Ohioans unite :cool:
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited December 2004
    One thing to keep in mind is that the retail AMD CPU's come with a 3-Year warranty. The OEM versions get you only 90 days.

    Having said that, I don't recall ever having a CPU run for 90 days and then later fail. Once you get past the burn-in point they seem to keep on going, barring an outside catastrophe like a HSF failure.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited December 2004
    Uhhh not sure about the multipliers. IF any there might be lower multipliers available.
  • JimboraeJimborae Newbury, Berks, UK New
    edited December 2004
    Jaketh wrote:
    excellent. assume I don't have to worry about locked multipliers and whatnot again do I? (sorry for the basic ?s, haven't kept up to date since my last upgrade)

    thanks for all the help. Ohioans unite :cool:


    Lower multipliers are unlocked so that Amd Cool n' Quiet can work, higher than the chip's default multiplier are not available except for the FX cpu's.
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited December 2004
    profdlp wrote:
    One thing to keep in mind is that the retail AMD CPU's come with a 3-Year warranty. The OEM versions get you only 90 days.

    Having said that, I don't recall ever having a CPU run for 90 days and then later fail. Once you get past the burn-in point they seem to keep on going, barring an outside catastrophe like a HSF failure.

    Thats 3-year warranty is over when he slap on another heatsink anyway. You can't even change the goop without voiding the damn thing.
  • dstyle347dstyle347 Boston
    edited January 2005
    warranty laws fall heavily in favor of the consumer. It's up to the manufacturer to prove that any modifications were made or imposed and that those modifications are without a doubt the specific reason for the failure or fault of the product. A lot of manufacturers get away with more than they are permitted because people rarely understand the laws and their rights. I'm a factory tech for Honda, Kawasaki and Ducati and I spent a lot of time studying warranty laws. They try to scare people into keeping your business in the company. If you slap on a new exhaust can or perform your own maintanence you technically void your warranty but all the manufacturers know if anything goes wrong that is not 100% positively a consequence of exhaust or improper maintanence by law your covered and even if it were related they would have to prove it was your fault. Computer hardware, I realize is an entirely seperate industry that i know nothing about but I believe the laws are the same (and vary heavily by location). If your Oc'ing balls out than your probably screwed if it blows up but I'm not letting someone deny a claim on a cpu because the heatsink or grease were not to their preference.

    If you own a motorcycle - a shop cannot deny a warranty claim, only the manufacturer can. They like taking your money, flat rate warranty work does'nt pay well so they lie to avoid it..

    I know, I know, wrong forum. 'cause it hurts to scroll right?..

    Is the warranty on OEM cpu's from the manufacturer or newegg? There is no manufacturers warranty on OEM is there?
  • lemonlimelemonlime Canada Member
    edited January 2005
    Mackanz wrote:
    Thats 3-year warranty is over when he slap on another heatsink anyway. You can't even change the goop without voiding the damn thing.

    Yikes, guess I should just go ahead and rip off my IHS then :thumbsup:
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited January 2005
    mackanz... that's why you don't tell AMD these things when you RMA your retail CPU :p
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