Tyan's response to the Iwill DK8ES...

Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
edited January 2005 in Hardware
Check this thing out.
http://www2.technobabble.com.au/article217.html
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20030

2 CPU sockets, 8 DIMM slots, SLI. Those it has in common with the Iwill DK8ES.

HOWEVER, it uses TWO nForce4 chipsets instead of one, potentially allowing for two PCI-Express x16 slots, and according to that article, they'll be expanding it to 4 CPUs sometime next year.

If that boards overclocks at all... (which it probably won't, but I can dream...) *drools*

Comments

  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited December 2004
    Ok, I managed to track down some detailed specs.
    http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19999
    TheInquirer wrote:
    Tyan's dual Opteron, Nvidia board has rather nifty specs

    Throughput put through

    By INQUIRER staff: Thursday 02 December 2004, 08:00
    SOURCES CLOSE to Nvidia have spelled out the specifications of its S2895 board.

    This Tyan board supports dual Opterons, a dual PCI Express X16 interface and other interesting features.

    The eATX 12x13-inch board will support 16GB of memory DDR333/400, Chipkill support, and ECC. For storage, the S2895 supports four port S-ATA with RAID and ATA-133. It will also have a dual port Ultra 320 SCSI interface with 15 devices a channel, so a total of 30 channels.

    There is also dual Gigabit Ethernet, Firewire, USB 2.0, and integrated ADI1981B audio which has six channels and AC97 compliance.

    Other features include a 64-bit 133MHz PCI-X bus A, a 64-bit 100MHz PCI-X bus B, and 32-bit PCI capabilities.

    There's also ACPI 1.0b/2.0 compliance and the power supply configuration is a 24+8+8 pin SSI EEB 3.51 jobbie, with common and split plane PSU support.

    Tyan is likely to sell a couple of models, and they're likely to be available at the end of this month at $400 and $500 - these are not retail prices, but channel figures. µ

    Sounds like the only things its missing are an obscene number of SATA RAID ports (I'd like to see oh, I dunno... 8, 10, 12, 14... maybe 16?), firewire B, and at least one PCI-E x1 slot. Oh, and the 32-bit PCI slot is in a really, really, reallyreally bad position. As are the power connectors. But that's fine. I can deal with that. I think. Especially if it overclocks. :D
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited December 2004
    Holy crap that thing is huge!
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited December 2004
    you know, the funny thing is that I do basically nothing that uses 2 CPUs... I don't game that often anymore... but I have this overwhelming desire to buy this board (or the DK8ES) or-better yet-the quad CPU version of it when it comes out, and 2 6800 Ultras or something... :D
  • ShortyShorty Manchester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2004
    Wow :drool:
  • TexTex Dallas/Ft. Worth
    edited December 2004
    Geeky1 wrote:
    you know, the funny thing is that I do basically nothing that uses 2 CPUs... I don't game that often anymore... but I have this overwhelming desire to buy this board (or the DK8ES) or-better yet-the quad CPU version of it when it comes out, and 2 6800 Ultras or something... :D

    Sure you do. With todays OS's they actually use both CPU's for many common tasks that are simply multi tasking. You mean to tell me you never even do two things at once geeky? For a single program to use both it has to be threaded and most office buisness apps are anymore. But the OS will try and balance the cpu usage and use both cpu's for differant programs even for non threaded apps.

    Tex
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited December 2004
    I think he means like any kind of server application and that sort of thing.
  • TexTex Dallas/Ft. Worth
    edited December 2004
    The point being almost anything takes advantage of the dual cpu's. You don't need an Oracle database. The OS tries to balance the cpu usage itself so even if your just doing two things at once that individualy don't use the second cpu the OS will balance the cpu usage for you and start the second process on the second cpu if the first is being used.

    Like running a browser and surfing the net and having a spreadsheet open but the process's get assigned to seperate cpu's by teh OS. Those are not server activities.

    tex
  • NeuroelectronicNeuroelectronic
    edited January 2005
    :wtf: Yea that sounds nice and dandy but the truth is TYANs enthusiast boards suck ass. I have a Tyan Thunder K8W (s2885) The first one i got was fried, no big deal it happens.

    The problem is the AGP port is very unstable. They released new drivers but for all i can tell they made things worse. :shakehead http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=29149 They don't even uninstall cleanly. Doing some things that use hardware 3D causes the computer to lock up and loop, and eventually reboot. Half-Life 2 does this as soon as it loads. strangly DooM 3 runs like a dream. most likely because John Carmack is a genious and he programs around hardware errors for compatiblity.

    They havn't released any drivers in years for this problem and frankly i don't think they give a sh!t. after looking at this new boards design i don't think they will ever get it to be stable. Im refering to the two Nvidia CK8-04 chips working in tandem. I just don't think the chipset was designed to work this way and games and such aren't going to be able to support it.

    This time I'm going with Iwill. Last time Iwill released a dual opteron AGP solution i went with Tyan since they had 2 memory controllers, to Iwill's one. This looks like a repeat of history, and i'm not making the same mistake twice. I expect more out of a $500 mobo.

    IF you were able to keep up with my rant, any comments? :D :
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