watercooling

tmh88tmh88 Pittsburgh / Athens, OH
edited February 2005 in Hardware
Alright I'm back, and this time its for watercooling my pc. I'm looking for a decent watercooling kit to use on my socket 754 Amd Athlon 64 3200+, which is a socket 754. Any advice/suggestions will do.

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  • tmh88tmh88 Pittsburgh / Athens, OH
    edited January 2005
    I forgot to add, that I dont want to overclock(Im still deciding whether or not to), but anway the main reason I want to watercool my pc, is to eliminate the noise. I want to get rid of a few fans because right now I have 3 case fans +heatsink fan + vidcard fan which = Loud! So it doesnt have to be the coldest one, or the best. I just want a decent one, and that will do a better job than your average non watercooled pc Thanks
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited January 2005
    The way i see it is that since you will not overclock, at least not to the extreme levels, you should be able to passively cool the GPU and the fan on the mainboard.
    That leaves you with a cpu block, radiator and a pump. Get the Swiftech S754/S939 stuff i would say.
  • rykoryko new york
    edited January 2005
    i vote for the zalman reserator since there are no extra fans, and silence being the most important thing for you...
  • tmh88tmh88 Pittsburgh / Athens, OH
    edited January 2005
    I mean, if I'm gonna overclock, then I wont care about the noise, but for now, I want it to be quiet, and eventually if i decide to overclock, I'll buy more fans/necessary parts . So basically what I'm saying is for now I just want a basic kit, that isn't a piece of crap, but isn't incredible. I would prefer a kit, but if i can buy the parts seperately and get it cheaper that would be nice.

    a link to a watercooling kit would be nice!
  • tmh88tmh88 Pittsburgh / Athens, OH
    edited January 2005
    Is this the swiftech kit that you were talking about Mackanz, or like it?

    http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-h2o-80-fk-black.html

    This one seems alot better, because its basically everything in one unit, and it shows the temperature of the water http://www.xoxide.com/aquagate.html

    Also I can tolerate some noise, its not like I want complete silence. I mean I already have 5 fans in my computer total, so having 2 would sound like silence to me.

    Also I was just wondering about how cold can an average watercooled cpu be on full load if it is oc'd or not? celcius or fahrenheit it doesnt matter.
  • leishi85leishi85 Grand Rapids, MI Icrontian
    edited January 2005
    the temp depends on your ambient temp.
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited January 2005
    I honestly don't know a single person who have that aquagate thing. But performance wise, the Swiftech kit will be much better i'm sure. I agree though, that everything in one unit is nice and handy. One problem though: What do you do if you get a leak inside that box? Send the unit in for X amount of shipping money? Nah.
  • tmh88tmh88 Pittsburgh / Athens, OH
    edited January 2005
    Yea good idea, I'll probably get that swiftech kit that i put the link for. If anybody knows any cheaper ones that are just as good, or any better ones that cost a little bit more($30 -40 more) please put a link for me.

    I cant believe how easy it is to have answers to all my questions here. This is by far the best computer forum site ever. thanks for all your help
  • MissilemanMissileman Orlando, Florida Icrontian
    edited January 2005
    I got the Exos-AL kit with there 300 Watt waterblock quite a while ago. It has cooled my PressHot 3.2Ghz and then my AMD 3800+. It works great. Makes almost no noise and my temps at full load stay at 34C with an ambient temp of 29C.

    It's easy to set up, auto flow monitoring and dual pump all in a contained unit.


    worth a look if you ask me.
  • GnomeWizarddGnomeWizardd Member 4 Life Akron, PA Icrontian
    edited January 2005
    I love my Zalman reserator. I run a A64 3400+ oc'ed and it runs 98*F
  • tmh88tmh88 Pittsburgh / Athens, OH
    edited January 2005
    Alright can you guys send me links to your cooling kits, and whats the approximate cost of them? Hey Missleman how many watts is your powersupply?

    My computer already runs cool, but mainly because I have 2 80mm case fans, and a big 120 mm, + a new decent heatsink. On full load my cpu will go to about 110*F, and idle around 100*F
  • MissilemanMissileman Orlando, Florida Icrontian
    edited January 2005
    I have a True Control 550W Antec. I just didn't want anybody to claim I didn't have enough power :)

    Heres the Exos link : http://www.koolance.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=28_41&products_id=89

    and on NewEgg : http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-155-987&depa=0

    And the CPU Block : http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-155-986&depa=0

    The block adapter for the A64 was like 6 bucks or so. I had to order it from Koolance directly.
  • GnomeWizarddGnomeWizardd Member 4 Life Akron, PA Icrontian
    edited January 2005
    comes with waterblock and everything. minimal assembly ( install the block and run the lines ) and no extra fans.

    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-118-111&depa=1
  • tmh88tmh88 Pittsburgh / Athens, OH
    edited January 2005
    The zalman one seems to do the job, but I dont want a huge external one. I would prefer an internal system.
  • GnomeWizarddGnomeWizardd Member 4 Life Akron, PA Icrontian
    edited January 2005
    thats why i went with it. no reservoir in the system less water inside. One less thing inside to leak
  • tmh88tmh88 Pittsburgh / Athens, OH
    edited January 2005
    good point
  • rykoryko new york
    edited January 2005
    here are some links for you to check out...

    swiftech h20-120 rev. 3.0 kit
    http://www.svc.com/h20-120-fk-28.html

    swiftech vga water block
    http://www.svc.com/mcw50-k-28.html

    zalman reserator
    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-118-111&depa=1

    zalman vga water block
    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-118-218&depa=1

    I am not to sure about this kit below from thermaltake, but i am curious about it if someone else can shed some light on it. I know it's performance won't be near as good as the swiftech, but it is cheaper if you are on a budget.

    themaltake big water kit
    http://www.svc.com/cl-w0005-14.html
  • edited January 2005
    I know that hardocp seems to think a lot of the Koolance Exos system that Missileman linked to there, tmh88. For a stock all-in-1 setup it's supposed to perform pretty well and everything external just sits on top your present case, since you don't seem to care for the big cooling tower the reserator has.
  • tmh88tmh88 Pittsburgh / Athens, OH
    edited January 2005
    I was looking at that one. I dont mind the one that just sits on top of the case. thanks for the help.
  • JimboraeJimborae Newbury, Berks, UK New
    edited January 2005
    If you're not overclocking & slience is your goal, then i think a Zalman Reserator is right up your street.
  • tmh88tmh88 Pittsburgh / Athens, OH
    edited January 2005
    Actually, I'm not sure if I want to watercool my system now. My new heatink is doing very very well. I think the arctic silver 5 is starting to kick in. My cpu idle's around 93-95*F(35*C), and at 100% I haven't seen it go above 105*F. I'm probably just going to achieve the queitness by buying stealth fans for now, but I will definately eventually watercool my system. At least I know what to look for in a kit now

    Thanks everyone for the help
  • JimboraeJimborae Newbury, Berks, UK New
    edited January 2005
    ryko wrote:
    here are some links for you to check out...

    I am not to sure about this kit below from thermaltake, but i am curious about it if someone else can shed some light on it. I know it's performance won't be near as good as the swiftech, but it is cheaper if you are on a budget.

    themaltake big water kit
    http://www.svc.com/cl-w0005-14.html

    Speak to Dragon V8 & Jon's Handbrake (Sally) about these kits as they used them. Reading the reviews they appear to have done remarkably well considering it's a cheap kit. I'm pretty sure Sally seemed to like them.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited January 2005
    tmh88,
    From what I gather so far it sounds like most of you noise, however much it is is coming from a combination of the 2 case fans, the chipset fan on the MB and the VGA fan on your graphics card. It is generally the smaller fans that make not only the most noise but also the noise that is most annoying. If you have a 120mm fan on you CPU heatsink then you are farther ahead of most folks in terms of reducing the noise level of you 'puter as that it usually a 80mm or smaller fan turning at a much higher RPM than what is on there now. As far as going H2O is concerned I would suggest waiting and maybe going to a better case that utilizes larger 120mm fans instead of the 80mm fans in your current case first. Then if you still want to go water you will have a better case to work with and might be willing to consider a custom water system that would work better than any pre-built or self contained unit. Of course, if it is a decentcase that is capeable of being modded to accept 120mm fans, you could do that too.

    Just some food for thought. ;)
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited January 2005
    There's nothing more fun than assemblying a nice watercooling setup. Way more fun than phasechange for example which is rather bulky to deal with.
  • lemonlimelemonlime Canada Member
    edited January 2005
    Mackanz wrote:
    There's nothing more fun than assemblying a nice watercooling setup. Way more fun than phasechange for example which is rather bulky to deal with.

    I totally agree. I really had no idea how big of a project it was going to be at first. I must have spent over 24 hours spread out over several days getting my rig all prepped. Its a lot of fun and it can be quite rewarding. For anyone who likes tinkering with hardware and overclocking, it's a joy.. Especially when you boot up for the first time, and see temps in the mid-30s at full load. I was able to squeeze some extra life out of my previously stubborn cpu, and get a tremendous boost in GPU overclocking.
  • Ghaleon4Ghaleon4 South Oklahoma
    edited February 2005
    I wonder how hard it would be to put a condenser/compressor (whatever) somewhere into the water loop...to cool the water on a Zalman Reserator?

    I'm getting one, but everyone keeps saying "Since you're not overclocking, the reserator will work great!"...so does that mean that it's not so good for overclocking? Someone please spell this out for me.
    Here's the impression I'm under:
    It may not be the best for overclocking when compared to other water cooling systems, but it'll almost always be superior compared to any form of air cooling, right?
  • NiGHTSNiGHTS San Diego Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    Along with what Ghaleon is saying, can the reserator handle the 6800 temps and all that too?
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited February 2005
    The reserator was never intended for overclocking and as far as I recall roughly equals high end air cooling for performance.

    NiGHTS: I doubt it can handle a 6800 and a high end CPU.

    You both might consider having a fan or two blow on it. Be the easiest thing to do to improve performance...
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