Computer over = very yes

DodgerDodger
edited January 2005 in Hardware
Ok, I received a brand new Aspire X-Dream II case. I transfered all of my original components into the new case in the same fashion I installed them on my previous. However, when I booted up, absolutely nothing happened. I am getting power, but nothing comes up on the screen. I lost the beeps, I lost the creeps, and I lost the sweeps. I currently have the following hooked up...

CPU w/ heatsink and fan
2 slots of RAM
Video Card
All neccessary motherbaord power connectors

All IDE cables and like are not plugged. I have a 420w power supply. I tried clearing both the CCMOS and the BIOS. Same results. Someone please help me! :bawling:

Comments

  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited January 2005
    Sounds like a case short! Take the bare components (Like you described you're currently running with) and run it on a piece of wood, cardboard or something else non-conductive and see if it boots.
  • TheSmJTheSmJ
    edited January 2005
    Otherwise it could be a damaged CPU.

    The fans all go on, correct?
  • DodgerDodger
    edited January 2005
    Taking out the motherbaord and all that jazz and placing them on a non-conductive surface didn't do anything. Any other ideas?

    How could I have possibly damaged my cpu? It was never even touched during the transfer-of-parts. And yes, all fans and the like turn on. Including the little LED's near the FP101 connectors.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited January 2005
    could be a bad PS. Try taking the old ps out of your old case and using that and see what happens.
  • DodgerDodger
    edited January 2005
    I just got this power-supply not even 2 months ago. It's ThermalTake brand... how could it be bad already?
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited January 2005
    How does a brand new car break down on the side of the road?
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited January 2005
    There are a few things that can potentially cause a PC to not display anything when it's booting (or not booting):

    -bad/improperly seated cpu
    -bad/improperly seated ram
    -bad/improperly seated video card
    -monitor cable disconnected/not seated all the way
    -bad power supply or improperly seated power connector
    -bad motherboard
  • DodgerDodger
    edited January 2005
    Well, I think I figured it out... the motherboard was touching some bare-metal I booted it up. It short-circuited the M/B for sure. All that's left it to order a new motherboard and hope the damage wasn't too severe...
  • flyriceflyrice
    edited January 2005
    OUCH. That sucks.
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited January 2005
    Yep, that ranks pretty darn high on the old Suck-O-Meter for sure!
  • DodgerDodger
    edited January 2005
    Ok, I got my new motherboard and processor thursday... I installed everything with the upmost caution. I booted it up and guess what...... IT STILL DIDN'T WORK!!! WTH is wrong with this thing? Here are my new specs...

    Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000+
    Motherboard: Abit NF8
    Video Card: Radeon 9800 Pro Ultimate 256mb
    RAM: 1 stick of Kingston PC3200 (512mb) and 1 stick of Samsung PC2700 (256mb)
    Powersupply: Thermaltake 420w
    Harddrive: Western Digital 80gb 7200RPM

    Still no beeps or anything. I know it isn't the power supply because I tested a brand-new 350w PS and got the same results. Could my RAM be bad? If it is, wouldn't the motherboard make a series of beeping noises? This is seriously started to tick me off...
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited January 2005
    Have you tried one stick at a time in different slots? Yes, if it is memory related, you would normally hear error beeps, but it wouldn't hurt to try.

    Take out the cpu, and make sure no pins are bent on them or if a pin is cut off.
    Any chance you can borrow another stick from a friend, or even better, borrow another S754 cpu? Is there some sort of debug led on that mainboard? Many mainboards have that. Is the cpu-fan inserted into the right header?
  • DodgerDodger
    edited January 2005
    MackanzOCZ wrote:
    Have you tried one stick at a time in different slots? Yes, if it is memory related, you would normally hear error beeps, but it wouldn't hurt to try.

    Take out the cpu, and make sure no pins are bent on them or if a pin is cut off.
    Any chance you can borrow another stick from a friend, or even better, borrow another S754 cpu? Is there some sort of debug led on that mainboard? Many mainboards have that. Is the cpu-fan inserted into the right header?

    I might be able to borrow some parts from a friend... but I don't think he could get out here anytime soon. I will try switching the RAM and stuff around.
  • DodgerDodger
    edited January 2005
    Still didn't work. Anybody got any other idea's?:(
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited January 2005
    Have you tried pulling out the mobo and trying to run it on a piece of cardboard with just the psu, vid card, cpu & hsf and 1 stick of ddr intalled and see if if runs? If you fried the other mobo with the case short, you might have also taken out the proc too.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited January 2005
    It could be that when the previous MB shorted out it took some of your other hardware with it. If you have old parts you can swap out for troubleshooting purposes it would be worth a try to do so.

    It could also be a case that something got fried on your power supply. You might be getting the voltage to crank up the lights on your case, just not what you need to run the system.
  • DodgerDodger
    edited January 2005
    muddocktor wrote:
    Have you tried pulling out the mobo and trying to run it on a piece of cardboard with just the psu, vid card, cpu & hsf and 1 stick of ddr intalled and see if if runs? If you fried the other mobo with the case short, you might have also taken out the proc too.

    Yeah, and i've done everything I could possibly think of. This sucks so much it's not even funny.
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida Member
    edited January 2005
    You said you got a new motherboard and cpu right? I think that just leaves the video card and ram. Try one stick at a time, as suggested before. But, as someone else just said, there's a possibility one of those compnents could have been taken out when the mobo shorted. :(

    Try known good ram, and possibly an old video card that you know still works. See if you can borrow something from a friend or your pile of scrap parts. (If you're anything like some of us) :)
  • DodgerDodger
    edited January 2005
    The video card is new. I ordered it with the other parts.

    I'll try and get ahold of my friend for the RAM. Pray that's the problem...
  • TexTex Dallas/Ft. Worth
    edited January 2005
    try any other known working video card for now. Some are tempermental about getting them seated just right also.

    Tex
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida Member
    edited January 2005
    Tex wrote:
    try any other known working video card for now. Some are tempermental about getting them seated just right also.

    Tex
    Tell me about it! My 9700 Pro was having infinite loop problems for so long. Eventually I put AGP speed down to 4x for a quick fix. Just today I found it was seated improperly the whole time. And I had already tried reseating it a few times, I thought it was in fine. :bawling: Runs fine at AGP 8x now. :)
  • TexTex Dallas/Ft. Worth
    edited January 2005
    I keep a box of old pci video cards just for testing and troubleshooting. Some cases also are tricky with the MB mounting screws to get just right. They get "tweaked" just a tad in shipment and unless you have played this game a few times you don't see whats going on. I have spare cpu's and memory etc... and I don't see how folks troubleshoot this crap empty handed. It aint always easy or clear cut.

    Tex
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