Help discover the secrets of gravity! Join Einstein@home today!

MachineGunKellyMachineGunKelly The STICKS, Illinois
edited March 2005 in Folding@Home
Come on, let's see if we can help find the answers to one of mankinds oldest questions. What is gravity? How can we measure it? At what speed does it travel, and in what form?
Join the http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/ search team today while the teams are still small and just forming. The screensaver is a fantastic and manuverable image of the constellations that can be viewed from the inside or the outside, and shows where the pulsar streams intersect our part of the universe.
Together we may help solve the theories of dark matter and black holes!

Einstein@home is a program that uses your computer's idle time to search for spinning neutron stars (also called pulsars) using data from the LIGO and GEO gravitational wave detectors. Einstein@home is a World Year of Physics 2005 project supported by the American Physical Society (APS) and by a number of international organizations.

After several months of testing, we are now 'throwing open the doors' for general participation. If you would like to take part, please use the Create account link to create an account, and follow the instructions. Einstein@home is available for Windows, Linux and MacOS X computers.

This first production run of Einstein@home carries out a search for pulsars over the entire sky, using the most sensitive 600 hours of data from LIGO's third science run, S3.

Bruce Allen, Professor of Physics, U. of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Einstein@home Leader for the LIGO Scientific Collaboration

I will start my own team for now and hope that Shorty and MM will allow us to use the S/M name for a team in the near future.

Hope to see you there!

Machinegunkelly :thumbsup:

(EDIT: I created the team "machinegunkelly at team Short-Media.com". If we can get approval and enough members, I will drop my name and just have 'team Short-Media' as a team name. SHORTY! What do you say bro? :D MGK)
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  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    I'll gladly run a box(a slow one) on this project. I know these guys.
    Should we start a pool, "how fast is gravity?"
    My money is on faster than light.
  • to_deal_withto_deal_with
    edited February 2005
    "how fast is gravity"

    well, to know how quick it is, there is one more term needed and that is "slowness"
    and as we dont'have any exact information on anything, it is difficult to compare the fastness of gravity with anything,
    aren't they relative?
  • CyrixInsteadCyrixInstead Stoke-on-Trent, England Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    I reckon it's instantaneous. I'll take a look.

    ~Cyrix
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    I downloaded it, running it now... the options are a bit hard for me to understand too, but I reckon I need to play around with it more.
  • TheBaronTheBaron Austin, TX
    edited February 2005
    why would you devote computing power to this when a project helping cure cancer is still up and running? im not bashing anyone or anything, just trying to delve into the logic behind this... its more useful than seti for sure!
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited February 2005
    I bet gravity is NOT instantaneous. But I'll run this :D

    Edit:
    Hell yeah! Go Wisconsinites! :D;D
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    How do I view this in a window? I know it can, it has instructions on teh website, but it has no documentation to show you how to get the windowed version instead of just the screen saver.
  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    trying it out, setup is a little more complicated than F@H cause you gotta use this BOINC thing with an account url

    but the graphical thing is very neat looking now that i got it set up!
  • MachineGunKellyMachineGunKelly The STICKS, Illinois
    edited February 2005
    TheBaron wrote:
    why would you devote computing power to this when a project helping cure cancer is still up and running? im not bashing anyone or anything, just trying to delve into the logic behind this... its more useful than seti for sure!

    I hear you Baron. There are a myriad of good causes out there, cancer, aids, muscular dystrophy, alzheimers (sp?), lupus, etc. I wish we could all do something for each one.

    It's not my intention to take cpu cycles from Folding. It IS my intention to try and gather up a few unused rigs and put them to use to try and solve the mystery of dark matter, black holes, and ultimately, the mysteries of the universe. An understanding of how gravity travels, how and why it affects objects, and it's relative speed can help us develop new areas of physics and science, understand previously unknown phenomena, and perhaps one day, offer us the chance at anti-gravitational devices so that objects and people can be moved effortlessly. Perhaps even more efficient space travel.

    I see we now have three members, thank you! Our team number is 966. Happy folding and gravitating! :thumbsup:

    MGK
  • BuddyJBuddyJ Dept. of Propaganda OKC Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    I'll use my system to prove that gravity causes cancer!
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    I joined the team, but only see Prime listed.... but at least I am at the top when it comes to credits :p
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    I figured out my own question from earlier, took me forever to find the answer too. AND I DIDN'T NEED TO MAKE ANY POSTS ON THE MAIN SITE!

    Anyways, open BIONC(tehe funny name), goto work tab, right click on a WU, and SHOW GRAPHICS. You can fiddle around with it a bit too.
  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    BJ, gravity also causes broken bones when someone drops a computer on you.

    I am just running my P3 750MHz lappy.
    The pictures are nice.
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida Member
    edited February 2005
    It sounds interesting but I don't wanna take my P4's away from folding. I'll see if I can get a P3 on it.
    MachineGunKelly wrote:
    Happy folding and gravitating! :thumbsup:
    Einsteining? :D
  • botheredbothered Manchester UK
    edited February 2005
    If you fall to Earth from space and reach a terminal speed, isn't that the speed of gravity?
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    no, that's the speed of you falling.

    Not trying to be smartassed about it. You are assuming that you would be "pulled" along at the full speed of the force doing the pulling. It says nothing of your mass, wind resistance, etc.
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    edcentric wrote:
    BJ, gravity also causes broken bones when someone drops a computer on you.

    I am just running my P3 750MHz lappy.
    The pictures are nice.

    Not to turn this into a debate, but you could also break your bone in space as well, becuase of the mass and velocity of the computer falling on you, or thrown at you in space in this instance. If there was no mass, then there would be no gravity, or broken bones :thumbsup:
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited February 2005
    Terminal speed is the highest rate at which you can fall including wind resistance and such. Gravity is an acceleration not a speed.
  • EMTEMT Seattle, WA Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    I'll say speed of gravity = speed of light. But folding's keeping my CPU cycles :)
  • rykoryko new york
    edited February 2005
    gravity = 9.8m/s :thumbsup:
  • TheBaronTheBaron Austin, TX
    edited February 2005
    no, the ACCELERATION DUE TO gravity is 9.8m/s^2
    ryko wrote:
    gravity = 9.8m/s :thumbsup:
  • botheredbothered Manchester UK
    edited February 2005
    primesuspect wrote:
    no, that's the speed of you falling.

    Not trying to be smartassed about it. You are assuming that you would be "pulled" along at the full speed of the force doing the pulling. It says nothing of your mass, wind resistance, etc.
    You missunderstand me Brian. If you're falling from space ie, in a vacuum, there is no wind resistance and your mass doesn't matter. I'm not sure if there is a free fall terminal velocity though. There is an escape velocity of around 7 miles per second from Earth, maybe that's the speed of gravity at 1G.
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited February 2005
    Eh. I tried playing with it for about 20 minutes, but didn't understand wtf was going on. I'd used BOINK for something else, though I don't remember what. All I know what that I hated it. And for a good reason, too. I give up :-/ Sorry
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited March 2005
    If there was no mass, then there would be no gravity
    Arggh, did you guys pay attention in your high school science classes? ;D Gravity exists whether there is mass or not. The effect of gravity on mass is measured as weight.
    you could also break your bone in space as well, becuase of the mass and velocity of the computer falling on you
    Exactly. Yes, mass X velocity = force. Gravity merely acts upon a mass. The same computer thrown at you either in space or on earth would cause the same damage, as it's mass is unchanged.

    OK, I feel better now.
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited March 2005
    Leonardo wrote:
    Arggh, did you guys pay attention in your high school science classes? ;D Gravity exists whether there is mass or not. The effect of gravity on mass is measured as weight.

    Explain? Ohh and I wasn't quite literal, only giving an example on this one part. As I recall mass determines an objects gravitational pull, which is also determined by variables of which I cannot remember the names to.

    A object with more density has more gravity, and even more when even more dense. Of course I know the way I meant this to be explained is going to be analy raped, so please read carefully :thumbsup:
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited March 2005
    Well, yes. The larger mass of the earth pulls harder on a given object than the moon would pull on that same object. The mass of the second object is the same, but the gravitational "pull" off the earth is greater. I wasn't trying to nitpick anyone. I just happened to really enjoy my physics studies.
  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
    edited March 2005
    By the speed of gravity they mean how fast the effects of gravity propigate.
    If I have a large mass at some distance you can measure it gravitational field. If I intantaiously destroy the mass how long will it take you to measure the change in gravity?

    As soon as make my next milestone folding I will switch over an old TBird rig.
    Any idea how fast various machines run this prog????
  • kanezfankanezfan sunny south florida Icrontian
    edited March 2005
    primesuspect wrote:
    no, that's the speed of you falling.

    Not trying to be smartassed about it. You are assuming that you would be "pulled" along at the full speed of the force doing the pulling. It says nothing of your mass, wind resistance, etc.

    Plus, the earth not being that big, only has so much gravitational pull. I believe each planet/star as a different amount of gravitational pull based on their mass. I'm not sure how finding out this answer would help us, but it sounds cool.
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited March 2005
    Without having researched this project, I would assume that the purpose is to determine exactly how gravity is caused. We know that gravity is directly proportianal to an object's mass, but we don't know specifically what causes gravity.
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited March 2005
    Sure we do - Gravitons. They've just never been measured yet. But in theory they have to exist. Though theory isn't worth a damn if it doesn't translate into reality.

    Supposedly, though, gravitons are able to cross dimensions (one of the 11... or 13, can't remember how many specifically). According to M-Theory.
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