Depends on the setup, it looks like yours is seeing the work group, can you expand it and see computer names?
My laptop shows my home shares (even though i am at work) but then, here at work, its my entire network, wich puts me into all the domain stuff (server stuff).
You might have to share a computer that is on the same router with another one, or try two that are on the switch, and see if you get the shares to work there, then you will know if the problem is between the router and the switch, if it does not work on the same router/switch, then you know its a setting in windows networking (firewall on/or not configured, or shares not set right). Give that a go and see what happens, sure you will get it one of these trys.....just think of it like a big map, just a matter of connecting the dots......and making sure all the roadways are open.
profdbl- the only thing that is showing up on the mainfloor computer, (Dave) is "Micron (C) on downstairskids (Dave)" I have none of that other stuff showing up.
On the upstairs computer, I just ran up here, thats why there is two different posts, I am seeing Two things in place of your 1491. One says "Mshome" and the other says "workgroup" I must also ad the fact that the other stuff there is not showing up, such as "microsoft terminal services" and "web client network" Did you read my last post about the ip address? I think I changed it on this upstairs computer (NICHOLAS) a while back to try to get a d-link print server to work, but that I found out later, was not usable with a multifunction (print scan fax) printer. Also, out of curiosity, are the computer names case sensitive??
BOwz- when I expand It I can see, Nicholas, when I expand Nicholas I see: C, Shared Documents, Printers and Faxes, and scheduled tasks. I am not seeing any sight of the other computer back downstairs (Dave)??? What do I do about that downstairs computer (dave) that is not showing me anything under my network places other than "Micron (C) on downstairskids (Dave)" ?? I am still grateful for the help, keep it up. Make sure you look at what I said about the IP address stuff in the first paragraph of this post.. I think this could be part of my problem
...I am seeing Two things in place of your 1491. One says "Mshome" and the other says "workgroup" I must also add the fact that the other stuff there is not showing up, such as "microsoft terminal services" and "web client network"
"1491" is the name of my workgroup. The fact that you're seeing Mshome makes me think your workgroups haven't been set right on both computers. Is "workgroup" the name of your workgroup on both computers?
Don't worry about the "other stuff". It's for WinXPpro and shouldn't be a factor.
Did you read my last post about the ip address? I think I changed it on this upstairs computer (NICHOLAS) a while back to try to get a d-link print server to work, but that I found out later, was not usable with a multifunction (print scan fax) printer.
Make sure that all of your computers are set to obtain an IP address automatically, the router will handle the rest.
Also, out of curiosity, are the computer names case sensitive??...
Not for a simple search. "CoMpuTer" works just as good as "Computer".
One thing to keep in mind: Your computer name cannot be the same as your username.
Both computers are most definitely named "MSHOME" for a workgroup name. So that is one problem we can rule out.
he fact that you're seeing Mshome makes me think your workgroups haven't been set right on both computers.
What Do I do about it? And why in the world on the downstairs computer, (dave) am I not seeing anything as far a workgroup name goes? The only thing that shows up is my a folder of my hard drive, read previous post.
Make sure that all of your computers are set to obtain an IP address automatically, the router will handle the rest.
How do I do that?
And one last question... Are you getting sick of me yet? lol... This is just the beginning, I have so many computer problems...
Both computers are most definitely named "MSHOME" for a workgroup name...why in the world on the downstairs computer, (dave) am I not seeing anything as far a workgroup name goes?
When you right-click on "MY Computer", left-click "Properties" and click on "Computer Name" what shows up on the line marked "Workgroup:" on the downstairs computer?
Make sure that all of your computers are set to obtain an IP address automatically, the router will handle the rest.
How do I do that?
(See the attached picture)
Go into Control Panel>>Network Connections and right-click on the Internet connection for your network card, then left-click "Properties". You should see something like the picture marked with a red "1". Click on the "Properties" button. This should bring up Picture #2. Highlight "Internet Protocol(TCP/IP)" with a single left-click, then click "Properties". This should bring up picture #3. Put a check in both of the boxes that are checked in the picture.
Another thing to check while you're in Picture #2 is that you have "File and Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks" installed. It should look like the line marked with the blue arrow. If it's not there, let us know. That could be the solution to the whole problem.
And one last question... Are you getting sick of me yet? lol... This is just the beginning, I have so many computer problems...
No problem.
A funny thing about volunteering to lend a hand at this website is that we often get almost as wrapped up in the problem as the person posing the question. There is a way to get this to work. I will be almost as happy as you will be once we get it whipped.
As to the other computer problems, let's take them one at a time for now.
Just to clarify, you have a regular router downstairs? with one of the computers and the cable modem? and a wireless router upstairs? with the second computer and the laptop?
With two routers, you have firewalls in each unit, you will only be able to access the pc on the first router from a pc on the second router, but because of the firewall on the second router, it will not access the pc on the first router. Thats the beauty of a hardware firewall, it blocks out the traffic from the internet (cable modem), but if you put a second router in the configuration, by default, its going to block the traffic from the outside (or in this case, the first router) thinking its the outside world (its just doing its job)
Like profldp says, its a pleasure to help people out, and this site is full of some really great people when it comes to tech, i have found things here, that I can't find anywhere else on the web.
I unplugged the computer upstairs and plugged it directly into the wall, (unplugged it from the wireless router) I restarted the computer (nicholas) and after that, I went to view my network connections, low and behold there was my downstairs computer, finally showing up on my workgroup which I renamed "Dave Diephouse" Here is where the problem starts. When I try to click on the downstairs computer (dave) it says that access is denied and to check with your network administrator.
Now, when I come back downstairs (Dave) I tried again to set up a network, when I do this I go to my computer>> my network places>> set up a home or small office network. From there I go through the wizard, it gives three options...
1. This computer connects directly to the internet, the other computers on my network connect to the internet through this computer.
2. This computer connects to the internet through another computer on my network or through a residential gateway.
3. Other
I chose "other." The next list is as follows...
1. This computer connects to the internet directly through a network hub. Other computers on my network also connect to the internet directly or through a hub.
2. This computer connects directly to the internet. I do not have a network yet.
3. This computer belongs to a network that does not have an internet connection.
I chose option 1.
Now, I go through the next few steps and it says something about windows does not recommend this setup... I click next anyhow.... I then name the computer (Dave) and the workgroup "Dave Diephouse" to make it something unique. It does a series of configuration setup stuff and then proceeds to tell me that something failed during the setup and you can set it up manually.
I think this is the way i want to go about setting this up, right? I will stress again, I want a peer to peer, or residential gateway type network, I do not want to have a host computer....
Also, if I go my computer on the downstairs comp (dave) and attempt to “view workgroup computers” it says Dave Diephouse is not accessible and you may not have permission to use this network resource. Check with your administrator, blah blah blah, it then says the list of workgroups is not available. I am led to believe there is some type of setting that is throwing me off on this downstairs computer. What is going on? We are making progress btw..... I can at least see this downstairs comp from upstairs..... Thanks for the continued support.
If it can see the other computer, and you can ping it, and you pulled the second router out of the loop, then more then likely its a firewall issure on the pc (windows firewall is on by defualt in Xp-sp2) I believe the wizard will turn the firewall on also, if I am not mistanken. From the local connectons folder, go to the properties of your lan, then check the advanced tab, see if the windows firewall is on, it it is, turn it off, then see if your networking works then.......just another step in the way to making it all work......hang in there.........your getting closer
I turned off the firewall stuff, it seems like my computer is not holding these settings though, becuase I know I had turned that off before, but then it was back on. Now that it is turned off, I still cannot get it to work, the same messages pop up, what else is there to turn off? How about something in the configuration of the TCP/IP? And also, when I try to ping the upstairs computer (nicholas) It times out every single time!!! I can ping from upstairs and find this computer downstairs (dave)?? Any thoughts based on that info?
Do the folders you shared have the icon with the hand on it? What happens when you try to browse to the "Shared Documents" folder on the other computer?
Did you check that "File and Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks" is installed?
I cannot open anything on that upstairs computer, when I try to open the computer (dave) from the upstairs computer it says that I do not have permission to access it. and it has no hand on it. if I go to my computer on the downstairs comp (dave) and attempt to “view workgroup computers” it says Dave Diephouse is not accessible and you may not have permission to use this network resource. Check with your administrator, blah blah blah, it then says the list of workgroups is not available.
Did you check that "File and Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks" is installed?
double check the firewall stuff, make sure the windows firewall is turned off. When you enable file sharing, do not use the wizard, just enable file sharing for the folder you want to share. Once you have both of those taken care of, try again to access the folder from the other pc. And then give us an update as to what the current status is....or what its doing, and I will try to help.....if i can, or maybe someone else will jump in and come up with something we have not thought of yet....keep going with it..........sure you will get it eventually to work. make sure you can still ping the other computer, and will go from there.....
Have you run Windows Update and installed all the patches? That would be worth trying.
Run the Belarc Advisor. It will make a nice one page profile of your computer. On the HTML page it creates, click "File", "Save As", then change the "Save As Type" box to "Web Archive, Single File (*mht)". Save it, Zip it and attach it to a post here.
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My laptop shows my home shares (even though i am at work) but then, here at work, its my entire network, wich puts me into all the domain stuff (server stuff).
You might have to share a computer that is on the same router with another one, or try two that are on the switch, and see if you get the shares to work there, then you will know if the problem is between the router and the switch, if it does not work on the same router/switch, then you know its a setting in windows networking (firewall on/or not configured, or shares not set right). Give that a go and see what happens, sure you will get it one of these trys.....just think of it like a big map, just a matter of connecting the dots......and making sure all the roadways are open.
BOwz- when I expand It I can see, Nicholas, when I expand Nicholas I see: C, Shared Documents, Printers and Faxes, and scheduled tasks. I am not seeing any sight of the other computer back downstairs (Dave)??? What do I do about that downstairs computer (dave) that is not showing me anything under my network places other than "Micron (C) on downstairskids (Dave)" ?? I am still grateful for the help, keep it up. Make sure you look at what I said about the IP address stuff in the first paragraph of this post.. I think this could be part of my problem
Don't worry about the "other stuff". It's for WinXPpro and shouldn't be a factor.
Make sure that all of your computers are set to obtain an IP address automatically, the router will handle the rest.
Not for a simple search. "CoMpuTer" works just as good as "Computer".
One thing to keep in mind: Your computer name cannot be the same as your username.
What Do I do about it? And why in the world on the downstairs computer, (dave) am I not seeing anything as far a workgroup name goes? The only thing that shows up is my a folder of my hard drive, read previous post.
How do I do that?
And one last question... Are you getting sick of me yet? lol... This is just the beginning, I have so many computer problems...
Make sure that all of your computers are set to obtain an IP address automatically, the router will handle the rest. (See the attached picture)
Go into Control Panel>>Network Connections and right-click on the Internet connection for your network card, then left-click "Properties". You should see something like the picture marked with a red "1". Click on the "Properties" button. This should bring up Picture #2. Highlight "Internet Protocol(TCP/IP)" with a single left-click, then click "Properties". This should bring up picture #3. Put a check in both of the boxes that are checked in the picture.
Another thing to check while you're in Picture #2 is that you have "File and Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks" installed. It should look like the line marked with the blue arrow. If it's not there, let us know. That could be the solution to the whole problem.
No problem.
A funny thing about volunteering to lend a hand at this website is that we often get almost as wrapped up in the problem as the person posing the question. There is a way to get this to work. I will be almost as happy as you will be once we get it whipped.
As to the other computer problems, let's take them one at a time for now.
With two routers, you have firewalls in each unit, you will only be able to access the pc on the first router from a pc on the second router, but because of the firewall on the second router, it will not access the pc on the first router. Thats the beauty of a hardware firewall, it blocks out the traffic from the internet (cable modem), but if you put a second router in the configuration, by default, its going to block the traffic from the outside (or in this case, the first router) thinking its the outside world (its just doing its job)
Like profldp says, its a pleasure to help people out, and this site is full of some really great people when it comes to tech, i have found things here, that I can't find anywhere else on the web.
I unplugged the computer upstairs and plugged it directly into the wall, (unplugged it from the wireless router) I restarted the computer (nicholas) and after that, I went to view my network connections, low and behold there was my downstairs computer, finally showing up on my workgroup which I renamed "Dave Diephouse" Here is where the problem starts. When I try to click on the downstairs computer (dave) it says that access is denied and to check with your network administrator.
Now, when I come back downstairs (Dave) I tried again to set up a network, when I do this I go to my computer>> my network places>> set up a home or small office network. From there I go through the wizard, it gives three options...
1. This computer connects directly to the internet, the other computers on my network connect to the internet through this computer.
2. This computer connects to the internet through another computer on my network or through a residential gateway.
3. Other
I chose "other." The next list is as follows...
1. This computer connects to the internet directly through a network hub. Other computers on my network also connect to the internet directly or through a hub.
2. This computer connects directly to the internet. I do not have a network yet.
3. This computer belongs to a network that does not have an internet connection.
I chose option 1.
Now, I go through the next few steps and it says something about windows does not recommend this setup... I click next anyhow.... I then name the computer (Dave) and the workgroup "Dave Diephouse" to make it something unique. It does a series of configuration setup stuff and then proceeds to tell me that something failed during the setup and you can set it up manually.
I think this is the way i want to go about setting this up, right? I will stress again, I want a peer to peer, or residential gateway type network, I do not want to have a host computer....
Also, if I go my computer on the downstairs comp (dave) and attempt to “view workgroup computers” it says Dave Diephouse is not accessible and you may not have permission to use this network resource. Check with your administrator, blah blah blah, it then says the list of workgroups is not available. I am led to believe there is some type of setting that is throwing me off on this downstairs computer. What is going on? We are making progress btw..... I can at least see this downstairs comp from upstairs..... Thanks for the continued support.
Did you check that "File and Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks" is installed?
What do the messages say?
How do I check to see if it installed??
Look at the area marked with the blue arrow in Picture #2 in Post # 42.
Run the Belarc Advisor. It will make a nice one page profile of your computer. On the HTML page it creates, click "File", "Save As", then change the "Save As Type" box to "Web Archive, Single File (*mht)". Save it, Zip it and attach it to a post here.