new motherboard + processor =BSOD
Hi
i just got a new mother board and processor;
nforce4-a939 and amd64 athlon
but every time windows xp trys to boot it blue screens (its not the irq = error i had last time i upgraded) it just says that it had to be shut down due to possible damage if i left it on etc and quotes some memory addresses (my ram detects proberly at the post screen) any ideas what might be the culprit? i`m backing my hds up at mo and gonna reinstall
i just got a new mother board and processor;
nforce4-a939 and amd64 athlon
but every time windows xp trys to boot it blue screens (its not the irq = error i had last time i upgraded) it just says that it had to be shut down due to possible damage if i left it on etc and quotes some memory addresses (my ram detects proberly at the post screen) any ideas what might be the culprit? i`m backing my hds up at mo and gonna reinstall
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Excellent choice on the hardware btw! you'll love that A64
Good luck with the rebuild! PCI-Express prices will be dropping, you can always pick up a good gaming card later on
Good luck.
I built my new A64 rig right around New Year's. I went from an Abit KT7A-RAID (wasn't RAIDing the HD) with a T-Bird 1200, to an MSI K8N Neo-2 Platinum (Socket 939) with an A64 3500+. That's about as different as you can get.
I was in a hurry to see how it was all going to go together, so I just PQMagic'd my C: Drive to a spare HD I had laying around (just to make sure my data was safe) and did a repair install on the existing C: partition. I figured I'd play around with it for a couple of days, then do the old wipe-and-reload business.
Three months later, I still haven't gotten around to it - mainly because my system has been running rock-solid the entire time. As of now, I don't intend to format and start over until XP 64-Bit is released.
One thing I did do, which isn't always mentioned in repair install guides, is that as soon as the repair install was finished I booted into Safe Mode and removed everything from Device Manager. I then rebooted and let Windows set up my hardware again from scratch.
As always, make sure your data backups are in good shape before trying any of this.
The man is right.
one thing that occures to me when i fited it up the motherboard is a 24pin power connector my psu is 20 pin the guide said i can use it but it may cause instability or non booting however its a 450wat power suply so i figured it would not cause a problem ? could this be the cause ?
also i have no idea how to copy the cd to the hd and make it bootable like that?
i am NEVER buying anew procesor or motherboard again!!!!
ok major new problem when ever i boot the pc it brings up the windows loader for a second then the monitier goes to standby then after 10 secs the machine resets
but i can load into safe mode any ideas?
also the amd says its runnin at 1.8 ghz i know thats in safe mode but surly itshould be faster then that????
in the device manager other devices is
!other pci bridge device
!pci memory controller
!smbus controller
is nforce 4 boards using nforce platform drivers ?
i have just been able to load it in normal mode i`m not sure how but it is a start however my cpu speed is still only 1.8ghz which is the same as my amd 2500+ not sure why that is any advice on what it should be its a amd64 3000+?
EG: What brand name and model of motherboard? What specific processor (3200+? 3800+?)
2) Could you be more specific on how you've configured the system?
HDD in raid or single and on what header? (SATA? EIDE?)
3) Could you be more specific on what video card you are running?
When upgrading major components like a motherboard I find it best to do a clean install. CLEAR the CMOS of the motherboard...boot...hit the DELETE key and go into BIOS and set time and date and boot order. You may want to load safe defaults and then do some basic check of the bios settings.
AFTER windows is in place you can tweak the BIOS.
Remember that if you are using SATA drives...you'll need the drivers on a diskette. Also...I know that "D" series of the 3200+ processors can be a bit cranky on some motherboards. (ASUS A8V for example) and a BIOS update is required before things become stable.
We're here to help.
YES...NFORCE 4 boards require the nforce drivers from NVIDIA.
http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
Download the UNIFIED Drivers and install those...then download the standalone kit and install those. That standalone kit has newer versions some of the drivers
UNIFIED DRIVER VERSIONS
Audio driver 4.42 (WHQL)
Audio utilities 4.44
Ethernet driver 4.42 (WHQL)
GART driver 4.36 (WHQL)
Memory controller driver 3.38 (WHQL)
SMBus driver 4.04 (WHQL)
Installer 4.46
IDE NVIDIA driver 4.46 (WHQL)
STANDALONE KIT VERSIONS
Audio driver 4.60 (WHQL)
Audio utilities 4.51
Ethernet driver 4.75 (WHQL)
SMBus driver 4.45 (WHQL)
Installer 4.60
IDE NVIDIA driver 5.18 (WHQL
motherboard is k8 ht2000 nforce4-a939 made by elitegroups
1 ide dvd writer
1 weasterndigitial 200gig hd
3 maxdor hds 80gigs
no raids etc
i`ve managed to remove the ! from device manager using nforce 5.10 drivers unified but there must be something wrong with the cpu for it to show as 1.81 ghz ? or are the amd 64 3000+ meant to be the same speed as the amd 2500+? wierd question i know but this is the first time i have used one so i dont know
i have done a clean reinstall
oh and btw guys your help has been tremendus i cant thank you enough
There's no new BIOS for that board. You may want to try their version of the NFORCE 4 chipset drivers
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Downloads/ProductsDetail_Download.aspx?detailid=493&DetailName=Driver&DetailDesc=NFORCE4-A939(1.0)&MenuID=0&LanID=0
You may also want to try clearing the CMOS and see if that puts things in better shape.
i dont know how to clear the cmos
As far as which setting could potentially be the problem, it could be anything from memory timings to who-know's-what. Clearing the CMOS puts your board back in the state it was when it left the factory, eliminating any BIOS tweaks you may have done as a possibility.
Good Luck!
reset thebios (easier then i thought)but still getting only 1.81ghz
is there anything i`m missing? something simple ? i am new to setting this stufff up
this is the direct link to the manual (most of which i dont understand)
http://64.124.27.138/ecs/manual/mb/eng/k8/NFORCE4-A939.pdf
to the chap further up who gave me the link to the downloads thank you as thats where i got the link to the manual which i have checked thoughly and matches my paper maual word for word
For example, my 3500+ runs at 2.21GHz. Benchmarks show that it does indeed whip other CPU's whose rating is based on an actual clock speed of 3.5GHz.
Have your BSOD problems gone away with the installation of the nforce 5.10 unified drivers?
EDIT: Jimborae was too quick for me.
ok on a seriouse note thank you for all the help and if some one can comfirm that it should only be as fast as a amd 2500 that would help
and u were to quick for me lol
yeah the blue screen of death has gone behind a corner to catch me another day thanks mostly to you guys help ...as i said thank you dont quite cut it !!! i`m not convinced by the 3000+ meaning it will beat other 3000 chips but i can hope and well ur the experts
thank you again
The chips have a totally different architecture. Think of them like automobile engines: Take two 2.5 litre engines. One is in mom's car to run to the grocery store, the other is in a hot sports car. The difference comes down to many other factors, like sustained RPM's, transmission, carburetor, etc.
AMD CPU's run at drastically lower clock speeds than comparable Intel CPU's, that doesn't make them worse. If you're still not convinced, take a look at this.
Only the very top end Intel chips will rival your A64 in gaming. $1000 Intel Extreme Edition or $150 AMD 3000+ ... tough decision
The only thing holding you back is your graphics card. Any money left in the budget? I'm sure you could pick up a 6600GT card (which would make a phenominal difference) for around $150.
no money left in the budget for at least amonth or two