Fake XP's rearing their ugly heads!

muddocktormuddocktor
edited September 2003 in Science & Tech
I was just over at Hardocp and found this extremely interesting link to the overclock.uk forums site about some folks receiving some re-worked XP's. It sounds like these are surfacing in the UK, so all our bretheren on the other side of the pond should be extremely interested in these developments if they are in the market for a new cpu.

Here is a quote from [O-CuK]Marci , who started the thread over there:
Well, today was a revelation... we received a pair of fake XP2400+ CPUs from one of our suppliers. This matter is under investigation at both ends at the moment, suffice to say all our CPUs have been checked and all fakes removed, and we're pleased to say these two are the ONLY two we have here. All further CPUs will be checked on arrival.

The matter has been brought to the attention of the supplier who are investigating it with our full co-operation....


EDIT: It looks like the linkage from Hardocp has smoked their server:scratch: I hope that they get it back up soon. It's presently coming up with a 404 error.:doh:

Comments

  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Er..... define fake. Are they like, plastic or something?

    NS
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited September 2003
    OCed to another speed? Wire trick? Blowing/crossing bridges would be the best bet I think.
  • NixxerNixxer Nottingham, UK
    edited September 2003
    NightShade737 said
    Er..... define fake. Are they like, plastic or something?

    They are made from biscuit and kitchen foil.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Nixxer said
    NightShade737 said
    Er..... define fake. Are they like, plastic or something?

    They are made from biscuit and kitchen foil.

    Haha, someones been watching the Orange advert :rolleyes2 ;D

    NS
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited September 2003
    The pics I saw in the links before it went down showed cpu's with the L11 and L3 bridges remapped and with fake tags glued to the front of the processor package right over the top of the original tag(could see a slight overlap). Also, the fake tags looked a little different than an original AMD tag.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    Oh joy. How much you want to bet that this is going to cause AMD to severely restrict (if not outright eliminate) the ability to mod the CPUs using the bridges (e.g. make it into an MP, change the multi, etc.)? Wonderful. Just f**king wonderful.
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    I warned about this here at SM a month ago. Several XP 3000 that originally is something else.
  • NixxerNixxer Nottingham, UK
    edited September 2003
    NightShade737 said
    Nixxer said
    NightShade737 said
    Er..... define fake. Are they like, plastic or something?

    They are made from biscuit and kitchen foil.

    Haha, someones been watching the Orange advert :rolleyes2 ;D

    Yeh, first thing that popped into my head. It could be true...
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited September 2003
    Hardocp has updated their blurb, noting that their server is dead, and posted some pics. Here is a link to the pics that the [H] have posted:

    Linky

    EDIT: Quoted from Hardocp:
    In the three images above you will see tell-tale signs that the CPU has been modified. 1.) The L11 bridge is poorly cut. If you compare the original straight laser cut on the upper most bridge with the larger round cut in lower bridge you can tell the CPU has been altered. 2.) In the second picture the CPU on the left is the fake. The fake label has been placed over the original, the lettering is much higher on the black background on the fake and the lettering is an off yellowish brown color. 3.) L3 bridges poorly cut, traces being connected or pins being connected / severed on the back of the CPU is also a dead giveaway.
  • danball1976danball1976 Wichita Falls, TX
    edited September 2003
    Since when does AMD use aluminum tape as a tag on their CPU's. Its obviously modded by someone within their supplier, or by the suppliers supplier
  • seversphereseversphere
    edited September 2003
    danball1976 said
    Since when does AMD use aluminum tape as a tag on their CPU's. Its obviously modded by someone within their supplier, or by the suppliers supplier

    AMD doesn't use the silver tag you see. That's just a tag put on by the reseller for their own RMA/warranty/inventory needs.
  • danball1976danball1976 Wichita Falls, TX
    edited September 2003
    See, I knew that, see. AMD uses a paper sticker, see.:crazy:
  • seversphereseversphere
    edited September 2003
    AMD retail or OEM comes with no sticker (other than stepping) on the chip itself. The paper one would be like what Newegg or lots of other places use on OEM/tray cpus - their own barcode sticker. :crazy: drop and give me twenty!
  • -O-CuK-Marci-O-CuK-Marci
    edited September 2003
    Any retailer / reseller can add their own labels for stock control or warranty purposes. We add our own Over-Clock UK label to every product that comes thru our doors bearing our serail numbers etc that we use to track warranties. Very common in every market, and is by no means any sign of a CPU being fake. All the signs were purely physical in the bridge modifications.

    As in, they were sold to us as XP2400+ and 2600+ processors, but were clearly lower speed processors amateurly modded up and the official AMD label replaced to show them as the faster model.

    This needs clearing up as it is causing problems with the supplier of the genuine chip, as ppl are now asking for refunds on their CPUs on the basis of "silver label with blue ink" = fake/modded CPU. If ppl had read the article they'd find that from day one the silver labelled CPU is the ORIGINAL REAL ARTICLE. Unmodded. Genuine as advertised processor. The OTHER is the modded one.

    The mass linkage pushed our servers over on CPU Load (surge to the forums) and bandwidth (photo downloads) and happened on the worst day possible... the day my partner went into labour and gave birth to my son, so I wasn't around to fix it... and still shouldn't be! I am in the process of moving the entire site to a MUCH higher capacity server, but am having to squeeze it in between trips backwards and forwards to a hospital 30 miles away without a car... so it's taking some time....
  • -O-CuK-Marci-O-CuK-Marci
    edited September 2003
    found this extremely interesting link to the overclockers.uk forums

    Overclockers.uk are a completely different site/company and ppl misquoting us as them also gets us into a huge pile o' trouble. We are Over-Clock.co.uk NOT overclockers.co.uk

    Different sites, different people, different aims. Any chance of someone savin me another loada grief and gettin it edited please!
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Yeah, I would go by Marci's comment as OCUK are a bunch of *******s that I highly doubt that another group would want to be called :banghead:

    NS
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