Monster motherboard

Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
edited September 2003 in Hardware
I saw a few of these on Ebay a while back, and now www.weirdstuff.com has them for <$100...

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Tyan Thunder 2500

Dual Slot 1 100/133MHz Pentium 3 up to 1GHz
4 64 bit, 33MHz PCI
2 64 bit, 66MHz PCI
AGP 2x/Pro
8 SDR DIMM slots
Onboard SCSI, LAN, Audio
2 20 pin ATX power supply connectors
E-ATX 12x13" footprint

Ok, ok, so it's old. I realize that. But it's still a hell of a motherboard- or it was when it was new anyhow...

I wonder if AGP 2x is slow enough to bottleneck relatively modern video cards... :scratch:;)

Comments

  • HotrodsunHotrodsun Salem, OR
    edited September 2003
    It's a pretty sweet board, But 1 gig slot 1 processor cost about 300 bucks each. You could get a pair of MP2800's with money to spare for that price.
  • ketoketo Occupied. Or is it preoccupied? Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    RE: newer AGP cards

    Without looking it up, I believe newer AGP cards run on different voltage and won't run in that board :(
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Yeah, but if you put 2 PIII/1.2 or 1.4 tualatins and something like an LSI MegaRaid 1600 (64bit caching U160 RAID controller) you would have a phenomenal video editing workstation.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    Hotrodsun: Yea, the P3s are still insanely expensive. I bought a refurbished MSI Pro266TD-LR dual s370 board from newegg a few weeks ago because I like the P3 and DDR/P3 boards are getting hard to find. But, I'll probably have to wait until next year to upgrade the CPU (1.3GHz Celeron) to dual P3s because they're still insanely expensive...

    keto; AFAIK, most AGP4x cards are backwards compatible with AGP2x.. the newer AGP8x cards won't work, but I think 4x cards will...

    Prime... Do the P3s do video editing better than the newer CPUs do? Just curious... The main reason I bought the dual P3 board is because I needed a print server (yea, a dual P3 print server :rolleyes::D) and the P3 runs so cool that I can make it basically silent, which is much harder to do with the AXP/P4/Xeon...
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Believe it or not, I have a print server deployed at a client location that is dual p3/850s with a 300gb RAID 0

    Obviously, they do a lot of printing ;D

    As for the video editing, I wouldn't say that they do video editing better than a dual athlon system, but those 64-bit PCI slots are the cheese on that board.
  • TheSmJTheSmJ
    edited September 2003
    AFAIK, most AGP4x cards are backwards compatible with AGP2x.. the newer AGP8x cards won't work, but I think 4x cards will...

    Sorry, but this is not the case.

    I came across this problem (also thinking they were backwards compatible) when I tried to use a 4X AGP vid card on my ol' Abit LX6, which is an AGP 2X max board. It worked, sort of, but there were big satiability problems (lockups and BSODs) about every 6 hours (I ran the machine, or tried, 24/7). Thinking it was the AGP incompatibility issue, I removed the 4X card, replaced it with a 2X. and the satiability returned.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    To quote Mackanz, "christ on a raft!" Dual P3/850 300GB RAIDed Print Server? This isn't controlling just one printer is it? And is this for some kind of printing service or something?

    Yea- that many 64 bit slots is nice. Of course, @ 15 devices/channel & 2 channels/controller, that's a hell of a lot of hard drives too...
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited September 2003
    They call this the JB-8000 Big-Ass Athlon System :D

    8-Way MultiProcessor Slot A CPU Interfaces
    Support For Up To 4 GB DDR SDRAM
    AMD 751 "IronGate" Northbridge with redundant processing
    Via 686A SouthBridge with redundant processing
    7 PCI
    4 AGP
    Onboard IDE RAID, Floppy, 2 standard IDE, SCSI RAID
    Redundant PSU connections for fail-safe power delivery

    Gawd, we can only wish :D
  • danball1976danball1976 Wichita Falls, TX
    edited September 2003
    SimGuy said
    They call this the JB-8000 Big-Ass Athlon System :D

    8-Way MultiProcessor Slot A CPU Interfaces
    Support For Up To 4 GB DDR SDRAM
    AMD 751 "IronGate" Northbridge with redundant processing
    Via 686A SouthBridge with redundant processing
    7 PCI
    4 AGP
    Onboard IDE RAID, Floppy, 2 standard IDE, SCSI RAID
    Redundant PSU connections for fail-safe power delivery

    Gawd, we can only wish :D

    Is this for real?
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited September 2003
    danball1976 said
    SimGuy said
    They call this the JB-8000 Big-Ass Athlon System :D

    8-Way MultiProcessor Slot A CPU Interfaces
    Support For Up To 4 GB DDR SDRAM
    AMD 751 &quot;IronGate&quot; Northbridge with redundant processing
    Via 686A SouthBridge with redundant processing
    7 PCI
    4 AGP
    Onboard IDE RAID, Floppy, 2 standard IDE, SCSI RAID
    Redundant PSU connections for fail-safe power delivery

    Gawd, we can only wish :D

    Is this for real?

    Not a chance. There was a severe problem with instability on Slot A Athlon's when utilized in dual configurations. That's why we never saw any SMP Slot A Athlon machines.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Geeky1 said
    To quote Mackanz, "christ on a raft!" Dual P3/850 300GB RAIDed Print Server? This isn't controlling just one printer is it? And is this for some kind of printing service or something?

    Yes, it's a print server.

    It controls a bank of 20 Epson C82 inkjet printers, as well as a Xerox DocuColor 12N, and a couple of other miscellaneous office printers.

    It's a CD/DVD duplication plant, and they use the Epson bank to print labels for CD/DVDs, so sometimes they'll spool a 300mb piece of artwork to 20 printers at once - yeah, you need some serious hardware to cope with that.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    danball1976 said
    Is this for real?

    Definitely not. Why 4 AGP slots? :rolleyes:
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    primesuspect said
    Geeky1 said
    To quote Mackanz, &quot;christ on a raft!&quot; Dual P3/850 300GB RAIDed Print Server? This isn't controlling just one printer is it? And is this for some kind of printing service or something?

    Yes, it's a print server.

    It controls a bank of 20 Epson C82 inkjet printers, as well as a Xerox DocuColor 12N, and a couple of other miscellaneous office printers.

    It's a CD/DVD duplication plant, and they use the Epson bank to print labels for CD/DVDs, so sometimes they'll spool a 300mb piece of artwork to 20 printers at once - yeah, you need some serious hardware to cope with that.

    Yea... I figured it was for more than one printer, since that's an awfully powerful print server for a single printer... (did I mention that the 1.3GHz Celeron that will eventually be a dual 1.4GHz P3 system is a print server for just my HP CP1160 inkjet that's on a network that consists of my 2 desktops and a laptop? :D)
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited September 2003
    How much is a print server? $50? I'd have bought one of those and saved some cash to buy an Athlon that will fold like mad. Besides, print servers are completely quiet.

    Prime: That print server, is it 6 blocks wide by 6 blocks long by 6 blocks tall?
    Geeky1 said
    The main reason I bought the dual P3 board is because I needed a print server (yea, a dual P3 print server :rolleyes::D) and the P3 runs so cool that I can make it basically silent, which is much harder to do with the AXP/P4/Xeon...
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    a2j- minor problem- it's a usb-only printer (well if i want reasonable print speed it is anyhow) and it's a HP- which means that it probably won't get along with a non-HP print server. The HP print server for my printer is $250... it was cheaper to buy the computer. Besides, I wanted a silent computer, not a silent print server :D
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