PS3 GPU Less Powerful Than a GeForce 7800?

FormFactorFormFactor At the core of forgotten
edited September 2005 in Science & Tech
The Inquirer is reporting that an nVidia spokesperson was quoted in PlayStation Magazine saying that the RSX GPU used in Sony's upcoming console is slightly less powerful than a GeForce 7800.

This puts paid to the rumours that the RSX was basically an off-the-shelf 7800 chipset, though the big news is in the "RSX is slightly less powerful" part of the statement. If one was to do some quick graphics card math, this would mean that the RSX chip powering the PlayStation 3 is less powerful than two GeForce 6800's running in SLI mode – as the 7800 is – and according to Microsoft and ATi, the Xbox 360 GPU is more powerful than the same SLI combo.
It's all awfully confusing we know, though it is an interesting tech mystery to try and get to the bottom of. Of course Microsoft and Sony engineers all know exactly what's in the difference between the two consoles, but the marketing people want to tell us that their console is twenty times better than everyone elses, so we must wait until someone rips the two boxes open and benchmarks them, at which point we can search through our archives and head off to get the "Well what we really meant..." speeches from the PR folks
Let the pre-release console flame wars commence!

Update: This article on the TeamXBOX site seems to debunk the rumor.
NVIDIA contacted us today after we published the "PlayStation 3 GPU Less Powerful than GeForce 7800" story based on a report found at The Inquirer. Derek Perez, NVIDIA's Director of Public Relations, was kind enough to provide us the actual paragraph from the September issue of PSM. Here is the information from the blurb in question:

There's no doubting that NVIDIA's new 7800GTX is the ultimate in PC graphics technology. The card's G70 GPU, which is more than twice as powerful as two of NVIDIA's previous top-of-the-line 6800 boards, shares a lot of similar workings with the PS3's RSX chip - only it isn't as fast. Oh, and it retails for $599.

The article actually says the GeForce 7800 GTX is not as fast as the RSX graphics processing unit that NVIDIA developed for the PlayStation 3.

Source: The Inquirer
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  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    Meh. It'll be running things at TV screen resolution. Even at HDTV resolution, that's a lot less demanding than what many of us are used to running our computer games at.

    The question still comes down to the games. If the chip in the 360 is more powerful, will the games be able to demonstrate that difference?
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited September 2005
    You know, I never really thought about the resolution differences. Good point.

    And still people, $300 for a system that can do what a $1000 computer can do? Lots of people will be all over (all three consoles, that is).
  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    Oh yeah. I'll bet a PS3 could put my current livingroom computer to shame. If the speculation is true about having a fully-accessible linux OS preloaded on it, then it'll definitely replace my livingroom PC.
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited September 2005
    This report has been Reversed & Clarified

    Nvidia up in arms at Playstation 3 SNAFU
    Sifting through the rubble this morning it would seem that the report sourced from Evil Avatar was a misquote from PSM. What one would be led to believe from the Avatar piece would be that the RSX chip is less powerful than the GeForce 7800. In reality, it’s the other way around – the GeForce 7800 is slightly less powerful than the RSX chip.
  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    In reality, it’s the other way around – the GeForce 7800 is slightly less powerful than the RSX chip.
    Who can't wait for Soul Calibur 3? Me!!! :thumbsup:
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    entropy wrote:
    You know, I never really thought about the resolution differences. Good point.

    And still people, $300 for a system that can do what a $1000 computer can do? Lots of people will be all over (all three consoles, that is).

    Can't say I'll be doing CAD work or my accounting on a Playstation anytime soon... :rolleyes2
  • BuddyJBuddyJ Dept. of Propaganda OKC Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    Xbox has been defeated... but the soul still burns!
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited September 2005
    Enverex wrote:
    Can't say I'll be doing CAD work or my accounting on a Playstation anytime soon... :rolleyes2
    I knew someone would pull a snarky comment. Thank you for filling in the void.

    I hope you realize that I was talking in terms of a gaming machine and/or media center, and that you were just trying to be funny
  • NosferatuNosferatu Arizona
    edited September 2005
    This is surprising? Every new console is supposed to be better than a gaming PC, yet every time it turns out to be marketing hype.
  • PirateNinjaPirateNinja Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    NINTENDO
  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    must... resist... posting in equally large letters "SUCKS"...
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    NINTENDO

    SUCKS
  • qparadoxqparadox Vancouver, BC
    edited September 2005
    NINTENDO

    Thrax wrote:
    SUCKS

    MORE PROFIT OUT OF CONSUMERS THAN XBOX + PS COMBINED

    (p.s.) I don't know if its true, but I couldn't resist =D.

    Nintendo is very good at making consoles / platforms that hit a much different audience than Sony + MS. But I'm not gonna even begin to claim that Nintendo hardware is in anyway technologically superior (or even that close).
  • JengoJengo Pasco, WA | USA
    edited September 2005
    NINTENDO PWNZ!!!
  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    Yeah man. I mean, Nintendo has the balls to make gritty, cutting-edge games like Mario Party.
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited September 2005
    Heh. But they do have the balls to a) pioneer the gaming market b) find a formula that works, and makes profit and c) stick to it.

    And Mario Party sucks, pay no attention to that game :)

    Wait for the new Zelda, then call the Gamecube a pile of junk ;)
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    Nitendo consoles are normally for people below the age of 12 (seriously, look at the majority games).
  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    entropy wrote:
    Heh. But they do have the balls to a) pioneer the gaming market b) find a formula that works, and makes profit and c) stick to it.

    And Mario Party sucks, pay no attention to that game :)

    Wait for the new Zelda, then call the Gamecube a pile of junk ;)
    I'm not saying they don't have a good business model, just that I'm not interested in being one of their consumers :D.
    While the new Zelda game looks better than the last ones, I've been out of the loop on Zelda for too long to get excited about the new game. The last one I played was on SNES.
  • PirateNinjaPirateNinja Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    Prime...please...assist in the large red letter war......must....gain.....support....from ... fellow.....



    NINTENDO



    ....

    fan.
  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    Prime...please...assist in the large red letter war......must....gain.....support....from ... fellow.....

    NINTENDO

    ....
    fan.
    Look, you guys can play your kiddy games on Nintendo all day. I won't deny you that right. But you're certainly not going to convince me to play them :p
  • GrayFoxGrayFox /dev/urandom Member
    edited September 2005
    Thrax wrote:
    SUCKS

    I second that and post it again but mine blinks :eek: (unless your on msie)
    <blink>NINTENDO SUCKS</blink>
  • GooDGooD Quebec (CAN) Member
    edited September 2005
    The only reason to buy a nintendo console is to play future Zelda games... Im so happy that FF (Final Fantasy) is now on PlayStation console, because i won't have to buy a kiddy console to play FF. :thumbsup:

    I can easily live without Zelda, but not without FF ;D
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    GrayFox wrote:
    I second that and post it again but mine blinks :eek: (unless your on msie)
    <blink>NINTENDO SUCKS</blink>

    Doesn't blink in Opera either :(
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    <marquee><blink>NINTENDO SUCKS</blink></marquee>

    I'm an equal opportunity offender in my use of obnoxious tags. You might even say I'm rather generous -- I'm cross-platform!
  • entropyentropy Yah-Der-Hey (Wisconsin)
    edited September 2005
    Y'know.. I can handle if people think a system sucks. I don't like the Xbox, for example.

    But when people say the Gamecube is a kiddy system I want to go on a ****ing rampage :mad:
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    Gamecube is a kiddy system.

    Here, let me save you the trouble.
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    Look, you guys can play your kiddy games on Nintendo all day. I won't deny you that right. But you're certainly not going to convince me to play them
    Hey now! I thought Snowboard Kids was great! I used to play that with Xander when he was a bit younger. :D
  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    entropy wrote:
    Y'know.. I can handle if people think a system sucks. I don't like the Xbox, for example.

    But when people say the Gamecube is a kiddy system I want to go on a ****ing rampage :mad:
    I'm the oppossite. I won't say it sucks; it's a capable piece of hardware. Too bad most of the games are for wee lads and lassies. Sure, people can point out the one or two exceptions, but am I going to buy a console for one or two exceptions? Heck no.
  • PirateNinjaPirateNinja Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    You guys are all to young to realize that you're never to old.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2005
    But apparently no longer too young to be sated by bright colours, bubbly text, flagrant abuse of the exclamation point, and mind-numbing puzzling.

    I <3 JUMPING PUZZLES
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