Stupid parents...

Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
edited September 2003 in Folding@Home
... have decided to possibly not let me have my DSL during at least the first quarter of the school year this year, which means I may not be producing much (or posting much... I can't stand my dad's AOL machine...) until January (at the worst)... :mad2: :banghead:

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  • TheSmJTheSmJ
    edited September 2003
    Kill your parents.
  • astroworpastroworp Northridge, CA
    edited September 2003
    are you not able to pay for it yourself? i've found that that's usually the most dertermining factor in whether or not people our age can get high speed services. if you use that angle, you'll most likely succeed. is it a matter of your parents not wanting your grades to slip? try rconvincing them to let you have it, and if your grades start to slip, then they can yank the plug.

    basically, try some different angles to get your point across.

    :)
  • citrixmetacitrixmeta Montreal, Quebec Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    hey geeky!

    maybe this will help?

    http://distributed.org.ru/?udmon.faq-fah

    WU cache.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    Astroworp... it's a grades issue. Unfortunately, I've tried all possible angles already... If I'm lucky, they'll either change their minds or forget, but right now I tend to doubt it.

    Citrix, that may very well be useful. Thanks!
  • tophericetopherice Oak Ridge, TN
    edited September 2003
    My parents don't pay for my DSL either. Here'a a tip for ya GET A J-O-B...
  • FormFactorFormFactor At the core of forgotten
    edited September 2003
    Got a lappy?

    Go war driving in your hood, see if you can "borrow" one of your neighbors Wi-Fi connections.

    I know a guy that "borrows" his neighbors wifi connection when he uses kazaa. He does that so the RIAA cannot find him. (I think thats a little unethical but it proves that this method should work.)
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    Topherice, I've got one. I told them I'd pay for it, but they never gave me the bill. They haven't complained about me making them pay for it (much)... it's just an issue of them not being happy with the way I approached Trig this summer... :rolleyes:

    FormFactor, I've got a laptop, and my neighbor has a wireless lan... they put a WEP key on it a few months back (which is partially why I bought my DSL...) but I think they've since taken it off... :D
  • FormFactorFormFactor At the core of forgotten
    edited September 2003
    WEP Keys can be broken if they are sending/recieveing a lot of data.

    I saw a video thats pretty informative on the subject, check it out on The Broken . Its in episode 1.


    This vid is pretty entertaining as well.

    If they or you are downloading or uploading a lot, the connection will prolly slow to a crawl though so you could get caught. So it may not be the best solution. But if all else fails...
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    For my folks, possibly meant "unless we sit down and let us set down usage limits" or "we think you might be doing something illegal" or "we think you are spending too much time with machines" or "we think you are leting the machine do all the work when you have a hard time."

    Try this-- instead of a cutoff, probation for one quarter. If Trig is the only thing, master it. Can you get an incomplete for such things before fall courses start if you talk to the teacher or prof and arrange to make up the work??? Trig will be a calc base preknowledge area needed for calc and you will need calc for elctronics advanced work and for software dev in any advanced area.

    Expect that to really succeed in either you will need to know Calc II or Calc III (college level II or III) reasonably well, as a lot of the algorithms are proprietory and NEW unique ones that rock get the most cash return and circuits are semi-fixed expressions of algortihms rendered into math logic form. If you just plain messed it up, you might want to retake it with a different teacher or prof or pull some tutorial time and get a good grounding in it. Most physics and advanced engineering also needs calc and trig helps a lot to understand calc even though it itself seems like a PITA to learn.

    Knowing math logic helps a lot, much of trig is math logic applications and applications of semi-finite set theory in condensed equations. Advanced calc can be defining finite subsets of infinite sets, and the fastest ways to define their scopes and memebr possibilities.

    A little bit of Geometrylogic can be used in calc,but most of it is more like trig. Even airline pilots need to know trig to know how to navigate manually in emergencies.

    Use the electronic tools after you know how to figure out where they are wrong (typically rounding or estimation error creeps that add up cumulatively and snowball) by proofing them manually if things go awry with autonavs and the best waypoint beacon set your navs can home on-- BTW, learning nav skills deep will help you master trig theory classes also, and vector math some. Navigation is mostly time, compensation vectors for cross and opposing at an angle winds, speed, and fuel to gen flight forward motion. Navigating a motor ocean vessel has a lot of these factors also-- substitute ocean currents for air crosswinds.

    John.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited September 2003
    Tackle the trig and keep em running. I hope they let you keep the net connection. Not just for folding but for your sanity. I would go nuts without a net connection. I wouldnt be on it nearly as much, prolly only for HM or games and I dont game much.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Be lucky you can even manage to get in trig.

    I get low Cs on decelerated algebra. :sad2: As in everything else.
  • citrixmetacitrixmeta Montreal, Quebec Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    FormFactor said
    WEP Keys can be broken if they are sending/recieveing a lot of data.

    I saw a video thats pretty informative on the subject, check it out on The Broken . Its in episode 1.


    This vid is pretty entertaining as well.

    If they or you are downloading or uploading a lot, the connection will prolly slow to a crawl though so you could get caught. So it may not be the best solution. But if all else fails...

    aren't these guys from ScreenSavers? (TechTV)
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    You can break a WEP key with 10-48 hours of packet sniffing. It's broadcasted in plain text on consumer-level routers, and none of those come with LEAP-encryption yet.
  • ClutchClutch North Carolina New
    edited September 2003
    Just crack down on the trig, show them that you can keep the net and still do good in school so they will not have to cut back on anything from you. I would go crazy without the internet, or if I had to go back to 56k, that would be like death. I do wish you the best of luck though.
  • MrBillMrBill Missouri Member
    edited September 2003
    Perhaps instead of calling your parents "stupid", you should thank them for giving you some initiative to do well in your studies.

    You WILL thank them later. ;)


    Note: If I was a teenager, I might not have the same opinion I expressed in this post.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    One other wild and hairy idea-- did you know thta CAD and CAD\CAM rely on operators who know trgi and some calc to see and fix bugs, and some folks use CAD to visualixe trig equation results and proof them??? These days advanced and in some cases specialized and custom rpogrammed CAD with skinning abilities is used for most engineering, and is used to simulate all sorts of things from black holes to space-time relations to wind effects, to 3D engien simulations, etc. It can be used backward, give it equation and have it display result, then give it your reduction of equation to visually proof it. Fi major errors, have a CAD program show the reduction stepwise, enmter intermediate equations, and where they vary suddenly and a lot from what you would expect, either you need to know something you missed learning to understand why or you just plain fubarred a step.

    Sudden massive CAD error is not just usually a program bug (the best CAD has been under dev for two decades or more, and was last I checked at version 14), it most often is operator calculation error. For a computerized machine shop that means lost materials, lost labor time, lost money, lost customers. Trade CAD knolwedge with trig learning-- CAD will help the machine shop, and you can visualize trig and calc results and steps to the results. Kinda like a wire mesh game dev, with skins available and texturing also. REAL life what-if gaming, and a very good specialty.

    Also a way to have interactive TRIG with feedback. Scholastic Learning has trig workout \drilling software, too. And there is this thing called MatLab to check against REAL good accurate results.

    John.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    Trig was over in the beginning of August, so...

    At any rate, we'll see... if nothing else, I can just "borrow" my neighbor's connection for a few months (again) ;D
  • FormFactorFormFactor At the core of forgotten
    edited September 2003
    citrixmeta said
    FormFactor said
    WEP Keys can be broken if they are sending/recieveing a lot of data.

    I saw a video thats pretty informative on the subject, check it out on The Broken . Its in episode 1.


    This vid is pretty entertaining as well.

    If they or you are downloading or uploading a lot, the connection will prolly slow to a crawl though so you could get caught. So it may not be the best solution. But if all else fails...

    aren't these guys from ScreenSavers? (TechTV)

    Indeed they are :)
  • FormFactorFormFactor At the core of forgotten
    edited September 2003
    MrBill said
    Perhaps instead of calling your parents "stupid", you should thank them for giving you some initiative to do well in your studies.

    You WILL thank them later. ;)


    Note: If I was a teenager, I might not have the same opinion I expressed in this post.


    And he is right about the fact that you WILL thank them later.

    Consider yourself lucky you have parents that push these kinds of values.

    I only wish my parents would have preached that kind of stuff.

    OMFG I sound like Im preaching :banghead: , am I getting old or what?
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    Oh I'm sure at some point, I'll be better off for it... but it's still highly irritating.
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited September 2003
    Trig?

    Man, I can't even recall what sine is. Is it 1/cotangent?

    LOL. It's pathetic how quickly one can forget something.

    The old addage again holds true: Don't use it. You lose it.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited September 2003
    a2jfreak said
    Trig?

    Man, I can't even recall what sine is. Is it 1/cotangent?

    Not even close man.;D
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Sine = opposite angle/hypotenuse
  • maxanonmaxanon Montreal
    edited September 2003
    Smart parents. Don't hack into someone else's connection. If you get caught, losing your DSL for a semester will seem really light.

    Do your work and take AOL as your penance. Trust me, the spector of AOL will definitely be a motivator to do better in school. Your first reaction should be why you suck at Trig. Were you d*cking around or just didn't understand?

    Stealing is also illegal, so we shouldn't even be discussing it.
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited September 2003
    Oh blah. I wasn't *that* far off. Mathematically I was wrong, but I knew it was a co-function. :)

    Let a = opposite
    Let b = hypotenuse

    sine(x) = a/b
    cosecant(x) = b/a

    sine(x) = 1/cosecant(x)

    I was *close* Sheesh. I just needed to replace cotangent with cosecant. Oh well.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited September 2003
    Close as in far away.;) Try and graph them.
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