My Kingston Horror

RWBRWB Icrontian
edited September 2003 in Hardware
Damn my hands hurt like hell from all this work! Pulling and shutting and pullinga nd shutting those gateson the Memory DIMMS to lock the memory into place.

First, I got my Kingston PC3200 C2 memory in today, wound up passing out in bed right after I got home from school. So I woke up a couple hours later, began putting in my new 1GB worth of the above fore-mentioned RAM. HyperX BTW.

Anyways, the fun part began when I put in the sticks and the system would turn on, but no post, no boot up, just the usual hated Black Screen and lots of repeating blinking lights on my Case. After putting them in-in every configuration I could think of between 1 Module and both modules at the same time in the 4 DIMMs I have. During which I tried my older RAM that worked just a few minutes before hand and BAM it would work perfectly fine.

Refusing to believe that the memory I ordered overnighted to my apartment, I kept trying and trying for a good hour, ugh my hands hurt still.

Eventually I just looked at the memory, staring at it with hatred and saw 2.6v, so I thought I might as well give it a try.

So I put back in m 1 stick of Corsair XMS DDR RAM that I knew would work, went into the BIOS and changed the Voltage to 2.6v, which BTW on my SINXP1394 MB is the HIGHEST it goes. After I changed it, rebooted, and shut down the system I took out the Corsair and put in one stick of the new Kingston RAM into the same exact DIMM.

IT WORKED!

So I shut down, put in the second stick in the second module so I could now have Dual Channel Mode. IT WORKED AGAIN!

Now that my system was up and running, and happy that my huge hands wouldn't have to creep into my system anymore, I started doing my usual Overclocking.

Kingston is reknown for Overclockability, so I set my FSB to 157, and my Memory had choices of (I am guessing off the top of my head right now) 371/393/418MHz speeds, 314MHz is default. Well at 314MHz I got 3500MBps in Sandra 2003, I upped this PC3200 400MHz Memory to the 418MHz mark, I mean 18 MHz is not something that should destablize this Memory!

My system wouldn't turn on.

So... after trying to getit to reboot, I realized I would have to once again, take out the memory, and put in the Corsair, then change the BIOS back to 2.6v and put back in the Kingston Memory. More finger loving goodness, not my sarcasm.

Well I fixed it, I set my memory timings to AUTO, set the memory to the 393Mhz area, and rebooted and it came on. Ran Sandra 2003, and it did 3800-3900MBps. Not shabby, but not what I want, I noticed my timings were 2.5/3/3/6 Which it is supposed to be 2/3/3/6 I think.

It currently runs and I am happy enough ATM. I wish I could set this memory to a higher voltage somehow, but I feel lost :(

If I ever destabilize my system, I know I will have to put in my Corsair RAM, which I am trying to sell. Imay have to take it off the market:bawling:

Comments

  • reelbigfishreelbigfish Boston, MA Member
    edited September 2003
    yeah, most PC3200 and higher requires more than 2.5V. Most is stock at 2.6V. Most motherboards now are using 2.6 as default. The ram can handle around 3.0V and not die, and sometimes you need to put it at 2.7-2.9V to get a stable overclock.
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Well my Corsair XMS didn't require more than 2.5v :P

    On top of that when I run mymemory at 392MHz or whatever speed it is, it can't even do thespecified speed at 2.6v, it shoudl do what it claims! Right now I run 314MHz :(
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    Could be that gigabyte board too... 2.6v is not enough for some DDR400, as stated. Mine, for example, takes 2.8v...
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited September 2003
    My Corsair TwinX-XMS3700 needs 2.75v to reach DDR466 & DDR500 speeds. The Asus P4C800-E automatically selected 2.6V for DDR400 operation.
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    I guess a HW mod is due for use ;)
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    Wait... what board do you have? I could've sworn it was in the original post, but now I can't find it... :scratch:
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Gigabyte SINXP1394 v1.0

    It's a nice board, but without the ability to actually change my VDIMM I am screwed pretty much :(
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    Yea... In all honesty, I'd find some <strike>unsuspecting schmuck</strike> well-informed person to sell it to, preferably for as close to what you paid for it of course (just remember that Barnum was wrong; it's more like every 30 seconds), and get a better board. If you're overclocking, you'll probably want an Abit, and it looks like the new 865/875 boards are the way to go right now...
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    heh, want this one for $50? I'll see if I can find another board for cheap.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    Naaah, tnx for the offer, but I've got a very good reason for not being interested, and I can sum it up in two words:

    SiS chipset

    ;D;D
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    haha... I have an ASUS P4P800 Deluxe in my Newegg.com shopping cart, and a Epson Stylus C62 Printer for less than 200 bucks total... should i go for it? Or any suggestions?

    Ijust added some AS Cermique :P I need to replace my OLD AS3
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    How about an NF7 and a 1700? ;D;D

    Seriously, I haven't looked into P4 boards much because I don't need to buy another mb OR cpu... However, I think the ABIT boards OC better than the ASUS does, although I'm honestly not totally sure. I can tell you that the tweo newest servers at work have ASUS P4C800-Deluxe boards, which is ASUS's 875 board, and they've been fine (but then, my dad won't let me overclock the servers either... and they've got 2.4Cs too... :bawling: )

    //Edited for grammar (don't expect me to produce coherent messages at 11:50 at night, OK? ;D )
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    OI!!!! You're making this hard on my pockets aren't joo! I don't think Newegg.com guarrantee's an NF7-s V2.0 though, and i ma told yous hould only get a v2.0 NF7-S. I will look into it though :P
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    It was tempting, but they only sell XP1700 T-Breds now(266MHz FSB), not even 333MHz, wtf? Plus I would need the Board, CPU, and a HSF which in the end would cost way too much, like $200 by itself, and an extra 75 or so for the printer :(
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    It really depends on what you want to do. Either a P4 board or an athlon/nf2 system would be a viable upgrade... I mean, the new P4-Cs are hitting INSANE clockspeeds (they may not be as fast at those speeds as an Athlon would, but still... 3.5-4GHz+ is impressive)
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    Yeah... considering that you've already got the P4 and various stuff for it (heatsink, etc.) I'd get an 865 or 875 chipset board and not worry about it... (I just have no idea WHICH board...)
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    I have a P4-2.4B, perfectly happy with it, it runs 2.8GHz easily and the difference between that and 3GHz - 3.2GHz on P4's are minimal and not worth the extra money IMHO, for me at least.

    I put in an IS7 instead, it's ABIT, haven't owned an ABIT in a long while, I do miss them :) Not as purty as Gigabyte, but I don't ever see it anyways. Plus it took off 25 bucks from my total because of free S&H!
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited September 2003
    SMF Trading Forum: ReelBigFish: Abit IS7 with Gigabit Lan $90 shipped
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited September 2003
    RWB: NewEgg doesn't guarantee v2.0, but I'm pretty sure that's all they have anymore. However, you can go to excaliberpc.com and order a v2.0. Careful though, excaliberpc's default shipping is S.................L..................O..................W A..................S A S.................N..................A...................I.......................L
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited September 2003
    Be sure to buy the Is7 with the 865PE.

    Buying one of those boards is basicly like getting a discount on the ic7, as the is7865PE has been hacked for the Canterwoods PAT. Btw... if you buy an nf7-s from newegg you will get a v 2.0, but if you purchase a 1700+ they have been selling tbred A's recently!

    If you need recommendations for a mobo all i can say is go abit or asus and make sure the chipset is either 875P or 865PE.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    If anyone has any question about ordering a NF7-S and getting the Rev 2.0 from Newegg here is pmy word that it is VERY VERY VERY EXTREMELY VERY CERTAIN YOU WILL GET ONE. Look at the date on my order and I got a Rev.2 as has anyone I heard ordering one from Newegg since I got mine.
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited September 2003
    I ordered a NF7 from Newegg two weeks ago and it was a 2.0
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    I had ordered this stuff already guys, I checked and the IS7 is a PE board, but what is this PAT crap? Is it any good or what?
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    I believe it stands for "Performance Acceleration Technology" or something like that.
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Geeky1 said
    I believe it stands for "Performance Acceleration Technology" or something like that.

    Yeah that is what it stands for, and I know it "supposedly" gives like 3-5% increase in speed, which sounds cool, but is it really? :)

    Just gota messege from Newegg.com I have been charged! Damn I wish it were Monday now, so that my order would be here this week.
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