P4 S L O W doing units?
keto
Occupied. Or is it preoccupied? Icrontian
OK I have 2 "fast" rigs and 2 "legacy" rigs folding. Since I joined the team roughly 2 months ago, AMD 2100+ @ 2000 MHz (10X200) has done 38 WU. Pretty much chugs out 1 a day.
P4 2.8 @ 3000 MHz (on Granite Bay dual channel mem) has had some down time but has returned EIGHT WU and is taking roughly 3 days per WU. Roughly the same as my 1.4 Thunderbird, so you can see the problem. I need some help optimizing this rig or figuring out what's going on, it used to do a unit roughly every 20 hours when I was on the OCCC team.
I'll probably need a little hand holding, I've never messed with tags or extensions or any type of H4X0r1Ng with F@H, suggestions welcomed and all will be tried.
Should I start by uninstalling and reinstalling? I'm running 3.24 graphical client, the log says it's running Gromacs core on project 542 right now.....
P4 2.8 @ 3000 MHz (on Granite Bay dual channel mem) has had some down time but has returned EIGHT WU and is taking roughly 3 days per WU. Roughly the same as my 1.4 Thunderbird, so you can see the problem. I need some help optimizing this rig or figuring out what's going on, it used to do a unit roughly every 20 hours when I was on the OCCC team.
I'll probably need a little hand holding, I've never messed with tags or extensions or any type of H4X0r1Ng with F@H, suggestions welcomed and all will be tried.
Should I start by uninstalling and reinstalling? I'm running 3.24 graphical client, the log says it's running Gromacs core on project 542 right now.....
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You mentioned "542". Man, am I ever having a headache with those! I'm looking for a solution that will just flat out force the Folding client to refuse to download 542 and 572 proteins, at least with my Intel rig.
You might like to follow this thread .
I've been to the Folding Community site. No extensive searches yet; but it appears Gromacs are causing other users, AMD and Intel, indigestion.
Keto, I hope we can solve this. I was getting 50-100% more production out of my System 1 than my System 2, until 1 started downloading proteins 542 and 572. Arrggggh!
And just to make sure, look in the log and make sure it says "Extra SSE boost OK".
Think I'm going to try dumping F@H off it, clean out all folders & registry entries, and start again.
What does it say in the taskmanagers performance tab when folding? 50 or 100%? If 50, then you have HT enabled and you therefore need another instance of the proggy to use the other 50. You do know that you can overclock higher WITHOUT hyperthreading right?
Yes, my stable OC on current moderate air cooling is probably 100-150 MHz higher, I had it in an H2O dual rad cooled rig (into which the NF7-S and 2100+ go this afternoon) and ran it a *little* higher than that but it's not a super OC chip. Neither is the board, my P4PE is probably good for +5 FSB over the 8INXP tho the RAID 0 and dual channel mem more than compensate for the difference.
*edit* see above, looks like we were posting at same time, no HT for me
Leo,
Similar to your experience, when I deleted 3.24 and all files/reg entries, and started up 3.25beta, I immediately got a 542 unit. Monitoring progress now. Also updated catalyst drivers to 3.7 (I think from 3.4) on the off chance that they may have had anything to do with problems, though not putting much stock in that thought. Gigabyte R9700Pro v1.0.
**EDIT** 90 minutes later it's 15% thru first WU, it hasn't moved this fast in a long time, let's all X our fingers toes n eyes ("YOU'RE FACE IS GONNA FREEZE LIKE THAT!!@!
Was cruising full bore, did about 65%ish WU in 7 hours, using beta 3.25. Did not notice that 3.25 didnt put an icon in the start menu. Rebooted computer and HEY! no F@H! OK manually start, whew, picked up where it left off. Rebooted again (required for some unknown reason to play a certain game, otherwise the open GL is conflicting I think but in any case the game crashes if F@H is or has been running), played for a bit, reloaded F@H LOST THE DAY'S WORK as it started a brand new WU :banghead:
"+ Processing work unit
[04:22:08] Core required: FahCore_65.exe
[04:22:08] Core not found.
[04:22:08] - Core is not present or corrupted.
[04:22:08] - Attempting to download new core..." (FROM LOG)
F@H is still not in start menu (added a shortcut to desktop) and not starting automatically on WINXP PRO startup.
Where do I go from here? If I'm gonna lose all my work on reboots this ain't cool........:shakehead
And I see core_65. Use advmethods and your P4 will fly even more with gromacs. Stanford will like that extra production increase.;)
Download the Intel one to a directory and right click on the Folding console exe file then select create shortcut (not send to desktop shortcut). Right click on the shortcut and select properties. In the "target" line add the tag/switch -advmethods. Then use that shortcut whenever you start the folding client or put that into your startup folder if you want it to start with windows. So your target line should look like this: D:/F@H/FAH3Console.exe -advmethods or it may have quotes and look like this: "D:/F@H/FAH3Console.exe" -advmethods
Same thing with the AMD one except the tag/switch in the target line of the shortcut should be -advmethods -forceasm and would look like this: D:/F@H/FAH3.25-Console-beta.exe -advmethods -forceasm or with quotes like this: D:/F@H/FAH3.25-Console-beta.exe -advmethods -forceasm. Graphical client is a waste of your time and cpu cycles. If you decide to use Electron Microscope III to monitor your folding then the FAH3.25-Console-beta.exe needs to be renamed to FAH3Console.exe for EMIII to pick it up on the AMD rigs. To shutdown folding you just close the console window or while it's highlighted you can press Ctrl + C.
So you're saying I can do a lot better with Console?
For what, five seconds' worth?
I guess for every time you have it open.
Any thoughts?
[05:32:36] Writing local files
[05:32:36] Completed 110000 out of 500000 steps (22)
[05:32:37] Extra SSE boost OK.
[05:44:44] Writing local files
[05:44:44] Completed 115000 out of 500000 steps (23)
23 was the first frame done after FAH was opened.
Keto: was that time when EMIII first started up cause you have to wait for it to finish a frame before it picks up the right time. Also from www.em-dc.com update your EM protein data file to get correct point and time info. With EMIII I personally use it to start folding when my machine boots up and show in html format a nice page of your protein folding history. Here's my options setup
click on make html then view html
NOW the problem is, it started from 0 again after a reboot. First time it's done that in about 8 reboots, was 64% done the WU.
Console/EM -advmethods
my head hurts:banghead:
it may look similar to this except probably all on one line perhaps:
[settings]
username=csimon
team=93
asknet=no
machineid=1
local=173
[http]
active=no
host=localhost
port=8080
usereg=no
[clienttype]
type=1
[core]
priority=0
disableassembly=no
ignoredeadlines=no
time we get down to the bottom of this ...hate losing cpuage.
username=keto
team=93
asknet=no
machineid=1
[http]
active=no
host=localhost
port=8080
usereg=yes
usepasswd=yes
That's the entire thing, seems to be some things missing....? ie. [clienttype] and [core]....Anything to do with EM?**EDIT**I'm guessing you are using display version whereas this is console. Do I get a cookie?
Also, usepasswd=yes, is this a local XP setting? Cause it's nothing I've set up.....
John.
I am running 3.24 console ...I installed it as a service but not using firedaemon.
one thing I notice for certain is that the priority is not set which probably means nothing since I think that it defaults to 0 which is good afaic.
when you reinstalled did you delete everything in the folder including the client.cfg? also ...if you keep the subfolder /work you shouldnt lose any wu's so until you get this thing settled in you may want to make a bak up copy of it periodically and you can restore it whenever necessary.
ok if you're willing to try something let me know I have an idea.
first of all forget about emIII for now til we get this stable
...make a backup folder for saving your most necessary files to include the console client fah3console ...the core fahcore_78.exe ...and the /work subfolder.
once you have backed that up delete the entire folder that included those previously named files and folders.
rename the backup copy back to its original name and start fah3console.exe run from the start menu ...this will mainly rebuild the client.cfg .... go through all of the prompts and if/when prompted to go through "advanced setup" if I remember correctly can choose yes ...everything should continue as defaults except for when it asks for a folding preference you should choose F@H and not G@H or BOTH.
once you've done this then get back to me with the client.cfg ...in the meantime show me your startup box please!
thanks
csimon