WTB: Speedstream 4100 or 4200

sjfeinbesjfeinbe Saginaw, MI
edited March 2006 in Trading Post
I'm seeking to acquire two Siemens Speedstream 4100/4200 ADSL modems (one of each or two of one) as inexpensively as possible. Also seeking two DSL filters. I'm going to sign up for SBC/ATT express DSL service.

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  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited March 2006
    Welcome to Short-Media. I hope you find what you're looking for, but that's a very specific, not-so-common order.

    It's not required here, but I'm sure other forum members will ask if you have any references such as Heatware or eBay evaluations. Again, it's not required, but often just makes private deals go through faster.

    Regards
  • sfleurietsfleuriet Texas New
    edited March 2006
    2Wire Gateway Router/Modems also work with SBC's DSL service, and usually a little bit better. I have a 2Wire HomePortal 165 I would love to sell you. It has 4 ethernet ports on the back, 1 Broadband Modem IN (if you wanted to use it WITH another DSL/Cable modem), 1 Phone Line IN, a USB (for a computer w/o a network card), and a Power Plug. I have the AC adapter too. I could probably include an unopened package of 1 Ethernet cable and 1 phone line cord too. Let me know if you're interested and where your shipping zip code would be, and we can make a deal!
  • sjfeinbesjfeinbe Saginaw, MI
    edited March 2006
    2Wire Gateway Router/Modems also work with SBC's DSL service, and usually a little bit better. I have a 2Wire HomePortal 165 I would love to sell you. It has 4 ethernet ports on the back, 1 Broadband Modem IN (if you wanted to use it WITH another DSL/Cable modem), 1 Phone Line IN, a USB (for a computer w/o a network card), and a Power Plug. I have the AC adapter too. I could probably include an unopened package of 1 Ethernet cable and 1 phone line cord too. Let me know if you're interested and where your shipping zip code would be, and we can make a deal!

    I appreciate the offer. I'm really seeking the DSL modems I indicated because the 4100 is what SBC currently uses (the 4200 is virtually identical). I like to make tech support calls (if I need to make any) as painless as possible. However, out of curiousity, is your gateway wireless as well as wired?

    Ebay feedback under sjfeinbe. I'm new to Heatware, but same as Ebay: sjfeinbe.
  • sfleurietsfleuriet Texas New
    edited March 2006
    sjfeinbe wrote:
    I appreciate the offer. I'm really seeking the DSL modems I indicated because the 4100 is what SBC currently uses (the 4200 is virtually identical). I like to make tech support calls (if I need to make any) as painless as possible. However, out of curiousity, is your gateway wireless as well as wired?

    Ebay feedback under sjfeinbe. I'm new to Heatware, but same as Ebay: sjfeinbe.
    No this one I want to sell is not. My parents use one just like it, but it has the wireless added. SBC sells the 2Wire routers, so having them help you over the phone would be just as easy. I think all you would need is a CD to install the software. I might be able to copy one for you if you change your mind and want it.
  • sjfeinbesjfeinbe Saginaw, MI
    edited March 2006
    This is certainly an interesting device as I saw here:
    http://www.dsldepot.com/dslmodem.asp?modem=100

    but it isn't a DSL modem. It's a router. An interesting router, but just a router.
  • sfleurietsfleuriet Texas New
    edited March 2006
    sjfeinbe wrote:
    This is certainly an interesting device as I saw here:
    http://www.dsldepot.com/dslmodem.asp?modem=100

    but it isn't a DSL modem. It's a router. An interesting router, but just a router.
    Okay if you're not interested, that's fine. But don't sit here and argue with me. It works as a router and DSL modem. SBC/ATT sells them (or definitely used to).

    Well here we have it: Link
    That is not the same one I'm offering to sell, but my parents are using it. Phone line and power cord goes in... the HP desktop is wired into it... and my mom and sister (when home) use the wireless all the time - verry fast speeds.
  • sjfeinbesjfeinbe Saginaw, MI
    edited March 2006
    Okay if you're not interested, that's fine. But don't sit here and argue with me. It works as a router and DSL modem. SBC/ATT sells them (or definitely used to).

    Well here we have it: Link
    That is not the same one I'm offering to sell, but my parents are using it. Phone line and power cord goes in... the HP desktop is wired into it... and my mom and sister (when home) use the wireless all the time - verry fast speeds.

    I think you may be over reacting just a tad. In any case, the link I gave you clearly describes the 165 as a router, not as a router/DSL modem combined. Just to be sure, I downloaded the user's guide from 2wire.com, the manufacturer of the 165, from this link for the 100 series:
    http://www.2wire.com/pages/pdfs/100_series_Gateway_Install_Guide.pdf

    On page 5 "Troubleshooting Diagnosing Connection Problems" it says:

    "Verify that your broadband modem is connected to the gateway broadband modem port"

    Later on in the user's guide, on the first page of appendix C, it shows a diagram of an external broadband modem connected to the 100 series gateway.

    As I said, it's an interesting router, but, according to the manufacturer, does NOT contain a broadband modem, DSL or otherwise. Such devices connect to it.
  • sfleurietsfleuriet Texas New
    edited March 2006
    Okay. Well I'm going to bed, but I can be certain that the one I have works as a router and modem.
  • edited March 2006
    I have a SpeedStream 5851 if you want it. It's yours for $10 plus however much it costs to ship (~$4).
  • sjfeinbesjfeinbe Saginaw, MI
    edited March 2006
    Thanks for the offer of the SpeedStream 5851! I downloaded the pdf file from Siemens (the manufacturer) here:
    subscriber.communications.siemens.com/subscriber_networks/pdf/5800_datasheet.pdf
    and found out that it's a router for SDSL. While it's a very good SDSL router, I just need a 4100/4200 ADSL modem.
  • edited March 2006
    You can get a free 4100 speedstream modem just for signing up for sbc. It's free after rebate.
  • sjfeinbesjfeinbe Saginaw, MI
    edited March 2006
    skankinred wrote:
    You can get a free 4100 speedstream modem just for signing up for sbc. It's free after rebate.

    Not exactly. First, you have to wait at least 60 days BEFORE asking for the rebate:
    "High-speed Internet account must be in service for a minimum of 60 days to be eligible for rebate."

    Then you have to wait another 10 to 12 weeks:
    "Rebate check will be mailed to the customer's billing address within 10-12 weeks of receipt of the rebate postcard."

    After all that, you don't get it all back anyway:
    "...receive a $49.99 mail-in rebate (taxes and a $12.95 shipping and handling fee apply)."

    The modem costs $49.99 plus $12.95 plus another $3.00 in taxes (in Michigan) for a total of nearly $66.00. So you wait for nearly five months, then do NOT get all of it back. Yippee.
  • edited March 2006
    You do not have to wait for 60 days at all. You submit the reabte immediately and only wait 8-11 weeks for it to come back. Yes the shipping is riddiculous. But at least you get the 12.99/month for a whole year. If you try to sign up by calling sbc, you will only get 19.99/month for the express package plus at least 10.96 for required local calling phone package.
    Here's the promotions for activating by phone/internet.

    Phone:
    $19.99 express - current customers who do NOT have required addons($21.95-cheapest 5pack + $2.00-cheapest Long Distance).
    $31.99 pro - current customers who do NOT have required addons($21.95-cheapest 5pack + $2.00-cheapest Long Distance).
    $14.99 express - current customers who WANT required addons($21.95-cheapest 5pack + $2.00-cheapest Long Distance).
    $19.99 pro - current customers who WANT required addons($21.95-cheapest 5pack + $2.00-cheapest Long Distance).

    Internet:
    $12.99 express - NEW customers signup ONLINE and no addons, with free wired modem AFTER rebate.
    $17.99 pro - NEW customers signup ONLINE and no addons, with free wired modem AFTER rebate.

    You have to buy the modem if you sign up online for the new customer promotions. No new customer promotions are available over the phone.

    If you currently have CABLE internet, then you can qualify for 3months free on top of the 12.99/month for a year promotion. Prices jump up to 27.99 after the year contract, but you can usually sign up for new promotions when your term is ending, since for the last 2 years they have been offering really good promotions every couple of months.
  • sjfeinbesjfeinbe Saginaw, MI
    edited March 2006
    skankinred wrote:
    You do not have to wait for 60 days at all. You submit the reabte immediately and only wait 8-11 weeks for it to come back.

    The quote I gave was taken from this link:
    http://att.jpdmi.com/savings/legal.php

    Scroll down a little and you'll see this in the text:
    "High-speed Internet account must be in service for a minimum of 60 days to be eligible for rebate."

    If it isn't a 60 day wait before turning in the rebate, I'd be very pleased. However, that page clearly says it is. Also, you're right about requiring to buy the modem when signing up online. I wanted a second modem and the several months wait for a rebate that doesn't really cover the total cost of the modem isn't "free."
  • sjfeinbesjfeinbe Saginaw, MI
    edited March 2006
    skankinred wrote:
    You submit the reabte immediately and only wait 8-11 weeks for it to come back.

    Same link:
    http://att.jpdmi.com/savings/legal.php

    Says this:
    "Rebate check will be mailed to the customer’s billing address within 10–12 weeks of receipt of the rebate postcard."

    If it's less, that's great, but it clearly says 10-12 weeks. That's a total, with the 60 day wait, of about five months.
  • edited March 2006
    You don't have to wait 60days to send it in. It just means you have to have at least 60 days of sevice to qualify. They will approve it as soon as 60 days hits. You should recive it shortly after 60 days. This is how my I got my rebate last year, and my grandparents who signed up a couple months ago.

    If you are interested in the sbc deals and discussion, check out www.fatwallet.com and click on hot deal forum. Type sbc in the search.

    EDIT: btw, don't use 2wire or any other crappy modems. The speedstreams are best. If you want wireless, buy a Seperate linksys/netgear router.
  • sjfeinbesjfeinbe Saginaw, MI
    edited March 2006
    skankinred wrote:
    You don't have to wait 60days to send it in. It just means you have to have at least 60 days of sevice to qualify. They will approve it as soon as 60 days hits. You should recive it shortly after 60 days. This is how my I got my rebate last year, and my grandparents who signed up a couple months ago.

    If you are interested in the sbc deals and discussion, check out www.fatwallet.com and click on hot deal forum. Type sbc in the search.

    EDIT: btw, don't use 2wire or any other crappy modems. The speedstreams are best. If you want wireless, buy a Seperate linksys/netgear router.

    If you're right, and I think you're reading may be accurate, that's great! That means it's only a little more than two months to wait instead of five! Also, thanks for the heads up about 2wire and the link to fatwallet.com. I heard about them, but just forgot because they're are so many "deal" sites.
  • edited March 2006
    The speedstream package from the website includes 5 dsl filters, if I remember correctly, plus a wall mount jack and phone cords.
  • sjfeinbesjfeinbe Saginaw, MI
    edited March 2006
    skankinred wrote:
    The speedstream package from the website includes 5 dsl filters, if I remember correctly, plus a wall mount jack and phone cords.

    Yes, that's accurate. I've installed these for others and that's what they include. I was also surprised that the CD-ROM (for the 4100) didn't install all kinds of junk as the slightly older SBC/Yahoo version did (for the 5100).
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