problem with cpu usage

MohenjoMohenjo
edited March 2006 in Science & Tech
i just recently built a new system from all new parts, installed a new version of windows w/sp2 here are the specs:

AMD64 X2 4200+ CPU
1024 RAM 3200 400
Asus A8R-MVP Motherboard
Asus/Ati X1900XT 512MB GPU
160Gig SATA HDD
500watt Antec Power Supply

not a bad little system. however, its running much slower than i would expect it to. something has to be wrong. my old system (p4 2.8, 1gig ram, 60gig hd, ati9800 pro) ran faster. If i leave my new system idle for a few hours and come back to it, its very choppy and slow. When i ctr-alt-delete and check my cpu usage it is over 50% when i move windows or even icons on my desktop around!!!! could this be a problem with my cpu. i have installed all the software and drivers that i could possibly think of. i dont know whats going on.

at first i thought it was the motherboard because i have heard many neg's about the A8R-MVP, but my problems dont match those of other people with this mobo.

any thoughts?

thanks =)

Comments

  • tmh88tmh88 Pittsburgh / Athens, OH
    edited March 2006
    Could be a number of things....but first how long ago did you build this computer, and when did this problem first start appearing?

    run hijackthis and post the results(try any other spyware programs you have too), could be some nasty bugs at work. I think it would be best to take care of that first so then if we cant find anything we can target that it is the hardware.
  • MohenjoMohenjo
    edited March 2006
    i built the computer about a week ago. i dont have any spyware or at least not by the programs i use, ill try hijackthis.
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited March 2006
    Also, when the CPU is at 50% utilization, please perform ctrl-alt-del, click on Task Manager/Processes, and see what specifically is running. If it's too much to write down, do a screenshot and post it for us.
  • MohenjoMohenjo
    edited March 2006
    ok tried hijackthis, and im not too confident in my abilities to filter what i need and what i dont neeed.


    heres the process's that are running.

    untitled.jpg



    edit- hrm gotta figure out how to resize that, photobucket must have resized it bleh.
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited March 2006
    I'm sorry, but my 45 year old eyes just can't read that! ;D;D




    I'm not laughing at you so much as I am at just the comedy of the situation.
  • tmh88tmh88 Pittsburgh / Athens, OH
    edited March 2006
    dont bother with photobucket, just add it as an attatchment.
  • DennisDennis lost in my mind for years
    edited March 2006
    Maybe one of the items you stated is corrupted. One more thing, try www.tinypic.com to upload the image.
  • MohenjoMohenjo
    edited March 2006
    not letting me add anything as an attachment. boggle.
  • MohenjoMohenjo
    edited March 2006
    while system is idle....

    rhjzi9.jpg



    while moving around a window.....

    rhjyva.jpg
  • botheredbothered Manchester UK
    edited March 2006
    Probably nothing to do with it but, I built one that was a lot slower than I thought it should be. Turned out the HDD had set itself to PIO mode, changed to DMA and it was a lot faster.
  • MohenjoMohenjo
    edited March 2006
    looked in bios...where do i find that about my hard drive?
  • botheredbothered Manchester UK
    edited March 2006
    Control panel, system, hardware, device manager, IDE/ATAPI controllers, primary IDE channel, properties.
  • MohenjoMohenjo
    edited March 2006
    well its already been set to dma so i guess that wasnt it =(
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited March 2006
    Check to see if your graphics driver is installed properly. I've had problems with a sluggish Windows interface when the default (Windows) video driver was installed instead of the ATI driver.

    I can peg "explorer.exe" at 60% when moving around a window, but it doesn't seem slow at all. I'm leaning toward a video driver issue.
  • MohenjoMohenjo
    edited March 2006
    all graphics drivers for the x1900xt are up to date.
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited March 2006
    At any rate, I can almost guarantee you that the problem is driver or software related, and not an issue with your CPU's hardware.

    Check the system properties in Control Panel and let us know what it is saying your CPU speed is when you're seeing the slowdowns. It's possible that the Cool'n'Quiet driver has an issue and is keeping your CPU slow when it should step up to normal speeds.
  • MohenjoMohenjo
    edited March 2006
    where is it listing the cpu speed there? im not finding it..... also gonna see if i can find and updated cool'n'quiet driver....
  • MohenjoMohenjo
    edited March 2006
    ok on amd site i found only drivers for linux, ME, and 2000, non for XP =/
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited March 2006
    Settings/Control Panel/System Properties - the CPU type and speed are listed at the bottom of this screen's "General" tab. For CPUs that clock down during times of low intensity usage (such as notebook CPUs and CPUs in Cool'n'Quiet mode) the speed that is listed will be lower than the rated max CPU speed when the mode is engaged. If you're seeing something like 800MHz when you're moving windows around your screen, there may be a driver glitch.

    If so, you should be able to disable Cool'n'Quiet mode in your BIOS. If the problem goes away after that, then we can look into fixing the issue with the driver, or you can leave the mode disabled.
  • MohenjoMohenjo
    edited March 2006
    alright, it says 2.21ghz continously...

    about the cool'n'quiet.... when i first started having these problems i went into my bios and noticed it was disabled and i enabled it to see if that would help.... so dont think thats the prob, but gonna try anyway.
  • MohenjoMohenjo
    edited March 2006
    well, since this doenst seem like a hardware issue to you guys im gonna go ahead and transfer this post to the software section.

    thanks for all the help guys
  • MohenjoMohenjo
    edited March 2006
    this is copy pasted from my post in the hardware section, peeps there seem to think its not a hardware issue...so here i am =D....


    i just recently built a new system from all new parts, installed a new version of windows w/sp2 here are the specs:

    AMD64 X2 4200+ CPU
    1024 RAM 3200 400
    Asus A8R-MVP Motherboard
    Asus/Ati X1900XT 512MB GPU
    160Gig SATA HDD
    500watt Antec Power Supply

    not a bad little system. however, its running much slower than i would expect it to. something has to be wrong. my old system (p4 2.8, 1gig ram, 60gig hd, ati9800 pro) ran faster. If i leave my new system idle for a few hours and come back to it, its very choppy and slow. When i ctr-alt-delete and check my cpu usage it is over 50% when i move windows or even icons on my desktop around!!!! could this be a problem with my cpu. i have installed all the software and drivers that i could possibly think of. i dont know whats going on.

    at first i thought it was the motherboard because i have heard many neg's about the A8R-MVP, but my problems dont match those of other people with this mobo.

    any thoughts?

    thanks =)
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited March 2006
    I merged your two threads so people could see what you have already tried. :)

    Like GHoosdum said, try disabling the Cool & Quiet stuff and see if that makes a difference.
  • MohenjoMohenjo
    edited March 2006
    thanks profdlp, diabled coolnquiet and the problem persists.
  • MohenjoMohenjo
    edited March 2006
    this is what is happening when i move the task manager window around....


    ri5i08.jpg
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited March 2006
    Sorry - I missed the part where you'd already tried killing C&Q. :doh:

    Post a HijackThis log here. Even though with a fresh install it is unlikely to be a virus, etc, it will provide us with a detailed list of everything you have running.

    You might also want to get the (free) Startup Inspector. It works like msconfig, but is a lot easier to use. :)
  • MohenjoMohenjo
    edited March 2006
    hijackthis:

    Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
    Scan saved at 11:50:29 AM, on 3/15/2006
    Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
    MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

    Running processes:
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccProxy.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe
    C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\ISSVC.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SPBBC\SPBBCSvc.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\ATKKBService.exe
    C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
    C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\Core\smax4pnp.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\AOL\1141445199\ee\AOLSoftware.exe
    C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe
    C:\Program Files\ASUS\SmartDoctor\SmartDoctor.exe
    c:\program files\common files\aol\1141445199\ee\aim6.exe
    C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe
    C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
    C:\DOCUME~1\Mohenjo\LOCALS~1\Temp\Temporary Directory 3 for hijackthis.zip\HijackThis.exe

    O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
    O2 - BHO: Norton Internet Security - {9ECB9560-04F9-4bbc-943D-298DDF1699E1} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\AdBlocking\NISShExt.dll
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    O3 - Toolbar: Norton Internet Security - {0B53EAC3-8D69-4b9e-9B19-A37C9A5676A7} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\AdBlocking\NISShExt.dll
    O3 - Toolbar: Norton AntiVirus - {42CDD1BF-3FFB-4238-8AD1-7859DF00B1D6} - C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [GameFace Messenger] C:\Program Files\GameFace Messenger\GameFace.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [High Definition Audio Property Page Shortcut] HDAShCut.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SoundMAXPnP] C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\Core\smax4pnp.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SoundMAX] "C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\SoundMAX\Smax4.exe" /tray
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Symantec NetDriver Monitor] C:\PROGRA~1\SYMNET~1\SNDMon.exe /Consumer
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HostManager] C:\Program Files\Common Files\AOL\1141445199\ee\AOLSoftware.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ATICCC] "C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe" runtime -Delay
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ASUS SmartDoctor] C:\Program Files\ASUS\SmartDoctor\SmartDoctor.exe /start
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Aim6] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\AOL\Launch\AOLLaunch.exe" /d locale=en-US ee://aol/imApp
    O4 - Startup: Registration .LNK = C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Peter Jackson's King Kong - The Official Game of the Movie\RegistrationReminder.exe
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    O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
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    O23 - Service: Ati HotKey Poller - ATI Technologies Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
    O23 - Service: ATI Smart - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2sgag.exe
    O23 - Service: ATK Keyboard Service (ATKKeyboardService) - ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. - C:\WINDOWS\ATKKBService.exe
    O23 - Service: Symantec Event Manager (ccEvtMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
    O23 - Service: Symantec Network Proxy (ccProxy) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccProxy.exe
    O23 - Service: Symantec Password Validation (ccPwdSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccPwdSvc.exe
    O23 - Service: Symantec Settings Manager (ccSetMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe
    O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\11\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
    O23 - Service: ISSvc (ISSVC) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\ISSVC.exe
    O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect Service (navapsvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
    O23 - Service: SAVScan - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\Norton AntiVirus\SAVScan.exe
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