Games: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly -- What's Hot and What's Not

LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciersEagle River, Alaska Icrontian
edited May 2006 in Gaming
Here's your opportunity to comment on games in general and specifically.

So much lately is being written in reviews and gaming forums, commenting on games that appear at the outset to be the latest and greatest. Some new games turn out to be much ado about nothing. Some new games seem to be yesterday's wonder with merely the dust knocked off. But which are the games that are truly creative, technically superior, and downright fun to play?

Sound off! Tell us what games you find to be intriguing, technically challenging, or unfortunately, God's gift to the insomniac!

Please let us know the WHY of what you think. Give details when you can. Help out your fellow gamer!

This thread is fair game for computer games, XBox, PlayStation, and Nintendo. Please, no gaming platform fanboy-type posts. This thread is about the games themselves.

Comments

  • EMTEMT Seattle, WA Icrontian
    edited April 2006
    Oblivion. I don't have time to give the why. Must get back to playing.

    But seriously:
    -This is one game that is *not* one step behind the current generation of video cards, to the dismay of my 9500... but low graphics settings don't stop this game from being lots of fun.
    -There's so much to do in the game; I just like exploring... it's the first great single player game in a long time, or maybe since its predecessor, Morrowind.
    -It's a balanced RPG with a get-better-as-you-practice system of advancement.
    -Then there's all the mods,
    -the potential for more mods (the community is huge), and
    -the potential to make your own mod!

    As far as latest and greatest and goes, Oblivion is the real thing.
  • V-PV-P State College, PA Member
    edited April 2006
    The Elder Scrolls II - Daggerfall

    This game is old and has crappy graphics, but it was state of the art in 1999. It is one of the best games I've ever played. It never ends, has thousands of missions, roles, places to go.... I've never played every single role in the game...

    The absolute best game I've ever played is Final Fantasy VII. That game got me hooked. I played for 57 hours I think, I felt like crying when Aeris died... And Tifa was hot...
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited April 2006
    I'll be back with explanations in a little bit, but...

    Giants: Citizen Kabuto
    Sim City series
    StarCraft/Brood Wars
    Dungeon Siege
    EverQuest
    Tyrian
    Megaman 2
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Galaxy 5000
  • tmh88tmh88 Pittsburgh / Athens, OH
    edited April 2006
    You know your a loser when you think
    SCAR wrote:
    Tifa was hot...

    ;D
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited April 2006
    Funny you should mention Tifa... I just saw the american version of Advent Children today :D

    tifa was hotter in the game :eek3:
  • drasnordrasnor Starship Operator Hawthorne, CA Icrontian
    edited April 2006
    I dunno, she had breasts the size of cantaloupes. :eek:

    I've had a lot of fun lately playing Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song. I'm the only one I know that likes the SaGa games but if you like the series it's a worthy addition and lacks the more annoying aspects from the earlier games (no consumable armor). I think it has like 12 different storylines that all converge around the end. I've played it for about 40 hours and I'm getting near the end of one storyline.

    -drasnor :fold:
  • shwaipshwaip bluffin' with my muffin Icrontian
    edited April 2006
    Hot:
    Oblivion. It's just so open-ended, and so pretty. There's just so much to keep you busy at all times. The only thing that I don't like is that there's no multiplayer to it. I already want to play through it again so I can be a badguy.

    Tepid:
    BF2. I had a blast when I was playing it a lot, but the idiots ruined it for me. It also seems that EA was more concerned with making money than fixing problems with the game. I'd probably play a lot more if I didn't play oblivion.
  • NiGHTSNiGHTS San Diego Icrontian
    edited April 2006
    The GTA-esque Godfather is fun to mess around in from time to time. It gets old and repetative after so many hours of playing it, and the missions resemble one another eventually. However, it is fun following the movie and taking the mobster roll, afterall nothing says intimidation like a tommygun, fedora, and trenchcoat.
  • Buddha16Buddha16 Austin, Tx Member
    edited May 2006
    SCAR wrote:
    The absolute best game I've ever played is Final Fantasy VII. That game got me hooked. I played for 57 hours I think, I felt like crying when Aeris died... And Tifa was hot...


    I agree! I played it through 3 times in a week and a half the summer after it came out. Once just normal, the second with my game genie (was fun starting the game with the best sword for cloud) and the third with the walkthrough. I loved it each time.......and cried at the end each time.:crazy:
  • tmh88tmh88 Pittsburgh / Athens, OH
    edited May 2006
    are there any versions of metal gear solid out for pc, or is it just for ps2? I loved those games
  • botheredbothered Manchester UK
    edited May 2006
    I asked on another forum whether games had got better or not. I used to get a game and spend weeks finishing it, they used to really grip me. Games like TR2, Thief, Deus X and Shadowman were superb. All the follow ups to these got nicer graphics and shorter. It's like the new TR7, they boast about how many polygons Lara has and how her 'character' now has a past and more depth. What it lost was the puzzles and length that made earlier games so addictive. Yeah, it looks nice but I don't think I ever bought a game because it looked nice. The developers seem to be into some industry competition to win awards for technical achievement with customer satisfaction coming second. I used to get sucked into games because I had to see what happened next, what was around the next corner or through that locked door. Story lines or plot seem to have been swapped for appearance: I now have quite a few games that had an initial impact but I never finished because they got boring. I can see the day coming when a game will last 2 hours but will be photo realistic and have superb physics and lighting but the mission will be to pop down to the shops and buy a paper.
  • deicistdeicist Manchester, UK
    edited May 2006
    Here's some of my favourites:

    Oblivion
    Despite it's flaws still one of the best games ever made (IMO). So much to do and see, and the mod community is just getting started. I wouldn't be suprised if a mod comes along within the next year or so that is even better than the original game.

    First 2 games of the X-COM series (enemy unknown & terror from the deep)
    Had a unique magic that was lost in the later games. Even with the dodgy graphics and the repetitive missions the core gameplay of this series has never been bettered or even matched.


    Master of orion 2
    Again, dodgy graphics couldn't stop this behometh of a space strategy game from eating up a huge amount of my free time. I don't think I've ever spent as long playing a game as I did with this beauty.

    Unreal (the original single player game, not UT)
    My favourite FPS ever. The moment when you first step out of the prison ship onto the planet surface and see the grass stretching away on front of you is one of my all time best gaming memories. Probably didn't add very much to the FPS genre when it came to gameplay, but was a perfect example of blending classic gaming design with new technology to create something special.
  • CycloniteCyclonite Tampa, Florida Icrontian
    edited May 2006
    It seems like "thie big thing" now is uber-impressive graphics. Like was previously said, we get them, but at a cost: The game is short!

    I remember "in the old days" when I had an NES, SNES, etc. I'd finish a game, and be hooked the entire time. Now, I have so many unfinished games lying on my shelf, it's rediculous.

    Doom 3, for instance. What a joke. All the hype behind it. It may have looked good, but god it was boring. I fell for that. Then I fell for it again with Quake 4. Grrr!

    The last game that kept my interest was WoW. Granted, it's an MMO, so it's constantly changing, and there's a lot of human interaction. I just got back into Guild Wars, and it's a lot of fun too.

    As for single player game that has my interest: Oblivion is amazing. I just finally picked up Kingdom Hearts. Fantastic game. I actually played a Demo of G.R.A.W. last night on my 360. I really liked it. I may pick it up soon.

    I used to be a big FPS fan, but now it's a bunch of the same ol' shizzle. "This game is going to be totally inovative! Look! We added a monkey by your side!"

    Although, I enjoyed Half-Life 2 immensely. That's, in my opinion, and awesome FPS. I'm super excited about Epsiode 1's release.

    Sorry, just a bunch of random thoughts. I'll probably post more later.
  • AuthorityActionAuthorityAction Missouri Member
    edited May 2006
    SCAR wrote:
    The absolute best game I've ever played is Final Fantasy VII. That game got me hooked. I played for 57 hours I think, I felt like crying when Aeris died... And Tifa was hot...

    I love FFVII, I've logged more than 100 hours on my playstation and about 50 hours using an emulator on my laptop. Right now I'm working on doing everything, which can take a while since it's pretty in depth.
  • NiGHTSNiGHTS San Diego Icrontian
    edited May 2006
    A common thing I find when people complain about FPS's online is that they're mindless and full of kids bunnyhopping and screaming over the microphone. I agree, but also feel that if you're willing to drop $50 on the title, then you should be willing to put in the time and effort to finding a mature online community to play with.

    It can be tedious, but they do exist. I'm part of a unit that has played 3 games in a way that's been dubbed "Tactical Realism," we started before the style of play even had a name. The [3rd ID] started in the beta 1.0 days of Day of Defeat. We left when Steam took it over and moved to Call of Duty, then United Offensive, and currently play Call of Duty 2.

    We pride ourselves on our ability to use communication and strategy even in public play, shunning run and gun, grenade spam, and general asshattery on our server. We're not alone anymore, many other units have since spawned up following the same style of play in various games. MOH, COD, and the more recent RO caiter to our style of play, and I know BF2 and AA units exist as well.

    If you're unimpressed with who you're playing with online, try googling the FPS's name with "Tactical Realism" after the name to find a unit/clan that's willing to give you a better experience online.
  • Buddha16Buddha16 Austin, Tx Member
    edited May 2006
    NiGHTS wrote:
    A common thing I find when people complain about FPS's online is that they're mindless and full of kids bunnyhopping and screaming over the microphone. I agree, but also feel that if you're willing to drop $50 on the title, then you should be willing to put in the time and effort to finding a mature online community to play with.

    It can be tedious, but they do exist. I'm part of a unit that has played 3 games in a way that's been dubbed "Tactical Realism," we started before the style of play even had a name. The [3rd ID] started in the beta 1.0 days of Day of Defeat. We left when Steam took it over and moved to Call of Duty, then United Offensive, and currently play Call of Duty 2.

    We pride ourselves on our ability to use communication and strategy even in public play, shunning run and gun, grenade spam, and general asshattery on our server. We're not alone anymore, many other units have since spawned up following the same style of play in various games. MOH, COD, and the more recent RO caiter to our style of play, and I know BF2 and AA units exist as well.

    If you're unimpressed with who you're playing with online, try googling the FPS's name with "Tactical Realism" after the name to find a unit/clan that's willing to give you a better experience online.


    Thats pretty cool.
  • botheredbothered Manchester UK
    edited May 2006
    Nights, I play in a CoD2 clan that's similar, nWo, look us up and come game. You'd enjoy it.
  • NiGHTSNiGHTS San Diego Icrontian
    edited May 2006
    Buddha16 wrote:
    Thats pretty cool.


    Yeah, it completely changed the way I look at online shooters alltogether. I've basically been spoiled with the gameplay, and I can't stand being in a server that isn't "tactically realistic."

    The unit I'm part of (we hate being called a clan) actually takes it a step further, following WWII rank structure and command. We have a very stringent acceptance policy on potential recruits, some wait to be enlisted up to 8 or 9 months. We want someone that is devoted to our style of play and that's proven they're worthy of wearing our tags, we don't accept anyone on impulse. After a basic training class of a month or so, they're promoted to a PFC and slowly move up the ranks after proving their worth within the unit. Nomad (Thrax's better half :tongue:,) for example, moved from Private to Sergeant before backing out his now senior year of HS. During that time he took on roles of both Unit Adjutant and Unit Drill Instructor.

    We have drills twice a week, consists of going over maps, techniques, squad movement, etc. and any announcements we have. The 5 year old unit was founded by a WWII reenactor from Florida, and carried some of the more interesting traditions of the Army with him to the game. For instance, in these drills we have our own CORD (Close Order Rifle Drill) that all members of the unit are expected to pass. Any major WWII memorials we perform the drill as a sign of respect as well, and after any matches its our way of saying "good game."

    There is actually so much involvement with the tactically realistic style of play from United Offensive alone that it allowed us to re-create a campaign league from the day of defeat days we once competed in. I'm an administrator for The European Theatre of Operations, a dynamic campaign that allows tactically realistic units to compete in something other than a normal ladder league, ...think Risk's world map with each hex being an ingame COD map that's played upon. The results of the previous campaign directly affect the next.

    Our first campaign was a realistic one, the allied forces attempted to break Normandy and France from axis forces. We had 5 units "storm" the beaches of Normandy (the COD Dog1 map) and allied paradrops further inland. After 12 or so weeks, the axis forces had finally pushed the allied advance out of the sector. The second campaign will start soon with something that would have reasonably happened had the Luftwaffe been more successful, German troops storming the beaches of Britian in "Operation Sealion." With over 1200 members, 13k forum posts, and 3 million website hits in just one year, I can safely say it was a success.

    Basically, I'd say that Tactical Realism is something that is hot. Its showing itself in more games, people are demanding it. Modifications like Day of Defeat, Resistance and Liberation, 1944:D-Day, Red Orchestra, etc all caiter more and more to "realistic play." The FPS you play dramatically changes when you have a new reason to play it, and its something that makes even older games continually interesting. You build a community as strong as the one here if you stick with it. The 3rd ID's 5 years of existance has done just that.
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited May 2006
    If I were gaming, I'd be enlisting in your unit. I'm former 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment, Nuernberg, Germany; former 6th Infantry Division (Light), Fort Wainwright, Alaska. I wasn't infantry, but the tactical emphasis and realism you guys stress sounds very engaging. Your idea of proving oneself and being a true team player under realistic (as far as electrons and a screen can be) game circumstances would, yes, completely change the game.
  • NiGHTSNiGHTS San Diego Icrontian
    edited May 2006
    If you ever get the chance, Leo, visit us just to hang out. We've had ~40-45% of current or past members in the armed forces in some way shape or form. Our current XO was in Desert Storm, our ex-XO and current MSgt. just finished basic, another 1Lt. is a Naval Officer in a F-18 flightwing out of Fort Lauderdale, a PFC just finished basic and was expected to end his leave of absense from the unit only to be asked to continue on to Ranger training. I could go on and on, I'm sure you could find something to talk about with someone. I think we have every major branch accounted for: Navy, Marines, Army, and (Ch)Air Force. We're a great group of guys, and its encouraging to hear that it is appealing to someone that's never heard of it before!
  • SquillSquill Chesterfield, Va
    edited May 2006
    A PC game that I've been getting into lately is Guild Wars. It's an MMORPG without montly fees. The graphics are not the best to date, but the landscapes and level design is amazing. I can't get enough of this game. The expansion just came out too. If anyone is interested in a MMO game w/out the montly fee I would suggest checking out guild wars.
  • V-PV-P State College, PA Member
    edited May 2006
    I love FFVII, I've logged more than 100 hours on my playstation and about 50 hours using an emulator on my laptop. Right now I'm working on doing everything, which can take a while since it's pretty in depth.
    You actually have aworking playstation emulator? What's it called? Oh, and how do I load the games onto my hdd to play them on it....
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited May 2006
    Squill wrote:
    A PC game that I've been getting into lately is Guild Wars. It's an MMORPG without montly fees. The graphics are not the best to date, but the landscapes and level design is amazing. I can't get enough of this game. The expansion just came out too. If anyone is interested in a MMO game w/out the montly fee I would suggest checking out guild wars.

    yes, what he said...except i think the graphics on a good card cranked way up kick arse!

    Guild Wars: Factions

    you can read all about it on its website...but I've been stuck in it hard time... I even missed reading Short-Media forums for 2 days :ninja: playing it so much...

    i also picked up NFS:Most Wanted...gonna try it out um sometime if I ever get away from my assasion..................
  • SquillSquill Chesterfield, Va
    edited May 2006
    fatcat6 wrote:
    yes, what he said...except i think the graphics on a good card cranked way up kick arse!

    Don't get me wrong, I think the graphics are amazing but if you compare it to Everquest 2 it's not as good (But still good).
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited May 2006
    Hey NiGHTS?

    Rock of the Marne.
  • NiGHTSNiGHTS San Diego Icrontian
    edited May 2006
    Cpl. Kenkel [3rd ID]

    Nous Resterons La!
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited May 2006
    ....um?

    Anyway, I used to be part of a virtual army which used Operation Flashpoint for all it's missions and campaigns, the army part being the "Seawolves Armed Forces (SWAF)" where every game you were in you'd have to write up a report at the end and submit it, everyone had ranks, medals depending on what was done and where, honours, even JAG, which was interesting.
  • CycloniteCyclonite Tampa, Florida Icrontian
    edited May 2006
    I just picked up Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter for the XBox 360, and I must say, that's quite an enjoyable game. The sounds and visuals get you pumped up, and it's just a gorgeous game. Granted, playing it on a nice 32" HDTV with a 5.1 surround setup does help, but I really like the game a lot. Definitely a recommendation.
  • MikeybobMikeybob Middle o' Farmer Land
    edited May 2006
    SCAR wrote:
    The Elder Scrolls II - Daggerfall

    The absolute best game I've ever played is Final Fantasy VII. That game got me hooked. I played for 57 hours I think, I felt like crying when Aeris died... And Tifa was hot...

    It's weird going back though. The blocky pineapple arms made me giggle :P

    Since I'm on the topic of games, it's nearly the end of the year and I'm finishing up my coursework. I thought about buying myself a little treat and am kinda stuck between these: -

    GW: Factions. It looks really cool, but atm I'm a bit bored with the original. I was hoping the new installment with new stories, missions and classes might get me back into it.

    NFS: Most Wanted. It's about £20 and I wanna game that looks pretty.

    FFXI. It's an MMO capable of eating up my Summer holiday and it's FF. Hope it's good.

    Any reccomendations?

    [edit]

    IRT to the thread, I bought Oblivion and it's awesome :D. Bit of a spec eater but it's so diverse. I've been playing for hours and hours just doing side quests. I love the fact that there are so many people modding it too. The community is definately a large part of this game.

    CS Source is a good game too. Pretty graphics and good framerate even for mid/low end machines. Everything should take a page from Valve's book :P. Just bear in mind it's not 1.6. I still make that mistake and get my arse handed to me :P. Speaking of HL2 mods, are there any reports on Team Fortress for Source?

    BF2 is a good game. Or atleast sometimes it is. I think it really comes into its own when you play with friends. By yourself on a public gets a bit samey for me. Personally, I'm waiting very impatiently for Quake Wars :D, probably the best MMOFPS
  • NiGHTSNiGHTS San Diego Icrontian
    edited May 2006
    Mikeybob wrote:
    NFS: Most Wanted. It's about £20 and I wanna game that looks pretty.

    Its a great game and all, but it gets old rather quickly. I found myself playing it soley to beat it, rather than enjoying it at the higher up levels. The game's saving grace at the end was a fairly fun cinematic sequence (which could have been used more throughout the game IMO) ...other than that its the same thing over and over again.

    Game runs like this...

    You have a position on a "blacklist" of racers, you want to climb to #1 to get back a car that was unfairly taken from you during a race. To do so, you have to complete races and increase your wanted level through a points system.

    The wanted level stuff is fun at first, and really makes the game worthwhile, the cop AI isn't TOO bad, but after you've made it to the 4th or 3th place on the blacklist you're about ready to get the game over with. The best car in the game IMO is handed to you by the 4th place, a Lambo that can be beefed up to have max handling and acceleration, with nearly full top speed. Makes the game less enjoyable from that point on because you're just going through the motions to get your damn M3 back (the car that was origionally taken from you.)

    The worst part about the whole game is that this Police Sergeant "Cross" is going after you the entire time, but never actually chaces you in his "hardest to outrun" car until the end of the game. Its somewhat of a letdown because the guy's a jackass to you throughout the game.

    My recommendation, take your money elsewhere with a game that's going to be having more replay value, espically for those long summer nights.
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