Russian Pirate Web Site Rivals iTunes
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Source: Associated PressMOSCOW - A Russian Web site that lets visitors download albums for less than $1 is a smash hit with music fans — but not with U.S. trade and music industry officials.
The site is a pirate, they allege, and say Russia’s failure to close it down presents a direct obstacle to the country’s negotiations to join the World Trade Organization.
Russia is already the second-biggest source of pirate music, film and software in the world after China — costing U.S. companies nearly $1.8 billion last year, according to anti-piracy groups. The Web site www.allofmp3.com just adds to the dispute.
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Let's keep the discussion centered on how this might affect the online music industry, not class envy.
I love it I can pick what type of encoding I want and the bit rate before I download it then its like $0.03 per song no dmca and I can get it in ogg vorbis.
The company's are going towards more control, making it harder to copy music, films and programs.
On the other hand there will be people trying to get around the copy protection, so there is an war going on.
Who will win and who will lose ?
Next step for the illegal download sites is to decrypt the information, and that will make it harder for the national
security officials to decipher mails, when people starts using the same technique.
I can see only one solution here, and that is to lower the price for the product, and make it more easy for downloading music and films.
Otherwise the price for the products will go up, cover the extra cost for the protection software and maintaining status que.
Less people will buy an music CD for testing, or buying films.
Here in Sweden the price for CD is 20-25 USD, and that is to high.
It is more then 4 years ago, when I bought my last music CD.
One good thing with getting old, is that you like the music from the time when you were young.
And you you can't remember them all ...
, so with 400 CD in my shelf, I can stay happy for along time.
The rest I get from radio gaga.
And as some of you already know, this happened in the week that past
ThePirateBay.org Raided - Servers Seized
You can read more about this at XS,
TPB is seized and temporarily shut down
I disagree I think price has very little to do with it. I use allofmp3 because theres no drm.
I believe you are using allofmp3, because they are cheap.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality
And who has ever shown true Morality, it's just for the loser, right ?
We can all lose together.
No, well, not exactly, I was actually moving towards the fact that they are hypocrites and actaully have plenty of money and probably arent hurting that bad for it. The price of software is driven by their own greed. And in my mind, to steal something, it must be owned by someone, physically. So stealing a cd from staples would be stealing. Programs are data, data is information, and informaion is free. If you would not like your information shared, you should secure it. Because when someone steals software, are they LOSEING and money?, nope. What they are upset about is that they didnt MAKE any money off of the deal. Because if you think about it, every other company that makes a product, once they make the prototype, they still have to produce a physical product that costs money. So if I steal a bike from walmart, me stealing the bike just cost walmart some ammount of money, if someone downloads photoshop, they did not cause adobe to loose one red cent of revenue, because no physical product had to be produced. What they are mad about is that they didnt MAKE any money. Once software companies have a product, they pay $.15 to have a disc copied and a little for documentation, so basically, once they have the product, it is all profit from there on.
And really, I dont know if they have noticed yet, but priracy has been happening for a very long time, and I dont see it stoping any time soon, especially as long as they want to charge exorbinant ammounts for software, people will continue to pirate, and until they decide to resonably price software, people wont stop. ie: $60 for a game that I might play 2weeks to a month long.
The companies say they are loosing money to piracy, okay, thats all well and good, but they are still showing multi-million dollar profits., sometimes in the billions. So as I've said before, they arent hurting too bad, they are just greedy, two different things.:tongue2:
So you're saying there's no cost to the producer of the software? Coding, testing, marketing, these all cost money to the software producers. How about packaging and distribution channels? Product doesn't make it to the shelf on its own.
yeh, read about that, dont know what they were looking for though, the actual filees arent stored on the servers. Unless they were after IP logs. I guess they handed the stuff back over, yesterday I was at TPB and they said it should be up within a few days.:thumbup
No, I said once the software is made, there is no more cost incured to produce it multiple times.
To declare that the company "Doesn't lose one red cent" is fallacious at best, and thoroughly ignorant at worst. The only reason people feel comfortable using circumlocutious rationalizations when it comes to piracy is that it's not tangible theft. It's not like walking in the door of a Circuit City, stuffing a PS2 game in your pants, and walking out, however that is exactly what you have done. You have robbed the reseller of a potential resale profit, and the distributor from a sale.
Deal with it.
What you said was that it's all profit once it hits the shelves, which is definitely not the case. All those costs incurred have to be paid back somehow. When companies sell software, it takes a long time before they turn a profit.
And there's still a cost to produce it multiple times. They still have to package it and get it to the store.
Good luck!
I would pay for music with no DRM. In fact, I already do: I buy CD's and rip them so that I have a physical backup I can store safely and a lossless digital copy I can burn to mix CD's and play on my computer without wearing out physical media. In the event of catastrophic data loss I can always go back to the CD's and rip another copy.
-drasnor
Tell them I'll be there next Thursday, about noonish.
drasnor
I think it's more annoyance over how it's gone from "making music" to "a quick way to make a massive amount of money by making a bit of crap and then force feeding it to everyone". It's all about the Benjamins.
I'm with you on that. The only solution I know of is to seek out the small and/or independent musicians who aren't party to what Joni Mitchell called "Stoking the star maker machinery".