Bill Gates Stepping Down at Microsoft

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  • Sledgehammer70Sledgehammer70 California Icrontian
    edited June 2006
    CB Droege wrote:
    No, because pickles are part of the Big Mac, that'd be like trying to order the OS without a File manager... But A Web Browser is more like fries... If McD's raised the price of the Big Mac by $1, and included fries, and that was the only way to buy a Big Mac, I would be pissed.

    Just because most people have fries with their Big Mac anyway, is not a reason to include it and charge extra. They should offer a non-fries Big Mac package...

    TBH IE is a huge part of MS. and without it you would not be able to do a ton of things. In all IE is a major part of Windows. Now MS money is dumb but the Game in Vista are pretty damn cool.

    For the main part of your post I think you kind of contradict yourself as IE isn't like pickles as it is needed to run updates and other applications. MS money and the Games are like Pickles as they are not needed... IE is like the bottom bun, things would be a mess without it... but we do have free options like FF, so there is nothing to complain about.
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited June 2006
    It is true that IE is integrated into the OS at this point, but I much preferred the pre-IE File Manager to the current file management system. If MS could find a way to divorce the two again, we would not need to apply IE security patches if we were users of Firefox. As it is, those IE patches are still necessary to Ff users because Microsoft decided to make IE an integral part of XP's kernel. I think that was a good business decision, but a bad decision for the customer.
  • airbornflghtairbornflght Houston, TX Icrontian
    edited June 2006
    yeh, ie was superglued into the os. too much if you ask me. I think it was really a bad idea to roll an internet browser and a file manager into one program. Just look at all the problems it has caused security wise. and lets not get started on active x. hah.

    I would just like to see two button when the install first starts going. "Easy" and "Advanced" if I click advanced, then I can decide what I want installed along with the os. If I click easy, then it just installs normally.

    profs Idea is good too. but then people would [strike]bitch[/strike] complain that they have to buy another program to get their mail, and go on the internet, but if they asked me, I would tell them: "No you dont!"
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited June 2006
    I would just like to see two button when the install first starts going. "Easy" and "Advanced" if I click advanced, then I can decide what I want installed along with the os. If I click easy, then it just installs normally.

    I agree with this - you should be able to select which Windows components to install during the OS install, rather than having to remove them afterward. Items like MSIE should be completely optional. Right now, unchecking it in Windows Components merely removes the icon from your desktop. :rolleyes2

    If I had a choice, I would install the OS without IE, Messenger, Outlook Express, or any accessibility options (particularly sticky keys!). That way, I wouldn't have to remove them later (those that MS allows us to remove, at least).
  • deicistdeicist Manchester, UK
    edited June 2006
    Personally I like IE being included, makes it much easier to download & install firefox....How exactly would you download firefox or anything else on a windows box if IE wasn't there?
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian
    edited June 2006
    You'd just download the file directly from an open ftp server (which you can access via File Manager), or directly from the command line.

    Without IE, the OS would still manage an internet connection, you just wouldn't be able to see html documents until you downloaded something else...
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited June 2006
    What I usually do is fill up a USB drive with critical apps that I want to install before ever connecting a PC with a fresh OS install to the network: programs like the latest Catalyst driver, AV software, and Firefox.
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian
    edited June 2006
    Yes, but that option is for people who already have a computer, and some experience...

    Then again, in our hypothetical situation, people who have no computer experience, should proly just get the IE included version of the OS.
  • airbornflghtairbornflght Houston, TX Icrontian
    edited June 2006
    yeh, like I said, for the people that dont know how to get FF, or dont want to deal with it, they could just click the easy install.
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