extras in my Programs Files

audsnendsaudsnends western Canada
edited April 2007 in Science & Tech
When I click my C drive and click on Programs List, I have all these "things" listed (see image below). I'm pretty sure they're important but I don't believe they belong in my Programs. I've no idea what they're for & whether to be concerned that they are located where they are, nor how I got them there and finally what I should do about them or simply leave them alone.

Appreciate any input.


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  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited March 2007
    "Programs List" - do you mean Program Files?

    Those entries seem to various components of "leadtools", PDF, and other graphics applications. Care to post a screenshot of your running processes?
  • audsnendsaudsnends western Canada
    edited March 2007
    Yes Program Files. Umm running processes? Would be happy to post a screen shot, if I knew what that was and where to find it?
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited March 2007
    1) ctrl+alt+del keys
    2) click on "Processes" tab
    3) expand the window to reveal all
    4) alt+PrtScn keys to take a snapshot of the window
    5) got to MS Paint, "Paint" in Accessories
    6) select Edit, and "Paste" from drop-down menu
    7) save the file as jpeg and post it here
  • audsnendsaudsnends western Canada
    edited March 2007
    Processes.jpg
  • audsnendsaudsnends western Canada
    edited March 2007
    Can you see that ok, I could enlarge it with paint, but it would be HUGE!
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited March 2007
    I think you are OK. Nothing indicated in your Processes window shows undue usage of system resource. I don't know all the programs and applications you've installed on your computer, but it would appear to me that your entries in Program Files are benign, or even necessary for the programs you run. Actually, your processes list is not large.

    I think you are in good shape.

    Ok, now you know how to check processes - what's running on your computer at any given moment. If you don't understand any of those entries, just do an Internet search. If you do a Google search, don't pay much attention to the first one or two links, it's usually a crap site that just wants you to run their stupid scanner.

    You now also know how to do a screenshot! You've learned a lot today.
  • audsnendsaudsnends western Canada
    edited March 2007
    Great, thanks for looking & your input!
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited March 2007
    it would appear to me that your entries in Program Files are benign, or even necessary for the programs you run
    You know, perhaps the reason you have all those files in Program Files, files that seem to be related, is that you accidentally installed a program into the Program Files directly instead of into a sub-folder within Program Files.
  • audsnendsaudsnends western Canada
    edited March 2007
    Yes, I too imagine that's what I did, likely more than one program, but which program for each of those entries belongs to would be like searching for a needle in a haystack I would guess.
  • botheredbothered Manchester UK
    edited March 2007
    Should there be pics in posts 1+5 above? I see none?
  • KentigernKentigern Milton Keynes UK
    edited March 2007
    Snap - ditto
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited March 2007
    Yes, there should be a screenshot. Hmm. My "Quick Reply" window is missing now as well.
  • audsnendsaudsnends western Canada
    edited March 2007
    Oops, that's my fault, I don't like stuff laying around & didn't realize if I removed the images from site where I'm able to obtain the image for posting here that they would disappear from my postings here as well.

    Another lesson learned :D

    Program Files image on my pc :

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    Running Processes on my pc :

    Processes.jpg
  • KentigernKentigern Milton Keynes UK
    edited March 2007
    :wave: Hi audsnends

    Have you recently installed either of the following programs Microsoft Picture It or Microsoft Greetings. :)

    If so, do you still have the cd/dvd that the program came on?
  • audsnendsaudsnends western Canada
    edited March 2007
    Not recently no........years & years ago yes about 5 years ago...but too never knew where or who to ask about all these files in my program folders, so they've been there forever it seems.
  • audsnendsaudsnends western Canada
    edited March 2007
    and yes I still have the disc although I rarely use the program now
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian
    edited March 2007
    If you can figure out which programs are installed there, you can run the uninstaller to remove the files (the uninstaller can find them all easily), then reinstall the program to a more approriate directory. :)
  • KentigernKentigern Milton Keynes UK
    edited March 2007
    :wave: Hi audsnends

    First : Just to confirm
    yes I still have the disc although I rarely use the program now

    Do you still have the registration details, i.e. cd key, if it needed one.

    If the answer is yes, we can proceed to remove the program. Which in turn should remove some if not all of those files from your program listing.

    Second: We need - To open Add or Remove Programs, click Start, click Control Panel, and then double-click Add or Remove Programs.

    A new screen will open - please wait while it populates the list of programs.

    Third: Click on the Add Remove icon
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    Fourth :If you then scroll down to the program Microsoft Picture It or Microsoft Greetings, then
    highlight the program by clicking once on it.

    Should look like this
    addremove.jpg
    Click on image to enlarge
    Fifth: Then click on the remove button. - An additional New small screen appears stating

    --Are you sure you want to remove (program name) from your computer? --

    Click the Yes button, then follow any further instructions.

    Sixth: You may be asked to restart your computer to complete the removal of the program, please do so.

    Seventh: Please let us have a new screenshot of your program listing after restarting your pc.
  • audsnendsaudsnends western Canada
    edited March 2007
    Removed that program, but nothing changed in my Program files, all those extras are still there, as well as the listing for that program...weird. I know these things bury themselves deep inside pc's correct?

    Maybe I'll try removing ALL of the Microsoft Works Suite 2002 as I have the product key and all the program discs. If it does remove those extras files, I may not even reload the Works Suite. I'll have to review everything to see if I use any of the programs in the suite any more, seeing it's so old.
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited March 2007
    You could just cut all of those 'extra' files and store them in a temp folder. Use your computer for a couple months, and if no problem doing all the things you need to do, then delete the temp folder.
  • audsnendsaudsnends western Canada
    edited March 2007
    hmm removing all those programs didn't work neither.

    Well I'll just have to dive back into the haystack!
  • KentigernKentigern Milton Keynes UK
    edited March 2007
    :wave: In your graphic it shows within the list "Install.log" and a "readme.txt",
    if you open these in Notepad do they indicate which program.

    Also I see that you have EyeCandy5Textures is this a legit plugin or .....?
  • audsnendsaudsnends western Canada
    edited April 2007
    Leonardo wrote:
    You could just cut all of those 'extra' files and store them in a temp folder. Use your computer for a couple months, and if no problem doing all the things you need to do, then delete the temp folder.

    Well what difference does it make which "folder" they are in as to whether or not my pc runs properly. I mean if they are just floating around in my program list wouldn't being in temp folder be the same?
  • audsnendsaudsnends western Canada
    edited April 2007
    "EyeCandy5Textures is this a legit plugin or .....?"

    not sure what you mean? It's a program I can use with umm can't remember, but I used it a few times...lol. (I think I used it with my Jasc PSP software.)
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian
    edited April 2007
    Well what difference does it make which "folder" they are in as to whether or not my pc runs properly. I mean if they are just floating around in my program list wouldn't being in temp folder be the same?

    It matters because your system will not be able to find them.

    Here's the thing:

    The 'folder' that that the files are in, are not looked at the same way by the computer... To you it looks like the files are just in a different location on the drive, and that the computer should see them the same wherever they are, but to the computer the 'folder' that the file is in is the 'path' of the file, which is actually part of the file name.

    For example if you move a file from the program files folder to ta temp folder, it just looks like a cahnge in location to you, but the computer sees this name difference:

    C:\Program Files\Stoopid File.exe -> C:\Temp Folder\Stoopid File.exe

    (technically the file names are all stil 8.3 format, but that's not important to the example) Once that name is changed, the OS can't see it as the same file anymore... It might be able to search for it, if it thinks it needs it, but if it does that, it will tell you that it is doing it.


    So, once you move those, you might run into ''C:\Program Files\Stoopid File.exe' not found' errors, and that will let you know which operations were using that file. :)
  • audsnendsaudsnends western Canada
    edited April 2007
    Oh good to know that stuff. So I think what's best for me would be to do one at a time, because if I load them all at the same time into a temp file and if something didn't work I wouldn't know which of those "things" was being effected right? A slow process but best for me.
  • audsnendsaudsnends western Canada
    edited April 2007
    ''C:\Program Files\Stoopid File.exe'

    is that the real name or is that a file for someone like me?
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian
    edited April 2007
    It was a hypothetical file name for the purposes of the example. :)
  • audsnendsaudsnends western Canada
    edited April 2007
    Do you think it might just be better if I reformat my pc? I've never done it in the six years I've had it. I use my pc it extensively and it's running low on ram as well as slower on loading and operating. But have always been too scared to try reformatting as I have so much stuff which I would have to back up. Speaking of backing up I'm not clear how to do that!

    Anyways what's you're thoughts about reformatting to solve this extra stuff.

    Thanks
  • LeonardoLeonardo Wake up and smell the glaciers Eagle River, Alaska Icrontian
    edited April 2007
    If you reinstall Windows, you should only loose what is in the C:\Windows folder. If you reformat, that will overwrite everything on the partition you choose to format. I hear people frequently use the terms "format" and "reinstall" Windows interchangeably. There is a HUGE difference. I want to make sure you understand.
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