Dell M60

Loki047Loki047
edited August 2003 in Hardware
Ive been looking at laptops for a while that would be able to handle everything from playing video games, to AutoCad, and Surfing the Web via WiFi. For a while the sagers seemed to be the way to go, but the battery life among the sagers and the AW51 are great except they have no batteries. So right now Dell seems to be the best option I know they are Pricey but the 3300 im gonna pay versus the 2900 for a sager seems worth it for a lighter laptop with a longer battery. Let me know what you guys think. Heres my setup (if your looking for Sager info www.sagerforums.com and www.pctorque.com )

Pentium® M Processor 1.70GHz 15.4 WUXGA Display
256MB, DDR SDRAM Memory (1 DIMM)
NVIDIA® Quadro FX Go700™ 4XAGP graphics w/128MB DDR
60GB ATA-100 IDE (7200 rpm)
Internal 56K Modem
Internal 8-24-10-24X SWDVD/CDRW Combo Drive
Dell TrueMobile™ 1400 Dual Band WLAN(802.11a/b/g,54 Mbps)]
9-Cell Primary Battery 9CELLP
3Yr Parts + Onsite Labor (Next Business Day)

The ram im eventually going to upgrade to 1 gig (512x2). I dont have the money now and its cheaper from crucual.

Comments

  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited July 2003
    if battery life is an issue, you're going to be better off with the dell. However, the NP8890, which is supposed to be out here in a few weeks, will run 2 of those 7200rpm 8mb Hitachi drives in RAID 0... the Dell can't do that... so the bottom line is this:

    The Sager will kick the Dell's scrawny @ss from here to timbuktu and back in every benchmark available, but the Dell's battery life is going to be much better than the Sager's.
  • Loki047Loki047
    edited August 2003
    How close will the benchmarks be between the M10p and the FX Go700
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited August 2003
    Depends on what you're looking at... the Quadro is a workstation-level card; it's optimized for OpenGL... I'm not even sure it'll run D3D... in workstation level apps, the quadro might be a better choice, however for overall performance, the 9600 Pro Mobility is going to be a better option. Also, the FX5600 Go is significantly slower than the 9600 Pro Mobility, and since the FX5600 = Quadro 700 without some driver optimizations and stuff, the 9600 is a faster card... also, if you haven't seen the detailed specs on the 8890:

    P4-3.2GHz+ on 800MHz fsb w/HT support
    i865 chipset
    Dual-channel DDR 400 (2 DDR400 SODIMMS)
    ATi Radeon 9600 Pro Mobility 128MB
    2 Hard Drives (1 internal, 1 modular) with hardware RAID 0 & 1 capabilities. The drives range from standard 4200rpm drives to 5400rpm and the new 7200rpm drives
    DVD-R/RW & CD-RW combo drive
    16.1" UXGA
    etc.

    So... all things being equal, the FX MIGHT give the 9600 a run for it's money in CAD stuff, but the fact that the 9600 is faster than the FX, and that you're talking 1.7GHz Pentium-M ( = to say a 2.4 P4) versus a Hyperthreaded 3.2C... the Sager should be significantly faster than the Dell. Also, if the only CAD program you run is Autocad, and you buy a quadro, you're insane. My grandfather owns a machine shop; he runs AutoCAD on his desktop a few times a week to look @ prints from clients and stuff... his desktop has a GeForce2 MX400 64MB card in it, and he's never complained about AutoCAD being slow...
  • Loki047Loki047
    edited August 2003
    Geeky are you on sagerforums? i mean i would love the 8890 but the SXGA screen? im not too crazy about it. Also the battery life is abhorrid, do theyh even really count as laptops (and im not biased agasint sagers i actually made my girlfriend buy a sager over a dell)
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited August 2003
    I'm not @ Sagerforums, no... only the 15.7" is SXGA tho- the 16.1" does 1600x1200 (UXGA)

    Oh, as a side note, I won't hold it against ya if you buy teh dell... I'll just use the purchase of a Dell as evidence to call ya a fookin' idiot at every possible opportunity :D:D
  • Loki047Loki047
    edited August 2003
    haha, but the 8890 the new version of the 8887 is coming with SXGA :):) dang fookin' idiot!! heheh
  • Loki047Loki047
    edited August 2003
    wHAT kind of battery life are you getting?
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited August 2003
    Possibly, but I think someone made a typo... scroll down in <a href="http://sagerforums.com/showthread.php3?threadid=5295&highlight=8890">this</a&gt; thread and look @ the 8890's "Display" specs... the update says 16" sxga, but the specs say UXGA, and the 16" LCD on the 8887 is UXGA (and so, in point of fact, is every other 16" laptop LCD I've seen). You may be right, but I'm inclined to think it's UXGA and the guy that updated it simply hit S instead of U...
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited August 2003
    The 16" SXGA LCD runs 1280X1024 and has been getting great feedback from people. They are looking at the UXGA and plan to offer it, but it appears to not be ready with the initial release.

    We do not having pricing yet or we would share it as we do all info.

    Nevermind then. You're right, I, err... misspoke (I'm NEVER wrong ;)) If you can wait, I'd wait for the 16" UXGA to come back...
  • Loki047Loki047
    edited August 2003
    Yeah i know but there are other threads, and its SXGA, sorta disappointing i think but some people are really happy about it.
  • Loki047Loki047
    edited August 2003
    Dont worry, no one else sees this thread so itll be our secret but i will always KNOW!!
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