Awsome Sound Setup?

edited December 2004 in Hardware
-ProMedia Ultra 5.1 $399.99
500watt speaker system with dual 8" subs
-ProMedia DD-5.1 $169.99
Dolby Digital Decoder
-Monster Cable™ Kit 5.1 $69.99
Gold wire cables for the best sound
-Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum $199.99
The best sound card

-Total: $839.96

Im planning to purchase all of that. What do you guys think? The new Ultras that came out last month are better than the regular. :p
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  • stoopidstoopid Albany, NY New
    edited October 2003
    The gold cables are overkill, won't work any better than cheap radio shack cables. That's not my opinion, it's a known industry gimmick.

    Klipsch makes some awesome stuff, so of course the sound quality will be there, but the audigy is not the best card... but it's the best in the current < $200 range ;).

    Why do you need the decoder? Unless you're coming from a source that doesn't already decode (your PC/audigy WILL) it's probably not necessary (but maybe I'm missing a specific-use purpose you have for it).

    In any case, it will sound awesome... you can at least pocket that extra $50 and just get standard cables (and maybe save another $150 on the decoder if it's not really needed).

    Enjoy! :)
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Audigy is Software decoding, thus inferior to hardware decoding.

    Also I should slap you for not having a DTS decoder in there. If you are going to buy all that then at least have a decent sound source.

    NS
  • yaggayagga Havn't you heard? ... New
    edited October 2003
    i agree with these guys, but why do you need the platinum audigy, I got the audigy 2 at best buy for $70 about a month ago
  • edited October 2003
    Ok guys, the reasons for me wanting these items:

    Hardware Decoder:
    Includes RCA, SPDIF etc inputs for me to hook it up to my TV, Stereo, Game consoles.

    Platinum Edition Sound Card:
    The sdif out on the audigy drive, the features of the clearity, etc...

    What do you guys think?

    Also are you serious guys about the Monster Cables being a gimmick?
  • edited October 2003
    C'mon guys reply already! :)
  • stoopidstoopid Albany, NY New
    edited October 2003
    Why would I post that the "gold plated, can make vinyl sound like studio" monster cables are a gimmick if I didn't mean it? They improve the signal quality like 1%. If your ears can hear that then you're welcome to cough up the extra $50.

    All you need is a 1/8" mono male headphone jack to a male RCA jack connector from the back of your stereo to the back of the Audigy (all audigy cards have spdif). I don't believe the decoder has multiple spdif connections (could be wrong)... but in either case, before I went with a full home theater PC setup I used an external Sony component theater system and plugged everything through that and used the one coax from the Sony into my Turtle Beach sound card. Worked like a charm.

    The platnum stuff is also a gimmick, and it's specific use... so I can't see, based on your posts, a need for it.

    The key is the speakers, and you got a great pair selected. Then make sure you have a digital signal (because they're digital speakers) from the PC to the speakers. Now you have a digital surround system, so you can probably dump the stereo at this point as it's redundant (besides, my logitech x560s kick my component stereos arse anyday!). You don't need a component stereo and those 500W PC speakers. You choose. In my setup I have a VCR running into my all in wonder card, and from the VCR inputs I can hook up a camcorder, game box, whatever... eliminated any need for the stereo, which was originally there to handle the signals from multiple sources.
  • edited October 2003
    Well, I thought SDIF out is DIGITAL? Well thats what the hell i want LoL, I want a digital source going to my computer. Ok here is what I want really,

    I want to play music from my computer, stereo, cd player, gaming cosoles, dvd player.

    And how i thought the Digital Source is going to be is, the Dolby Digital Decoder, it has a digital out right? That would go into the speakers. I could plug in my RCA cables, headphone male cables, etc into the Dolby Digital Decoder... Isnt that correct? :confused:
  • stoopidstoopid Albany, NY New
    edited October 2003
    No, the audigy, as well as most sound cards for that matter, have digital outs. Plug everything through/into your PC, use the digital out on the sound card to the speakers. Your PC will do any digital conversion needed.
  • dangeraaron01dangeraaron01 houston
    edited October 2003
    the dd-5.1 decodes dts. i've got one. my ps2 and dvd come through it.

    also about the cables, the klipsch's come with perfectly fine cables as it is. they have a low resistance and are more than adaquate for the job. i've thought about getting that kit too, but didn't want to spend the dough.

    i'd say, get it w/o the kit, set it up, turn it up, and if you think you can get a clearer, richer, shake the house sound than what you've got, then order it. :D
  • edited October 2003
    just a thought about "digital" speakers....the very nature of speakers (repulsion of magnets by WAVEFORMS) means that ALL speakers are analog, regarless of connection type where it counts. just a thought

    about monster cables, advertising gimmicks=crap. i am happy with standard el cheapo cables, sound absolutely fine and very little differnce from highly overpriced cables.
  • edited October 2003
    Sounds good guys but now I have one question in mind instead of spending $800 on this setup my friend said that he can get me a pimp'd out system for $800, like four towers with mids tweets and 12" subs that are like 400 watts each... What do you guys think? I want music that is clear, crisp, rocks my house and the one next to me.
  • stoopidstoopid Albany, NY New
    edited October 2003
    The Klipsch will shake the foundation for less and take less space doing it. You really don't need 4 tower speakers unless you're uncomfortable with the size of your penis. :p

    Remember that each new wave of technology takes a bit to become established, but at this moment we're seeing such a revolution in home audio that home audio manufacturers are scurrying to try and compete (price wise) with these logitech, creative, and klipsch PC systems. They are really THAT good. You won't be disappointed in the PC speakers at all. I may never go back to a component system, there's no need (unless I have a 60,000 sq foot living room, then maybe I'll pay someone to build me a small theater :p ).

    I was getting DTS from my dvds played on my PC, out my turtle beach sound card, into my Sony component system. The audigy, being a newer and even (slightly) more advance card, will be able to that and then some.

    Good point was made about the analog nature of speakers, but I think the concern is more about transporting the signal to the speakers than in the reproduction abilities... not only is it easier to send the signal through a single wire, it also relies less on the quality of the cable because the signal iteself is much more tolerant of distance/resistence and interference issues (at least that's my understanding).
  • edited October 2003
    Ok guys, here is what I have come up to: Either I go with some Kplisch or get these:

    -Midrange $274.99x2=$549.98
    Wharfedale Diamond 8 Series 6-1/2" 3-Way Floor Tower (wired with Monster Cable)
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?j=1&id=1051806267469&skuId=4867772&type=product&productCategoryId=cat03044

    -Sub $179.99
    Entra Sub 10" 150 Watt Powered subwoofer - Black Ash Finish
    http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/detail.asp?dpno=291687&store=macmall&source=mwbfroogle&adcampaign=email,mwbfroogle

    -Reciever/Amp $149.99
    Kenwood Dolby Digital/DTS Home Theater Receiver
    http://www.etronics.com/product.asp?stk_code=kenvr705&svbname=403

    Total=$879.96
  • DocanoDocano Texas
    edited October 2003
    Originally posted by HackingGuru
    Ok guys, here is what I have come up to: Either I go with some Kplisch or get these:

    -Midrange $274.99x2=$549.98
    Wharfedale Diamond 8 Series 6-1/2" 3-Way Floor Tower (wired with Monster Cable)
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?j=1&id=1051806267469&skuId=4867772&type=product&productCategoryId=cat03044
    stk_code=kenvr705&svbname=403[/url]

    Howdy, I don't know much about audio, but I do know oh my God I hate Best Buy. The only things I consider buying (though I never do) from Best Buy are DVDs and the occasional Snickers candy bar.
  • edited October 2003
    the only reason you'd need those cables is if you were doing studio grade recording...which i assume you're not. the gold plating and all the insulation does help reduce noise and stuff..and it will make a difference, but not one you can hear if all you're doin is listenin to music or watchin movies etc. and as any musician/producer will tell you...analog pwns digital anyday..heheh
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Why are these people saying digital isn't as good as analog???
    Because digital is so______________________________________ Get the picture?;) Analog just has so much richness and texture is why the pros prefer it. (Ibeleive they refer to it as Ambience)

    A receiver for $149 will only get ya what your paying for. If you are truely serious then start looking at home equipment that measures the wattage per channel in RMS and has distortion rates lower than say .008%@ full power with 20-20K range.
  • edited October 2003
    Well, guys help me out, suggestions etc. Im spending $900 on a audio setup :confused:
  • edited October 2003
    Sorry i didnt see the second page, well do you guys have any suggetsions on what system to buy? Are the speakers good? SHould i just shut my self up and get the Pro Media 5.1 Ultra? What im looking for here is QUality in audio and also bass that will literally rock the house.
  • edited October 2003
    Ok ingore all the crap i was talking about, here is the system I am ordering:

    My new SETUP!

    Two MTX 3 Way (6.5" Mids 12" Subs) 500watt Towers
    Two Amps
    1 Preamp

    http://www.digitalstormonline.com/spaeker.jpg

    Total=$850

    What does this equal too?

    DISTURBANCE OF THE PEACE!!
    :-D
  • edited October 2003
    Reply guys
  • dangeraaron01dangeraaron01 houston
    edited October 2003
    :( go klipsch
    as for analog and digital speakers, all are analog. what is meant by digital speakers is that they have the processor within the speaker system, w/ the amp and whatnot. it's kind of a marketing thing i think.
    What im looking for here is QUality in audio and also bass that will literally rock the house.
    ask anyone who has a set of pro media's, and their parents, and their neighbors, about how good they are. then go look in the home theater magazines and see how many times you see the MTX name and how many times you see the klipsch name. that should answer your question.
  • edited October 2003
    Dude what I dont get is, how the heck can a klipsch 500watt beat this 1000watt setup. The klipsch have dual 8" subs, this is dual 12" subs. Is the promedia still going to hit that damn hard? Guys with Promedia's help!
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Why don't you try going and listening to some different speakers? I never buy speakers without hearing them just like buying shoes I don't try on first. Take a CD or 2 that will cover the range of what you want to listen to and check it out. As I stated earlier, I never buy amps that aren't rated in RMS instead of the cheap total output. Then you need to make sure it all matches. So in reality you may just be better off with the Klipsch system but I don't really think you will do anything to the house with them. I am pushing 500W RMS per channel and make pieces of drywall fall from the ceiling when I want to. The nice thing is if I go outside is still sounds good with all the windows and doors closed. :D
  • AcidicDreamsAcidicDreams Oregon
    edited October 2003
    Ok here's the deal guru..... But JUST the Klipsch speakers and the decorder and going to make you plenty happy, trust me. The will pound VERY well. Next, if you can buy it from best buy it isn't the best (except some PC hardware where the mainstream brands are the best). If you want to have the BEST home system your talking 30,000 per component or speaker pair, also to get better than retail (aka ACTUALLY BAD ARSE STUFF) you have to go to a real audio shop and buy stuff like denon and ONYX (still consumer grade stuff but truly high end consumer gear). As far as a frankenstein best buy system vs the klipsch's save the money, buy the klipsch, use the wires it comes with and use the hookup settings these guys suggested... Maybe the the paltinum Audigy with the livedrive thingy for ease of hooking up seperate sources, but then your stuck with wires hanging in the front of your computer which may be anoying...

    ohh and power isn't the end all of sound, setup, optimization etc makes a huge difference.. ie, in car audio a $400 sub in the wrong box with 1000W of power will be quiter/sound worse than a truly matched $150 sub with the proper box and appropriate amount of power.. probably around 300W

    PS I like the pick under your name... that ckicks got a nice ass
  • AcidicDreamsAcidicDreams Oregon
    edited October 2003
    Also bigger does not necesarily mean louder... another car audio analogy, a 180db monster stereo using like 20 subs and 20,000W of power tops out in the 180db range, the loudest anyone has made it to (it may be in the low 190's now) but a well installed system with 1 sub and 1000-1500 watts can make it up to around 150db... in either case both will damage your hearing and disturb the peace just fine. So if you go out and spend all this money on a REAL home audio system you'll find yourself listening to it at less than half volume most of the time or having hearing loss which isn't cool (trust me I know, I'm 21 and I've seen 70yr olds with better hearing than me because of my car stereo in my '71 Ford truck
  • stoopidstoopid Albany, NY New
    edited October 2003
    In case you lost your thread (it was 10 down from the top :rolleyes: ) here ya go hacking...
  • NeoFXNeoFX Utah, US of A
    edited October 2003
    My primary setup is enough for me...

    I have a set of Klipsch Promedia 2.1s and a SantaCruz s-card. I have never turned this things up past half because my mom downstairs can hear them before they are at half...

    As secondary I have a Philips 220W stereo hooked up along with a 7.1 JBL home theater system. Total when using all I push near 1000Watts.. But like I said im fine with the 200W that my Klipsch Promedia speakers push out.
  • edited October 2003
    KLIPSCH SB-2 Midrange $239.00 S&H $27.54 $266.54

    Energy S10.2 Subwoofer $379.00 S&H $49.18 $428.18

    Pioneer VSX-D812K Receiver $217.88 S&H $30.95 $248.83

    Monster Cable 6ft MB300 Subwoofer Interconnect $29.95 S&H $0 $29.95

    Monster XP Clear Jacket 30' with 4 pairs $18.29 S&H $5.89 $24.18

    MONSTER CABLE BLSS 2M Fiber Optic Audio Cable $17.71 S&H $8.00 $25.71

    Chaintech 6 Channel Sound Card Model AV515M $21.00 S&H $0 $21.00

    GRAND TOTAL: (TAX+S&H) = $1,044.39

    Thats my final system! I listend to it at Good Guys, and ohh damn does everything in the store RATTLe. We tested many subs and speakers and came to this deal. What do you think guys?
  • edited October 2003
    C'mon guys tell me what you think?
  • AcidicDreamsAcidicDreams Oregon
    edited October 2003
    sounds good... but look for a better reciever... like denon or onyx... but you will REALLY be just fine with just the klipsch system.... really
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