Athlon XP 2000+ overclock?
I'm interested in overclocking my AMD Athlon XP 2000+ (1.67 Ghz). How should I start about it? Increasing it's value by a few mhz every boot and see how it works? If I could squeeze it up to 2Ghz that would be great, even better with my current fan that came with the processor.
Will it be worth it? Will I see a decent improvement, should I try overclocking my graphics card maybe too? (Or should I first buy a 512 ddram chip because currently I have 256 dd and it sucks..)
Give me some suggestions guys.
Will it be worth it? Will I see a decent improvement, should I try overclocking my graphics card maybe too? (Or should I first buy a 512 ddram chip because currently I have 256 dd and it sucks..)
Give me some suggestions guys.
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first off, we need a list of your hardware
cpu model, motherboard, ram, video etc..
AMD Athlon XP 2000+ (1.67ghz)
GeForce 4 TI4200 (ABIT)
256 DDRAM (333mhz)
mobo: MSI KT3 Ultra 2 Series (VIA KT333 Chipset Based) MS-6380E v1.X
Using 2 HD's, 20gig and 40gig (both 7200 rpm)
Chieftec Dragon Medium case (my preciousss..)
I built this computer myself, or rather rebuilt, before it was a different motherboard with a slower processor and ram. I'm a newb when it comes to overclocking.
And.. just read the article by Karatekid, great one. Now I'm all worried about buying new *good* ram. Since my current is a noname one. Maybe a new heatsink also LOL.
Ya think a good brand ddram of 512mb will work out with a noname 256 to do 768 without much performance decrease?
The XP2000 isn't an overclocking chip ( well compared to the 2100 and the 1600) I'm assuming it's a Tbred B and not an A will make it a more stubborn chip to oc. Also in order to have a successful oc you'll need the following:
1) Good cooling
2) A mobo with oc features in bios
3) A good power source(Psu)
4) Quality ram ( suggested 2x256mb sticks)
5) Plenty of patience
With the xp2000 you'll need to unlock it ( close the bridges) in order to have access to the lower multiplyers therefore being able to get a higher FSB which is the key to overclocking.
The FAQ stoopid put together has a wealth of great info, but be advised not all machines can overclock and when you do overclock you can and will fry something. I can attest to that and stoopid can vouch for it too, lol .
Good luck and keep us posted!
Mobo has the right oc features.
My psu is a 350W Chieftec, and chieftec has an opinion of making good quality psu's.
Quality ram - now this is the one I'm having problems with, tell me, how come you suggest 2x256 instead of a single 512+256? (what is twinmos btw?). I know for sure I will be buying a new ram chip because my *noname* 256 deserves a flush down the toilet. What kind of ram do you think I should buy? the current 256ddram chipset I have, should I keep it and add it to the ram I will buy, or just buy good quality ram and throw away (sell) this one?
Corsair XMS Platinum series
http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/xms.html
Twinmos:
http://www.twinmos.com/dram/dram_p_dt_dualchannel_ddr400.htm
OCZ:http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/
Buffalo
Kingston HyperX
Mushkin
All can be found here: http://www.newegg.com/app/manufactory.asp?catalog=147&DEPA=1
I'd stay away from GEIL. GEIL and AMD don't play well togther.
Uh, go drink some coffee dude!
2100 and the 1700... (if referring to "B" stepping cpus, there was never a 1600 B)...
or a 2000 "B" stepping released in the states (heard of some 1800 and 2000 in Europe/Asia, but only the 2100 and 1700 in the US). The 2000+ you have is likely an older Palomino core, which will reach its max at 1.7-1.8ghz
Um......going for my..forgot which # cup..of coffee now
And yes you're right, there was never a 1600 B. I was just referring to the 2000 compared to the other 2 as overclocking potential :o
Yeah, just got up too. Guess i'm losing my touch eh? lmao !!;)
Ok, my motherboard is:
MSI KT3 Ultra 2 Series (VIA KT333 Chipset Based) MS-6380E v1.X
From the mobo manual:
CPU specs, supports up to 1.8GHz (Athlon XP 2200+).
Chipset via kt333, fsb @ 200/266 MHz
Supports AGP 2.0 1x/2x/4x
So does that mean the max FSB of the processor is 266 MHz? And that if my ram MHz is above 266 (333 like now), I am actually losing those 67 MHz??
On the motherboards CD there is a program called FuzzyLogic4 attached, which enables you to oc from windows. Installing it now.
It also shows that my low cpu load temperature is 50-51 celsius, which is really bad I'm guessing. The current thermal paste between the proc and heatsink looks like a gummy sticker from what I remember. I will try to go out and search for a Zalman heat/fan near me in a shop.
Attaching a pic of FL4.
it will help with your temps.
then you can start OCing.
I cuncur, You can also use atric silver ceramique or what's that other stuff that cam out? Shin itsu?
I just visited a local shop, and they have CoolerMasters, I will get this one tomorrow (http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=english&Language_s=2&url_place=product&p_serial=CP5-8JDIF-0L&other_title=+CP5-8JDIF-0L+CPU%20Cooler). It has lower RPM but it is wide and big so I hope that will make up for it. On the bottom it has a copper plating circle, and in the middle of it there is a white square made of some material <- whats that called? (???).
We refer to them as "copper slugs" and the white pad is a "thermal pad" (which stink). The copper translates the heat faster to the aluminum (which dissipates heat better, is lighter, and cheaper).
I used a decent, all copper heatsink recently made by coolermaster, but it was a rare find as most of their stuff, sadly, stinks. I'm with citrixmeta, get a thermalright if at all possible.
I have the same mobo and I HAD the very same CPU. I overclocked my system without unlocking the multiplier to 1.875Ghz (150Mhz FSB X 12.5 the multiplier) and that was tweaked and unstable.
I have decent RAM and a decent heatsink. If you want to go farther you will need to spend some bucks and follow what these guys are saying! If you want to overclock your system thats killer go for it, but the Fuzzy Logic program SUCKS. Do is SLOWLY from the bios.
You can also flash the Bios and go up to a XP3000+ Barton core, if that is what you want. Check it out here....MSI.com
Keep us posted on what happens!
WTF at micro center they had like 50 2000+ xp cpu's, i got one and this was like 7 months ago (AIUHB)
That was an exception rather than the rule, there weren't many 2000+ made let alone distributed, and most were through the european channels (perhaps that's where microcenter got theirs...).
How did it clock? I heard these were basically the same clockers as the 2100's (and it sounds like the same AIUHB stepping).
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=2420304
Anyway,
I'll try to dig up a pic of 1600+ B for all you all.
Other than that, I have selected my course of action:
1. Buy 512 DDRAM Kingston HyperX
2. Buy a good cpu fan, probably now a thermaltake lol.
Once I get on with those points, I'll post to update. Thanks guys.
Right after boot up to desktop: 45 C
Idle after 2-3 hours: 46 C
100% BUSY with Folding@Home after 2-3 hours: 54 C
I will update once I use the Arctic Silver 5 (or whichever I get my hands on in the future) and a new radiator/fan (I'm not sure yet what I will buy).